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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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  • #3122
    ek motor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    JoeA3 wrote: »
    It really doesn’t require explanation.

    Indulge me


  • #3123
    uli84
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭uli84


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    I’m immunocompromised but hubs and I have made the decision that when the general public begins to relax restrictions, we’re going to as well. I can’t live like that, watching everyone else move on with their lives whilst I hide away. I already am in a lonely place as being terminally ill is something you can only understand if you are in that position. It would be excruciating to watch everyone get on with so. So I’m going to take my chances. Take all the known precautions and get on with it.

    It’s for my husband too. If it would be hard for me, imagine how hard it would be for a fully healthy young man to have to cocoon whilst the world gets back to normal. I cannot do that to him.

    I’m totally with you, I have long term illness and would take a risk to go back to normal life as I’m aware that not many more years could be ahead of me...


  • #3124
    kenmc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,283 ✭✭✭kenmc


    JoeA3 wrote: »
    It really doesn’t require explanation.

    Translation:erm just because, that's why.


  • #3125
    CruelSummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Hearing Maximum Media has gone bust...owns joe and her.ie.


  • #3126
    JoeA3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,550 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    ek motor wrote: »
    Indulge me

    I don’t work in the medical sector.

    Neither am I a hypochondriac, a neck-beard with nothing better to do than worry or a doomsday’er.


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  • #3127
    ek motor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    JoeA3 wrote: »
    I don’t work in the medical sector.

    Neither am I a hypochondriac, a neck-beard with nothing better to do than worry or a doomsday’er.

    Do you ever question why its being recommended ?


  • #3128
    Ginger n Lemon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    Hearing Maximum Media has gone bust...owns joe and her.ie.

    Wait for the save the 70 year old brigade, they ll tell you how that business had high rent and was gonna go bust anyways.

    Or, even better, its a multinational serving foreign countries so their job losses dont count. :mad:


  • #3129
    The_Brood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    Ireland essentially is in a double lockdown because of the extremely delayed online deliveries, since even in normal circumstances most things people need are not available locally.

    You can't travel outside of Ireland, you can't ravel much in Ireland, you can't get things you need locally - this is true even when things were open, and now you can't get things online either.


  • #3130
    Tiger Roll
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 212 ✭✭Tiger Roll


    Just gotten an email from Argos to say they are open on monday, high street and retail parks. No shopping centre stores opening


  • #3131
    JoeA3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,550 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    ek motor wrote: »
    Do you ever question why its being recommended ?

    By whom? Our dithering government can't even make their minds up on the subject.

    Any other questions?!


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  • #3132
    Ginger n Lemon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    ek motor wrote: »
    Do you ever question why its being recommended ?

    Not recommended in Denmark. I trust Danes more than Leo & Co who cant even type out their 5 phase plan correctly.

    "Henning Bundgaard, Professor in Cardiology at Copenhagen University, who is conducting a trial on the efficacy of face masks, told The Local that he believed Denmark was right to exercise caution.

    "No one has any documentation that face masks outside hospitals work at all," he said. "And I think it is rational to provide this documentation before we demand that people need to wear masks out in the open." "


  • #3133
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,015 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    Hearing Maximum Media has gone bust...owns joe and her.ie.

    The clickbait group that had to use click farms to make up for the shìte bait that didn't get clicks.


    But it'll be a bastion of journalism now!


  • #3134
    boring accountant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 335 ✭✭boring accountant


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    Hearing Maximum Media has gone bust...owns joe and her.ie.

    It’s in examinership so not bust per se. It will likely be restructured and sold off to a larger conglomerate with the loss of practically all of the jobs in Ireland. It also has little to do with Covid and more to do with the shoddy management.


  • #3135
    Lundstram
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Lundstram


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    Hearing Maximum Media has gone bust...owns joe and her.ie.
    No loss to society.


  • #3136
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    To some of your surprise, I am neither in government or on NPHET, but I reckon the homeware thing is to stop a royal rumble in and around Ikea on Monday. It's not just a store, but a day out for many people.


  • #3137
    ek motor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    JoeA3 wrote: »
    By whom? Our dithering government can't even make their minds up on the subject.

    Any other questions?!

    'Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has said people should use face coverings when using busy public transport or in an enclosed indoor public area, such as retail, from Monday, as part of Phase One of the easing of Covid-19 restrictions.'

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0514/1138513-coronavirus-restrictions/

    Back to the original question, do you ever wonder why they might recommend them ?


  • #3138
    MrDavid1976
    Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭MrDavid1976


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    Hearing Maximum Media has gone bust...owns joe and her.ie.

    Unfortunately, there are many more just about to go. Unfortunately, the media is not holding the Govt. to account. Hopefully, there will be a storm against this ov er the weekend which will make them think - they were very smug today.


  • #3139
    Ginger n Lemon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    MrDavid1976 wrote: »
    Unfortunately, there are many more just about to go. Unfortunately, the media is not holding the Govt. to account. Hopefully, there will be a storm against this ov er the weekend which will make them think - they were very smug today.

    Very smug. Leo was talking as if he was ALLOWING people to get on with their lives. And almost felt like we should be thanking him.

    Long gone are the Roman times when elected officials served the public and not the other way around. Leo should really get checked out, the whole Tony & Medical advice is getting to his head.


  • #3140
    ek motor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    Not recommended in Denmark. I trust Danes more than Leo & Co who cant even type out their 5 phase plan correctly.

    "Henning Bundgaard, Professor in Cardiology at Copenhagen University, who is conducting a trial on the efficacy of face masks, told The Local that he believed Denmark was right to exercise caution.

    "No one has any documentation that face masks outside hospitals work at all," he said. "And I think it is rational to provide this documentation before we demand that people need to wear masks out in the open." "

    Sure but if we're picking out individual countries Slovenia made them freely available to all in April -

    https://www.themayor.eu/en/slovenian-municipalities-guarantee-free-protective-masks-for-locals


    Today it called an official end to its Coronavirus epidemic

    https://www.euractiv.com/section/coronavirus/news/slovenia-calls-an-official-end-to-its-coronavirus-epidemic/


  • #3141
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,015 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    was gonna go bust anyways.

    It actually was :pac:


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  • #3142
    MrDavid1976
    Closed Accounts Posts: 305 ✭✭MrDavid1976


    From Monday, a small number of shops and retail outlets can re-open but not homeware stores and a group of four people can meet outdoors, maintaining social distancing.

    Up to four people who do not live in the same household will be allowed to meet up outdoors, as long as they maintain a two-metre distance.

    Dr Holohan confirmed that such a meeting could take place in a garden.

    But he warned against people having barbecues "and then someone needs to go into the house to use the toilet and this is definitely not in the public health advice guidelines".

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0515/1138712-covid-update-ireland/

    If anyone thinks we are now living in a nanny state, then they should have no doubts about this now. We are not even trusted to go to the toilet.


  • #3143
    Ginger n Lemon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    pjohnson wrote: »
    It actually was :pac:

    My friend, have any jobs been lost due to covid in this country?

    Paschal donohue must be talking nonsense when he predicts extra 300,000 unemployed. All of their jobs were gonna go anyways too?


  • #3144
    JoeA3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,550 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    ek motor wrote: »
    'Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has said people should use face coverings when using busy public transport or in an enclosed indoor public area, such as retail, from Monday, as part of Phase One of the easing of Covid-19 restrictions.'

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0514/1138513-coronavirus-restrictions/

    Back to the original question, do you ever wonder why they might recommend them ?

    No. What Leo Varadkar has to say on the subject holds little weight. Have you a quote from the WHO on their recommendations?

    As far as I am concerned, they are appropriate for medical professionals, to be used by people who are actually trained to use them properly in a clean / sterile environment. Am I going to be faffing around with one going into a supermarket, and then pawing it with my hands taking it on/off or having it hanging around my neck, like I've seen multiple space cadets doing the last few weeks? No way. I also happen to live outside the pale, so I won't be on a Luas / Dart any time soon.


  • #3145
    Ginger n Lemon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    Zooming in on Leo's speech when talking about phase 2 "nothing is guaranteed, and only thing guaranteed is the inevitable spread of the virus if we dont push it back everyday"

    What is he talking about? There are house parties going on outside of my place right now, fkers started early. Leo its time to wake up and smell the coffee.


  • #3146
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,015 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    My friend, have any jobs been lost due to covid in this country?

    Paschal donohue must be talking nonsense when he predicts extra 300,000 unemployed. All of their jobs were gonna go anyways too?

    My friend do you think there werent many companies already in deep shíte regardless of Covid?

    If anything Covid should boost an online clickbait based company :pac:



    The notion that all business was booming pre-Covid is bizarre.


  • #3147
    Ginger n Lemon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    pjohnson wrote: »
    My friend do you think there werent many companies already in deep shíte regardless of Covid?

    If anything Covid should boost an online clickbait based company :pac:

    I dont think they were frankly. Our GDP has been growing 6 - 10% per year for the last 5 years. Do you think that was happening cus we had barely alive businesses surviving?

    So, any jobs lost to covid or just high rent? You have to respond like.


  • #3148
    NewRed2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 999 ✭✭✭NewRed2


    Good to see horse racing getting a bit of priority. In these dark times you need to see some focus on the important parts of society and in Ireland it seems horse racing is one of them.
    Other businesses around the nation fighting for their lives and many about to close but yeah horse racing is a priority.


  • #3149
    celt262
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,719 ✭✭✭celt262


    JoeA3 wrote: »
    No. What Leo Varadkar has to say on the subject holds little weight. Have you a quote from the WHO on their recommendations?

    As far as I am concerned, they are appropriate for medical professionals, to be used by people who are actually trained to use them properly in a clean / sterile environment. Am I going to be faffing around with one going into a supermarket, and then pawing it with my hands taking it on/off or having it hanging around my neck, like I've seen multiple space cadets doing the last few weeks? No way. I also happen to live outside the pale, so I won't be on a Luas / Dart any time soon.

    I have seen two people this weeks with face masks pulled down below there nose.


  • #3150
    ek motor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    JoeA3 wrote: »
    No. What Leo Varadkar has to say on the subject holds little weight. Have you a quote from the WHO on their recommendations?

    As far as I am concerned, they are appropriate for medical professionals, to be used by people who are actually trained to use them properly in a clean / sterile environment. Am I going to be faffing around with one going into a supermarket, and then pawing it with my hands taking it on/off or having it hanging around my neck, like I've seen multiple space cadets doing the last few weeks? No way. I also happen to live outside the pale, so I won't be on a Luas / Dart any time soon.

    Faffing about ? Its incredibly straight forward to put on and remove a mask. Simply wash your hands before putting it and before removing it.


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  • #3151
    Colibri
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 654 ✭✭✭Colibri


    Asked about Denmark now, how they've not had an increase in cases.

    Tony said he'll look at those EU countries to get a better understanding.. ??


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