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FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 student2019


    Would you be fine studying for the FE1s with just the manuals and without doing classes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭lawgrad15


    Would you be fine studying for the FE1s with just the manuals and without doing classes?

    Very much so. Just make sure to get the exam papers and see if you can answer as many questions as you can. When I say answer, I don't mean writing out a few pages on each question, but more so whether you would be fit to do it in an exam. Get a grid also as you might find some topics are more popular than others with examiners so it might be worth looking at those areas in more detail. Don't try and omit large areas of the subjects - the best thing is to study broadly. Good luck :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 mmullen


    Hi, just wondered if anybody might have some advice on this, if you have had a similar experience. I have been offered a tc (first interview, first application) and haven’t yet applied to any other firms. I want to accept but also would like to apply to other firms as I am not 100% that this firm is where I would like to train. Has anybody been in a similar situation? How long do you usually have to decide whether or not to accept a tc? Is it a massive no no to accept and then apply elsewhere? Thank you in advance :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭Aoibhin511


    mmullen wrote: »
    Hi, just wondered if anybody might have some advice on this, if you have had a similar experience. I have been offered a tc (first interview, first application) and haven’t yet applied to any other firms. I want to accept but also would like to apply to other firms as I am not 100% that this firm is where I would like to train. Has anybody been in a similar situation? How long do you usually have to decide whether or not to accept a tc? Is it a massive no no to accept and then apply elsewhere? Thank you in advance :)

    Accept it, you can always tell them your plans have changed later, its not legally binding


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 mmullen


    Aoibhin511 wrote: »
    Accept it, you can always tell them your plans have changed later, its not legally binding

    Thanks so much :) common sense telling me this but worried I would be blacklisted hah


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭mydogwentroof


    Would you be fine studying for the FE1s with just the manuals and without doing classes?

    Yeah, but be smart in your study!!

    You can very easily focus on the completely wrong thing, and miss the whole point of a topic, if you aimlessly learn by heart from a manual!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭LawBoy2018


    For tort..

    Is there any action in tort for a breach of privacy rights re defamation? Also, is the Kehoe v RTE case in the newer manuals? Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭Lovestolisten


    Would you be fine studying for the FE1s with just the manuals and without doing classes?

    I have passed 5 so far over the past 2 years with manuals and a few books from library, nutshells ect..
    I work full time and in no hurry.

    If you need them all quick, classes and prep course 100% defiantly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭lawgrad15


    LawBoy2018 wrote: »
    For tort..

    Is there any action in tort for a breach of privacy rights re defamation? Also, is the Kehoe v RTE case in the newer manuals? Thanks

    Interesting breakdown of damages listed here at the bottom of the page - https://www.algoodbody.com/insights-publications/court-of-appeal-upholds-finding-of-defamation-makes-declaration-of-breach-o
    Note damages for defamation and breach of privacy.

    Note as well the comments made by the COA judge on the trial judge's comments re defamation/privacy. It might be worth having a look at the COA judgment in its entirety.

    Re Kehoe: cannot recall coming across that case. Googled it and seems a useful one for concurrent wrongdoers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Aoaoaoao2019


    When will everyone begin studying for the potential Tort/Eu rescheduling? Reckon we’ll get enough notice to start when it’s announced?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭rightytighty


    When will everyone begin studying for the potential Tort/Eu rescheduling? Reckon we’ll get enough notice to start when it’s announced?

    We’ll have to have a few weeks notice anyway. I won’t be doing anything until we’re told!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭leavingcert17


    I have all the manuals and extra materials if anyone wants to pm me


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I received my refund for Tort today!

    Anyone else?
    What do we think of resits based that they’re refunding the exam?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 igobuy


    I received my refund for Tort today!

    Anyone else?
    What do we think of resits based that they’re refunding the exam?

    Haven’t received it yet did you get in the post or did they lodge it to your bank account ? Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Aoaoaoao2019


    I received my refund for Tort today!

    Anyone else?
    What do we think of resits based that they’re refunding the exam?


    Did you ask for a refund?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭ElmoLaw


    so if you decide you are going to do a prep course - whats the best one or are they all relatively the same?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    igobuy wrote: »
    Haven’t received it yet did you get in the post or did they lodge it to your bank account ? Thanks

    I just got an email confirmation of it.. similar to when they confirm our exam orders!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭rightytighty


    I just got an email confirmation of it.. similar to when they confirm our exam orders!

    But did you request the refund, if you did it doesn’t really mean anything in relation to the resit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭nmurphy1441


    But did you request the refund, if you did it doesn’t really mean anything in relation to the resit

    I was offered either a refund or a deferral of the fee if that helps. I got an email from them a few weeks ago, didn’t request anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 lawd20


    Hi guys, hope this wasn't already asked. Has anyone heard about the next sitting for EU and Tort?
    I'm doing my first round of FE1s this year and was thinking I might even get these two of out of the way before doing more in October.

    Appreciate any info that people have! :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 William carpenter


    Hi Guys anyone studying contract? Any ideas on best way to cover the material?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭lawgrad15


    Hi Guys anyone studying contract? Any ideas on best way to cover the material?

    I sat it in March. Did a lot better in it than I thought as it has a high enough fail rate. My advice would be to go for as many essays as you can on the paper. They are quite specific but repeat themselves a lot. A lot of people seem to go down the wrong tracks when answering offer & acceptance problem qs and consumer protection problem qs judging by the exam reports (which by the way are quite detailed and are worth reading in detail and noting where people tend to go wrong). Additionally know the chapter on consumer protection inside out and do some research of your own. Overall, a very doable course. Not the most interesting. Good luck with your studies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭Healyjhow


    Hi guys, I don’t have a law background I’m a commerce student who’s looking to sit four FE1s in October (property,contract,criminal and company). I have done previous law modules in contract and company but I don’t have great notes or anything like that. I am looking to do a prep course for property and criminal as I have no background at all in either, I’m looking at Griffith/independent college, just wondering if anyone here would have any advice about the courses or just how I should start going about study in general? Thanks a mill in advance any help would be greatly appreciated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 HU123


    Hi Guys

    Planning on sitting my first four FE1s in October and to start studying from June. I was thinking about sitting Contract, Equity, Tort and Constitutional in the first sitting and the remaining four in March 2021 all going well.

    I've seen a few people saying that equity is one of the hardest to pass so would it be better to leave this to the second sitting once I have a few under my belt?

    I'm going to keep EU and Constitutional separate but other than that i'm not sure what would be the best four to start of with.

    Any advice is much appreciated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭nmurphy1441


    HU123 wrote: »
    Hi Guys

    Planning on sitting my first four FE1s in October and to start studying from June. I was thinking about sitting Contract, Equity, Tort and Constitutional in the first sitting and the remaining four in March 2021 all going well.

    I've seen a few people saying that equity is one of the hardest to pass so would it be better to leave this to the second sitting once I have a few under my belt?

    I'm going to keep EU and Constitutional separate but other than that i'm not sure what would be the best four to start of with.

    Any advice is much appreciated.

    It’s entirely a personal choice on what to sit! I would have said to sit the 4 shortest subjects to cover when the magic 3 was around but since that is done away with now, I would do whatever you feel comfortable with. Personally, I found equity ok! I just went over past exam papers as all the questions are more or less the same apart from a name change here and there! Maybe try to sit Criminal instead of equity if you feel it might be the hardest, criminal is very do-able!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 lawhelp123


    HU123 wrote: »
    Hi Guys

    Planning on sitting my first four FE1s in October and to start studying from June. I was thinking about sitting Contract, Equity, Tort and Constitutional in the first sitting and the remaining four in March 2021 all going well.

    I've seen a few people saying that equity is one of the hardest to pass so would it be better to leave this to the second sitting once I have a few under my belt?

    I'm going to keep EU and Constitutional separate but other than that i'm not sure what would be the best four to start of with.

    Any advice is much appreciated.

    I would advise doing EU instead of constitutional.

    I know the advice is always to be keep EU and Constitutional separate, but imo Tort is at least as big of a course as EU and as much work if not more, due to the Tort exam being far less predictable. Of the three subjects, Constitutional was by far the biggest course, with the least scope to leave things out, and I personally found it the hardest exam. By contrast, I found EU pretty doable, the course is big but the exam is super predictable and you can leave stuff out fairly safely. It’s also marked relatively easy.

    I’m assuming you’re planning on getting them done in just 2 sittings and you’re trying to split your subjects evenly and not leave yourself horrible ones for the second sitting, but honestly I wouldn’t advise doing Constitutional for a first sitting.

    Criminal and Property are traditional choices for first sittings, they’re both pretty easy exams and Property is super predictable.

    Contract and Equity are both small courses but have a reputation for being harder with high failure rates. I personally found the opposite, and did way better than expected, as I think I do better in exams where the focus is on understanding the material rather than having vast amounts to learn off.

    You’ll know your own strengths when it comes to Property & Criminal vs Contract & Equity, but do look at past papers before you decide.

    The last thing I would say is make sure to check the timetable. No point in making perfect subject choices if it’s gonna leave you with 3/4 exams in a row!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭ElmoLaw


    Healyjhow wrote: »
    Hi guys, I don’t have a law background I’m a commerce student who’s looking to sit four FE1s in October (property,contract,criminal and company). I have done previous law modules in contract and company but I don’t have great notes or anything like that. I am looking to do a prep course for property and criminal as I have no background at all in either, I’m looking at Griffith/independent college, just wondering if anyone here would have any advice about the courses or just how I should start going about study in general? Thanks a mill in advance any help would be greatly appreciated


    Ive been debating myself about the best prep course for kings inns tbh im finding city colleges the most engaging and flexible during this covid-19 time and they are offering hard copy manuals. Griffith not doing hard copy manuals at the moment and wont offer any discount even though they will have less services and independent still havent decided what they are doing for the course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 mmullen


    lawhelp123 wrote: »
    I would advise doing EU instead of constitutional.

    I know the advice is always to be keep EU and Constitutional separate, but imo Tort is at least as big of a course as EU and as much work if not more, due to the Tort exam being far less predictable. Of the three subjects, Constitutional was by far the biggest course, with the least scope to leave things out, and I personally found it the hardest exam. By contrast, I found EU pretty doable, the course is big but the exam is super predictable and you can leave stuff out fairly safely. It’s also marked relatively easy.

    I’m assuming you’re planning on getting them done in just 2 sittings and you’re trying to split your subjects evenly and not leave yourself horrible ones for the second sitting, but honestly I wouldn’t advise doing Constitutional for a first sitting.

    Criminal and Property are traditional choices for first sittings, they’re both pretty easy exams and Property is super predictable.

    Contract and Equity are both small courses but have a reputation for being harder with high failure rates. I personally found the opposite, and did way better than expected, as I think I do better in exams where the focus is on understanding the material rather than having vast amounts to learn off.

    You’ll know your own strengths when it comes to Property & Criminal vs Contract & Equity, but do look at past papers before you decide.

    The last thing I would say is make sure to check the timetable. No point in making perfect subject choices if it’s gonna leave you with 3/4 exams in a row!

    I would second this, Criminal and Property both very doable. Don’t be put off by the size of the EU manual - the topics themselves are not very complex, the exam is predictable and the examiner is lovely. I did tort alongside EU my first sitting and was glad to get it out of the way - yes the course is long but you have time and I found the actual exam to be much easier than constitutional, where the course is broad but it’s also difficult to identify issues from the questions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭Vegetarian2017


    We’ll have to have a few weeks notice anyway. I won’t be doing anything until we’re told!

    Same it is too soon and unpredictable, reading down further it isn't looking promising if they are issuing refunds! :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Aoaoaoao2019


    Are those receiving refunds receiving them because they had asked for a refund instead of deferring to the rescheduled sitting? Or are they receiving unsolicited refunds?

    Stressing waiting for a refund to come through the door when I’m already a nervous wreck waiting for the rescheduled dates


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