Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

Pitch n Putt wrote: »

Most of the sheeple will follow Leo and Dr Tony’s advice indefinitely all the while forgetting what’s going to be landed on them to foot the bill when the time comes.

Leo ,Simon and The good doctor will be long gone into the sunset before this bill will be repayed and maybe even before it arrives.

It’s pretty strange to be following blindly advice from these people when all over the world countries are getting back on their feet but we had to change a plan incase too many might turn up at an homestore.

They’ve done nothing but tried to control and trick people to buy into their opinions by creating a fear in people.

We need help again in Ireland with this and we need it quickly.

Same when the banking crisis happened

We were told we’ve got this in hand nothing to see here but the Troika has to come in and assist our incompetent leaders.

Your entitled to your opinion as is everyone else but the tides turning I feel and real questions need to be asked about where we’re going quickly.

For me the most worrying part is that there are nobody in this country to ask questions. There is no opposition and there is no free press. I see very bleak future for the country.

Nermal wrote: »

It would make me so happy if there was some way to ensure the #stayathome hivemind could be made to bear all the future tax increases, service cuts, redundancies and misery that will result from our policies.

https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1261353327113244675

This 100%.

BBCs and CNNs are more concerned with reporting "possibly linked with covid" headlines.

I know good news doesnt sell well but this is just disgraceful and I personally have stopped going to BBCs, every day its "Deaths in Italy could be higher expert warns" or "German cases may be 10 times higher report warns", pure rubbish.

All US media cant stop reporting NYC, NY is 1 state out of 50. Perspective is lost completely.

Good news from Italy & Germany.

"ITALY TO REOPEN BORDERS IN JUNE

Italy is set to open its borders to foreigners and reinstate free travel within the country on June 3.

Rome today approved a decree that will allow travelers back into the country and scrap an obligation for them to self-isolate for two weeks.

The country is heavily dependent on income generated by tourism, which accounts for about 13 percent of its GDP."

"GERMANY TO END QUARANTINE OBLIGATION FOR ARRIVALS FROM UK, EU, SCHENGEN

The German federal government and state governments have agreed to phase out a rule according to which people arriving from any given country have to quarantine themselves for two weeks.

“For travelers from the EU, the Schengen area, Great Britain and Northern Ireland, there will only be a quarantine recommendation, if they enter the country from an area with high infection rates.”

Seems like holiday season is going ahead. Thankfully. Now lets hope for change of stance from our govt

KindOfIrish wrote: »

For me the most worrying part is that there are nobody in this country to ask questions. There is no opposition and there is no free press. I see very bleak future for the country.

Would ya go away and ****e, no free press. We live in the very essence of an open and free democracy. Pack your bags and go off to China, the Middle East or North Korea if you want an idea as to what living without a free press is actually like.

Heckler wrote: »

Not allowed ? Just go. Go see them. I'm doing it. The lockdown is too restrictive. Yeah yeah I'm killing all the grannies.

Yeah yeah.....you’re an absolute selfish c@nt

Charlie,

What would you like to see happen? What are your thoughts?

[Deleted User] wrote: »

if things don't improve here soon I'm going to the UK to stay with either my sister or my daughter, no restrictions on where you can go there, no bloody 5km!! And at least I would finally see some family. I also have family in Donegal and Westmeath but there is more chance of seeing people in the UK than here!!

So you are going to a country with no testing outside the hospitals and no idea on how bad it is?

Sounds smart. Ireland will have more freedom than the uk as we are managing things

growleaves wrote: »

Charlie,

What would you like to see happen? What are your thoughts?

Would like to see people stop being weak minded selfish pr1cks.

A difficult task admittedly wading through the ****e posted in this thread.

I'm starting to think that Leo is getting a bit too fond of being "the man" recently. He seems to have forgotten that he's leading an outgoing Government whose main achievements are having made fundamental issues worse in the midst of a recovery , and rehabilitated the opposition in the process.

More worrying is the almost complete silence from those other parties who seem quite happy to let him continue on as long as he wants - not exactly inspiring for the next Government (whatever the final shape) and how policy decisions will be made. They seem quite happy to sit back now and point fingers later, but no prizes for guessing who'll really pay for it of course.

The other, far more nasty element is how this has exposed the true colours of many people.
Curtain twitching and begrudgery has always been a national sport, but neighbours watching and reporting on the behaviour of others, and attacking people online for not following the recommendations without question (side point on how worrying it is that many seem to have lost or are unwilling to analyse the situation for themselves), and I think we're going to be left with a very ugly aftermath in many communities - in much the same way as such people bothered themselves about what their neighbours had in the Good Times, to what they were getting/getting away with in the Bad.

We are going to have a lot of problems long after the medical aspects have been addressed.

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Not being hostile. Just calling you out on things

Such as, a quote from the article:

"The Minister for Children and Youth Affairs, Katherine Zappone, said the scheme had been scrapped as only six childcare providers had signed up to be part of the service."

And then lists "concern for virus transmission" which, in my opinion, is the biggest reason among the list . Hence my first post. Which is the same post you quoted me.

All this thanking the HSE / frontline (good job, clap clap clap) dare I say is the quite opposite than reality.

Disagree if you want.

There was a list of concerns raised, insurance, safety, working hours regulations, virus transmission. Considering the impact insurance has already had on the childcare sector I'd suggest that was a major factor. The scheme doesn't appear to have factored in the responsibilities and requirements identified in the government's own "Return to Work Safely Protocol" .

While the idea was good, it wasn't sufficiently developed into a workable scheme.

In the Beginning was the plan.
And then came the assumptions.
And the assumptions were without form.
And the plan was completely without substance.
And the darkness was upon the face of the workers.
And they spoke among themselves saying:
“It is a crock of ****, and it stinketh.”

And the workers went unto their supervisors, and sayeth:
“It is a pail of dung, and none can abide the odor thereof.”

And the supervisors went unto their managers and sayeth unto them,
“It is a container of excrement, and it is very strong, such that none can abide it.”

And the managers went unto the directors and sayeth,
“It is a vessel of fertilizer, and none can abide its strength.”

And the directors spoke amongst themselves, saying one to another:
“It contains that which aids plant growth, and is very strong.”

And the directors went unto the vice presidents and sayeth to them,
“It promotes growth, and is very powerful.”

And the vice presidents went unto the president, and sayeth unto him,
“This new plan will actively promote growth and efficiency of this company, and certain areas in particular.”

And the president looked upon the plan, and saw that it was good.
And the plan became policy.
And this is how **** happens.

avilaloca97 wrote: »

Does anybody know whats the story with learner permits, was due to sit my test in april obviously was cancelled, will learner permits be granted an extension on their license?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishmirror.ie/lifestyle/motoring/coronavirus-ireland-driving-test-license-22015687.amp

It should be extended by four months afaik