Waterford GAA thread - mod warning post #1 and #51

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

Some crazy talk about Georgie Leahy on this board. The man had a very good coaching record and is held in the highest regard within his own county. I accept his time with Waterford wasn't a success, but maybe him being an old school hurling man from Kilkenny he wasn't all that dazzled by our so called rising stars at the time.

was refused entry to the dressing room at half time in Thurles vs Limerick in 1994 if memory serves me correctly but it could have been 92 but anyway the players had enough of him. One player ended up giving the half time team talk. we were awful in the first half and the second half the performance was probably on par with the 89 game vs Cork. only for a last minute save from Quaid for Limerick Waterford would have won the game.

Gardner wrote: »

was refused entry to the dressing room at half time in Thurles vs Limerick in 1994 if memory serves me correctly but it could have been 92 but anyway the players had enough of him. One player ended up giving the half time team talk. we were awful in the first half and the second half the performance was probably on par with the 89 game vs Cork. only for a last minute save from Quaid for Limerick Waterford would have won the game.

That paragraph you wrote(if true) just about sums up Waterford hurling over the past few decades, and people wonder why we haven't won an AI in 60 years..

Stacksofwacks wrote: »

That paragraph you wrote(if true) just about sums up Waterford hurling over the past few decades, and people wonder why we haven't won an AI in 60 years..

‘If true’ are they keywords there

seananigans wrote: »

counties are relatively isolated ,especially if you split into divisions, Waterford has a very low infection rate, why cant we play off the county championship , no spectators max of 40 people per side plus 10 officials ,showers and the like its not like you can touch your face iwth helmets

You certainly can touch your face through a helmet. In the current times it's probably not a good idea but if you chalked your hand and just went about your average day you'd be amazed just how often that you make contact with your face without realising it.

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

‘If true’ are they keywords there

110% fact. Had 2 club mates in the dressing room

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

Well they should be ashamed of themselves

obviously you were never in a dressing room when the Manager has lost the complete respect of the players. Happened to me twice, once the team left the dressing room early before throw in a county semi final to take the field and another again similarly at half time (won both times mind you). But then again you were probably one of these lads who never played the game but an expert sitting in the stands writing ****e down and criticizing players just to sound cool to the people sitting around you. To say the likes of Sean Cullinane, Damien Byrne, Stephen Frampton, Tony Browne, Fergal Hartley & Paul Flynn should be ashamed of themselves for what they done that day and being part of a very young and inexperienced team with an incompetent Manager especially what they have given Waterford Hurling both on and off the field is an embarrassment for your personally and you should hang your head in shame.

Gardner wrote: »

obviously you were never in a dressing room when the Manager has lost the complete respect of the players. Happened to me twice, once the team left the dressing room early before throw in a county semi final to take the field and another again similarly at half time (won both times mind you). But then again you were probably one of these lads who never played the game but an expert sitting in the stands writing ****e down and criticizing players just to sound cool to the people sitting around you. To say the likes of Sean Cullinane, Damien Byrne, Stephen Frampton, Tony Browne, Fergal Hartley & Paul Flynn should be ashamed of themselves for what they done that day and being part of a very young and inexperienced team with an incompetent Manager especially what they have given Waterford Hurling both on and off the field is an embarrassment for your personally and you should hang your head in shame.

I’ll never back players for disrespecting their manager In that way, weve a long history of it in Waterford. Some of the lads mentioned above have form as they were part of a coupe that ousted Justin later on in their careers so not as if this was a once off. That then set the catalyst for the disgraceful revolt against skully rysn in 2013. And why wouldn’t some lads behave like spoilt brats under Patric Fanning when you look at the example set before them. I would hope we’ve left that culture of blame in the past now and I was happy to see Liam Cahill lay down his marker early

Could be wrong but there has never been any interviews where the team talk by Derek before the All Ireland final has been discussed ??

I reckon a few tears were shed

mountgomery burns wrote: »

He said on the Sunday game last year I think about getting too emotive before it, referencing Conor Gleeson not being able to play and said he probably got carried away.

Sweet Jesus!

In today’s Irish Examiner, sports journalist Michael Moynihan identified the 2004 Munster hurling final and the 1982 All-Ireland football final as the two standout games from the recent surge of TV broadcasts of GAA games from the past. Of the games shown, Moynihan reckons that these are the only two which comfortably fit the description of GAA classics.

Watching the broadcasts of the 2004 game on RTE and TG4 confirmed for me that it was the best hurling match I ever saw – an opinion I formed as the game actually unfolded before my eyes. Admittedly the game had some loose hurling that you would never see nowadays, and some very bad misses, but this was more than counterbalanced by some brilliant scores and passages of play. But what really made the game were the closeness of the scores from start to finish, the excitement in the ground, and the extraordinary sequence of dramatic episodes, especially in the second half.

For Cork, I particularly remember a brilliant point scored by Brian Corcoran in the first half and an even better one from Jerry O’Connor in the second half when he gave a long pass to his brother Ben, ran 50 metres to take the return pass and stick it over the bar. And then there was Ronan Curran’s brilliant second half performance.

For Waterford, Dan Shanahan almost kept them in the game on his own in the first half when he struck 1-3. It was an amazing blunder on Donal O’Grady’s part to move John Gardiner over the mark Shanahan from the start. By the time he moved Seán Óg Ó hAilpín back to his regular position, where he did much better in containing Shanahan, the damage was done and other Waterford players (especially Paul Flynn) stepped up to the plate. Then there was Eoin Kelly’s superb solo goal with a brilliant strike from a seemingly impossible angle close to the end line.

In the second half we had the Mullane sending off, Flynn’s wonder goal, Seamus Prendergast’s long-range point from out near the sideline which proved to be the winning point, his brother Declan’s last-gasp interception which denied Cork an almost certain goal late in the game, and finally Ken McGrath’s marvellous catch to end Cork’s last chance to level up the game.

Shortly before Flynn’s wonder goal, he hit what looked like a very poor wide from a free from in front of the goal. I have had it suggested to me that Flynn was also going for a goal from this free, but it didn’t work out. Flynn also went for a goal from a close free on the left in the first half, but hit the upright. It could be said that if he had taken the points in all three cases, he would have got the same aggregate score as the one goal he did get. But that goal came at a crucial time, when Cork had got a bit of a grip on the game, and it clearly had an inspirational effect both on the players and the supporters.

Given that they were playing the reigning Munster champions – who went on to win the next two All-Irelands – winning this game was a marvellous achievement for Waterford, especially when one considers the constraints under which they had to operate. These include the fact that they played the game with three passengers on the field, no worthwhile subs and a poor goalkeeper, and played almost all the second half a man short, the player in question being one of our best forwards.

These weaknesses help explain why this group of players never managed to go all the way in the championship, although Justin McCarthy’s bizarre selections and poor game management didn’t help either. But they still gave us some great days which we will always cherish.

PTH2009 wrote: »

how many of the traditional football clubs in the county have went well in the senior hurling championships ???

Abbeyside/Ballinacourty got to a few Hurling finals in the recent times

Werent Stradbally in the Hurling semi finals a while back, Mount Sion beat them at the stage one year if i remember

Fourmilewater/Nire can be compeitive in the Hurling but never seem to go far

Fourmilewater made 2 semi-finals in the last decade

PTH2009 wrote: »

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Hard to believe this happened, a Waterford football team in an All Ireland Semi final against the mighty Dubs. We sadly lost the game 3-10-1-07 but fairytale run for that years Under 21 football team. Munster champions

Waterford played some Stone Age football that evening in Thurles. They had no concept of a quick free kick. They had dedicated free takers, so if you had a free in midfield the ball had to be given to the relevant free taker to take. By then, the Dublin defence was all set for the inevitable high ball in.