Gas BBQ/Grilling

doctorchopper · 11-05-2020 2:45pm

Frank11 wrote: »

Did my 1st cook on my new Weber Spirit II E-310 over the weekend. Couple of striplion steaks and corn on the cob. Steaks were delicious but i was surprised how long they took to cook compared to a hot pan.

The grill grates consist 3 pieces, left, right and circular center. I thought the grates were reversible, one side for thin grill lines and the other for thicker. The center piece will only fit when on the thicker grill line side. Is that correct?

Are people cleaning the flavoriser bars after every use?

Thats correct, thicker side up, i never clean the flavour bars,

Dizzyblonde · 11-05-2020 4:02pm

Frank11 wrote: »

Did my 1st cook on my new Weber Spirit II E-310 over the weekend. Couple of striplion steaks and corn on the cob. Steaks were delicious but i was surprised how long they took to cook compared to a hot pan.

The grill grates consist 3 pieces, left, right and circular center. I thought the grates were reversible, one side for thin grill lines and the other for thicker. The center piece will only fit when on the thicker grill line side. Is that correct?

Are people cleaning the flavoriser bars after every use?

Are you using patio gas or butane? If it's butane it won't be as hot.

podge018 · 11-05-2020 6:39pm

Seen the "Weber 210" mentioned a lot on this thread. What is the difference between these 2?

https://aroomoutside.ie/products/spirit-eo-210?_pos

https://aroomoutside.ie/products/weber-spirit-ii-e-210-gbs

Which is better?

I assume they would do a family of 4, but what about cooking for 10 on rare occasions? Doable or out of the question.

salmocab · 11-05-2020 7:18pm

podge018 wrote: »

Seen the "Weber 210" mentioned a lot on this thread. What is the difference between these 2?

https://aroomoutside.ie/products/spirit-eo-210?_pos

https://aroomoutside.ie/products/weber-spirit-ii-e-210-gbs

Which is better?

I assume they would do a family of 4, but what about cooking for 10 on rare occasions? Doable or out of the question.

I have the gbs one, it’s compatible with the Weber gbs bits like the pizza stone (which is ringing it’s way to me for my birthday), the blurbs suggest the first one has enamel grates which I don’t think sear meat great. You’ll easily cook for 4 on it and for 10 you’ll need to be very organised.

Frank11 · 11-05-2020 7:26pm

Dizzyblonde wrote: »

Are you using patio gas or butane? If it's butane it won't be as hot.

Patio gas. Its just a lack of experience on my part I'd say.

doctorchopper · 11-05-2020 7:42pm

podge018 wrote: »

Seen the "Weber 210" mentioned a lot on this thread. What is the difference between these 2?

https://aroomoutside.ie/products/spirit-eo-210?_pos

https://aroomoutside.ie/products/weber-spirit-ii-e-210-gbs

Which is better?

I assume they would do a family of 4, but what about cooking for 10 on rare occasions? Doable or out of the question.

They both have GBS grill, the first one comes with it as a free accessory as well as a cover that would cost around 100. I had a version of the first one and it was a excellent bbq. They lid on the second one looks very low limiting you on size of rotisserie chickens. the frame on the first one does tend to rust on the bottom where the gas bottle is meant to rest, mine was 3 years old and was showing sines of corrosion on the base. I don't know what the second one would be like for corrosion

Krombopulos Michael · 11-05-2020 9:48pm

podge018 wrote: »

Seen the "Weber 210" mentioned a lot on this thread. What is the difference between these 2?

https://aroomoutside.ie/products/spirit-eo-210?_pos

https://aroomoutside.ie/products/weber-spirit-ii-e-210-gbs

Which is better?

I assume they would do a family of 4, but what about cooking for 10 on rare occasions? Doable or out of the question.

Both sold out on that site to my dismay

shanec1928 · 12-05-2020 10:29am

anyone order anything from weber direct lately? have an order for some accessories since the 30th and not dispatched yet.

heldel00 · 12-05-2020 11:22am

Ordered Tuesday the 5th and email this morning that it's en route.

beertons · 12-05-2020 11:34am

Torn between ordering

https://www.saharabbqs.com/products/x350-gas-bbq/?utm_campaign=IE+BBQs+-+shop+online&utm_source=google&utm_medium=ppc&utm_term=sahara%20barbecue&utm_content=3042959xEAIaIQobChMIy_iLxo-u6QIVibbtCh0vIg_0EAAYASACEgJ8VvD_BwE

or

https://www.horkans.ie/p/char-broil-340-3-burner-bbq/187080983?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIovnp84-u6QIVxu7tCh1mrANaEAQYAyABEgLVXPD_BwE

Help me decide.

cullenswood · 12-05-2020 11:56am

Whats the best way to clean these porcelain-enamelled weber grates? Give them a good old brushing on the top after every cook, but noticed the under part (thinner bit) is nicely coated with grease now. Just scrub them with the brush also?

12-05-2020 1:40pm

podge018 wrote: »

Seen the "Weber 210" mentioned a lot on this thread. What is the difference between these 2?

https://aroomoutside.ie/products/spirit-eo-210?_pos

https://aroomoutside.ie/products/weber-spirit-ii-e-210-gbs

Which is better?

I assume they would do a family of 4, but what about cooking for 10 on rare occasions? Doable or out of the question.

A week ago you could have got the top one for 450 euro- it’s an older model of the bottom one. If back in stock and buying the bottom one make sure it has cast iron cooking grates like the top one not porcelain enamel grated which rust.

Someone mentioned rust on Weber e210 where gas goes _ this only applies if you are purchasing the small gas canister that can fit under the hob if you wish- but most people go with the full size gas canister that sits beside the BBQ - pulling a metal canister in and out of the base will likely lead to rust over time alright

12-05-2020 1:43pm

doctorchopper wrote: »

Thats correct, thicker side up, i never clean the flavour bars,

Me neither- they do rust away though after a few years- I’m on my second set - I leave the BBQ out and covered all year around though so they get a lot of use

doctorchopper · 12-05-2020 1:47pm

Deleted User wrote: »

A week ago you could have got the top one for 450 euro- it’s an older model of the bottom one. If back in stock and buying the bottom one make sure it has cast iron cooking grates like the top one not porcelain enamel grated which rust.

Someone mentioned rust on Weber e210 where gas goes _ this only applies if you are purchasing the small gas canister that can fit under the hob if you wish- but most people go with the full size gas canister that sits beside the BBQ - pulling a metal canister in and out of the base will likely lead to rust over time alright

Sorry i was just using the bottle location as a description as to where they rust, i never had a bottle inside mine and did get surface rust, paint bubbling to the point where i stripped it back, treated the corrosion and re painted it with color match paint.

podge018 · 12-05-2020 3:11pm

as those weber 210 deals are sold out I'm now looking at the Sahara X350 Red on sale at €379. Unfortunately the newer black version with the grill insert system is sold out.

Krombopulos Michael · 12-05-2020 3:21pm

podge018 wrote: »

as those weber 210 deals are sold out I'm now looking at the Sahara X350 Red on sale at €379. Unfortunately the newer black version with the grill insert system is sold out.

https://coisnahabhann.ie/?product=bbq-spirit-classic-e-210

podge018 · 12-05-2020 6:39pm

Krombopulos Michael wrote: »

https://coisnahabhann.ie/?product=bbq-spirit-classic-e-210

thanks, it's a bit aways and there's no cover included unfortunately.

12-05-2020 9:01pm

doctorchopper wrote: »

Sorry i was just using the bottle location as a description as to where they rust, i never had a bottle inside mine and did get surface rust, paint bubbling to the point where i stripped it back, treated the corrosion and re painted it with color match paint.

Mines perfect after a number of years- I keep small bits and pieces there

Krombopulos Michael · 12-05-2020 9:21pm

podge018 wrote: »

thanks, it's a bit aways and there's no cover included unfortunately.

They do delivery for 49 euro but yeah needs cover

Krombopulos Michael · 13-05-2020 12:05pm

https://new.buqta.com/gas-grills-c-5_8/-p-221.html

This can't be legit can it?

salmocab · 13-05-2020 12:07pm

Krombopulos Michael wrote: »

https://new.buqta.com/gas-grills-c-5_8/-p-221.html

This can't be legit can it?

I would think not

Charlie19 · 13-05-2020 12:14pm

That site was only registered on the 9th of this month.

davegilly · 13-05-2020 12:21pm

Charlie19 wrote: »

That site was only registered on the 9th of this month.

But, but what about the bargains to be had?

Seriously though - How thick are they? Why didn't they just reduce the RRP by 50 or 100 max then they would have some hope of scamming people. Knocking 400+ off the price is a tad stupid!!

Gloomtastic! · 13-05-2020 12:41pm

Look at this - all too good to be true

https://new.buqta.com/

Alun · 13-05-2020 12:51pm

Gloomtastic! wrote: »

Look at this - all too good to be true

https://new.buqta.com/

Looks bogus to me.

https://who.is/whois/buqta.com

The Nal · 13-05-2020 12:52pm

"INFORMATIONS" down the bottom. Dead giveaway.

Gooser14 · 13-05-2020 12:58pm

Anybody got feedback on the Kuhn Rikon VK9000 Gas BBQ Grill?

Sebastian Dangerfield · 13-05-2020 1:08pm

For smoking on a gas bbq, does anyone have a view on whats better - the tube shown in the video in the first post, or the smoke box that goes under the bars? Or are they used for different things?

13-05-2020 1:23pm

Gloomtastic! wrote: »

Look at this - all too good to be true

https://new.buqta.com/

Just bought 10 grill centres for a grand- adverts.ie here I come :P

Sheep Shagger · 13-05-2020 1:28pm

Charlie19 wrote: »

That site was only registered on the 9th of this month.

And no physical contact address anywhere to be seen.

hargo · 13-05-2020 1:59pm

just caught this thread too late for some but my advise for what's its worth is stay well away from Sahara range. I've been using gas BBQ for over 30 years and burnt out a few of them. I didn't get that chance with Sahara from Woodies as it was so bad i just threw it out.
The model i got was a fully stainless steel 3 burner about €500 at the time. Right from the start i felt that I wasn't getting the really hot searing heat for steaks burgers etc. After a while I contacted the Wicklow based manufacturer/distributer and explained the problem and they in fairness sent me new burners and gas inserts. However it still didn't produce the heat of other BBQ I had had and I found it frustrating to use. Personally I didn't think it was worth holding on to and dumped it and went for the Broil King which I have connected to my natural gas( you need to order it specially).
I have had this for about 8 years and use it winter and summer and it still performs almost as well as new. I will need to replace a burner shortly. Maybe I was unlucky twice with Sahara but I couldn't recommend them.

zefer · 13-05-2020 3:01pm

Anyone have a good generic cover for their BBQ? Got a broil King but didnt fancy spending another €120 - €140 for a branded cover

afatbollix · 13-05-2020 3:04pm

I go for the B&Q ones myself. Just measure it out and get one closest to your size and at that price point, I don't mind buying one every 3 or 4 years.

Cyrus · 13-05-2020 3:19pm

zefer wrote: »

Anyone have a good generic cover for their BBQ? Got a broil King but didnt fancy spending another €120 - €140 for a branded cover

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07QY3DYYL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

this

lifetime gtee

Gloomtastic! · 13-05-2020 3:25pm

zefer wrote: »

Anyone have a good generic cover for their BBQ? Got a broil King but didnt fancy spending another €120 - €140 for a branded cover

The Home Store and More heavy duty one is good. Don't see them listed on their website though.

bambam26 · 13-05-2020 3:40pm

hargo wrote: »

just caught this thread too late for some but my advise for what's its worth is stay well away from Sahara range. I've been using gas BBQ for over 30 years and burnt out a few of them. I didn't get that chance with Sahara from Woodies as it was so bad i just threw it out.
The model i got was a fully stainless steel 3 burner about €500 at the time. Right from the start i felt that I wasn't getting the really hot searing heat for steaks burgers etc. After a while I contacted the Wicklow based manufacturer/distributer and explained the problem and they in fairness sent me new burners and gas inserts. However it still didn't produce the heat of other BBQ I had had and I found it frustrating to use. Personally I didn't think it was worth holding on to and dumped it and went for the Broil King which I have connected to my natural gas( you need to order it specially).
I have had this for about 8 years and use it winter and summer and it still performs almost as well as new. I will need to replace a burner shortly. Maybe I was unlucky twice with Sahara but I couldn't recommend them.

ouch...I have literally just finished setting up mine !!!!!!

tonytiger81 · 13-05-2020 3:49pm

I'm gonna try a brisket for the second time ever on a gas bbq tomorrow and was wondering if anyone has any recommendations?

The first one (last year) didn't work out too well so I was wondering about a few things. The bbq is a small enough 3 burner and i'm reading mixed things about setting the furthest burner on highest or lowest setting and the meat on the other end. Converting american youtube video temperatures tells me about 140 celcius is the target temp, would this sound about right? I'll be soaking some weber whiskey wood chips for 30 mins before and using a home made foil smoker placed on the grill rack directly over the burner.

Secondly, when it comes to a rub: I'm thinking of mixing himalayan pink salt, onion granules, mild chilli powder, smoked sweet paprika and cayenne pepper for the rub and making a spray bottle composed of equal measures of pineapple juice, apple juice and red wine or balsamic vinegar. Target time for a small cut of approx. 1 kilo would be about 8 hours?

Thanks in advance
Tony

The Nal · 13-05-2020 4:07pm

tonytiger81 wrote: »

I'm gonna try a brisket for the second time ever on a gas bbq tomorrow and was wondering if anyone has any recommendations?

The first one (last year) didn't work out too well so I was wondering about a few things. The bbq is a small enough 3 burner and i'm reading mixed things about setting the furthest burner on highest or lowest setting and the meat on the other end. Converting american youtube video temperatures tells me about 140 celcius is the target temp, would this sound about right? I'll be soaking some weber whiskey wood chips for 30 mins before and using a home made foil smoker placed on the grill rack directly over the burner.

Secondly, when it comes to a rub: I'm thinking of mixing himalayan pink salt, onion granules, mild chilli powder, smoked sweet paprika and cayenne pepper for the rub and making a spray bottle composed of equal measures of pineapple juice, apple juice and red wine or balsamic vinegar. Target time for a small cut of approx. 1 kilo would be about 8 hours?

Thanks in advance
Tony

Looks good, couple of things.

I wouldn't go above 125c on the BBQ.

I would add some sugar to the rub.

Cooking time depends on the thickness of the brisket so keep an eye on temp. Aim for internal temp of 95c. Could take 5 hours, could take 14!

The "stall" or "plateau" (where collagen converts into gelatin) starts when the meat temp is about 65c and may lasted for a few hours. Once over that hump, it'll come up to 95c quite quickly.

Wrap it in a towel (so it can breathe a bit) for an hour and slice away.

tonytiger81 · 13-05-2020 5:41pm

Sounds good. Forgot to mention the brown sugar in the mix above. Would you overnight the rub on the brisket? (wrapped up in the fridge)?

13-05-2020 6:40pm

Yeah- 125c max for the gas low and slow. Evaporation from the top is also a key cause of the “stall”- .i.e it’s evaporating liquid which is then cooling the top of the meat- after about 4 hours I wrap and turn the meat upside down - I find this helps avoid a tough outside and makes it more like the melting fall away from bone interior

Mr.Crinklewood · 13-05-2020 9:49pm

zefer wrote: »

Anyone have a good generic cover for their BBQ? Got a broil King but didnt fancy spending another €120 - €140 for a branded cover

Hi. Which Broil King did you go for, and what are your first impressions?

Cheers.

hargo · 14-05-2020 11:22am

zefer wrote: »

Anyone have a good generic cover for their BBQ? Got a broil King but didnt fancy spending another €120 - €140 for a branded cover

Zefer I got an OMC barbecue cover supplied with my 3 burner Broil King which I came across last week while cleaning out the garage. Its never been used because i have my BBQ built in under cover. If you are close to Drogheda you can have it for a tenner. Its as new and very heavy duty.

Tree · 14-05-2020 10:58pm

Sebastian Dangerfield wrote: »

For smoking on a gas bbq, does anyone have a view on whats better - the tube shown in the video in the first post, or the smoke box that goes under the bars? Or are they used for different things?

If you have flavour bars, you'll need to make a foil pouch you can balance on them. Picked up a box on a whim and it won't stay put and on the grill bars it's too high up to smoke.

podge018 · 15-05-2020 11:06am

are smoke boxes for 1. smoking food as method of cooking it, 2. flavouring food being cooked on the grill, or 3. both?

The Nal · 15-05-2020 11:28am

podge018 wrote: »

are smoke boxes for 1. smoking food as method of cooking it, 2. flavouring food being cooked on the grill, or 3. both?

Flavouring only.

podge018 · 15-05-2020 12:17pm

The link in the first post is a bit misleading then, no?

https://happymoneysaver.com/easy-homemade-bbq-smoker-plans/

Talks about this method being a replacement for a '$300 smoker' and "Smoke for the recommended amount of time or until desired temperature of your meat is reached".

Confusing.

The Nal · 15-05-2020 12:30pm

podge018 wrote: »

The link in the first post is a bit misleading then, no?

https://happymoneysaver.com/easy-homemade-bbq-smoker-plans/

Talks about this method being a replacement for a '$300 smoker' and "Smoke for the recommended amount of time or until desired temperature of your meat is reached".

Confusing.

Yeah but she has one side of the grill on. The one under the smoker box. Grill for indirect heat, smoke for flavour.

Its a replacement for a smoker assuming you already have a gas BBQ!

whippet · 17-05-2020 2:44pm

I eventually decided on the Weber Spirt II E-320. Delivered during the week from aroomoutside .

Spent a few hours yesterday morning putting it together - simple enough task if you have space and lay it out before starting.

Went on the hunt for patio gas - couldn’t get it anywhere but eventually was told to try the ‘gas light’ form calor - fits perfectly and grill fired up on first go.

So will use it properly this evening for dinner .. I got the pizza stone and cast iron skillet for it - to fit in the GBS grates. Going to go for some Salmon cutlets and fresh veg

Will probably look at getting the rotisserie attachment down the line.

Sheep Shagger · 17-05-2020 3:22pm

If you are in Dublin you can order gas bottles for delivery. They collect your empty (if you have one) a few days later.

https://shop.flogas.ie/collections/bottled-gas?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIp7vNj4y76QIVQeztCh2XKQRcEAAYASAAEgJwk_D_BwE&q=shop%2Fbottled-gas

the beer revolu · 17-05-2020 6:32pm

Another butterflyed piece of lamb leg resting as I type.
Yummmmmm

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