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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭diego_b


    Sorry to hear that news, a rough situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    Deepest condolences J, that’s very tough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,808 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    Very sorry to hear that J. It's one of those things that lots of us wouldn't think of when considering the impact of Covid on the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,427 ✭✭✭scotindublin


    Condolences on your uncle J that sounds really tough on the family.

    Take care of yourself and the good lady and hopefully our paths will cross again in the park some Sunday morning when things get back to normal.

    C


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    Sorry to hear J. Hope you're OK.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,307 ✭✭✭ariana`


    So sorry for your loss J. Was in a similar situation last week with the death of an uncle. An already tough time made tougher by the situation. In my case there was a small family funeral (one of the last) but there was a lot of turmoil involved in deciding whether to go or not and once there how to manage social distancing.... Nothing easy about these very strange times, we just got to keep the faith and look forward to happier more social times ahead. Take care of yourselves x


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,964 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Sorry to hear about your uncle J.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭Baby75


    Sorry about your uncle J


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,601 ✭✭✭Wubble Wubble


    Thanks for all your kind words. It's been 12 days since I last posted an update here. In truth, it seems like a lot longer!
    The other aforementioned uncle has completed his self isolation following his Spanish hols.
    A cousin living in Oz (early 30s) is now recovered from the virus, although even for a fit young man, he'd a few scares along the way. Hopefully that's it on that front. We're both healthy and working from home, and all our nearest and dearest are well as I type.

    March Review

    Given everything that's happened since, looking back I was probably fortunate to get to run the Carlingford HM at all. Thankfully, neither myself nor my clubmate (and work colleague, as it happens) had any health issues subsequently. The shutters came down pretty much everywhere after the Bohermeen half the next day, although the following Sunday (15th), the Bath and Liverpool HM organisers both insisted on staging their events :mad:

    I took over a week off after Carlingford, before settling into my new "antisocial running" regime. I haven't run with anyone from the club (apart from the HM) since the first day of this month. I always ran solo in Finglas, as well as for my first couple of years in D15, so to me it's not as unnatural as some might find it. For the first week and a half, there was scope for more variation. I took a couple of trips over to the West County, to run from there to Waterstown, a parkrun (including one in reverse) and back. There was also a trip further down memory lane, with a little run through Finglas.

    Now, due to the latest Government directives, I'm keeping it all in D15. It was interesting to note that half of the Waterstown parkrun course is within 2k of my house, yet all of Hartstown Park is outside the arc :pac: It doesn't make for interesting running routes, but even so, I plan to run every day for as long as we're let. Currently, I'm on a 10 day running streak.
    I also tried pilates for the first time last week. A clubmate invited us to link up with her online class. I have to say it's just as well nobody was watching me struggle with some of the exercises :D but I'll be back for more.

    Races: 1 (YTD 8)
    parkruns: 0 (4)
    Mileage: 107 (327)
    Days Active: 19/31 (56/91)

    "Before you judge me take a look at you,
    Can't you find something better to do"


    Some people really need to find things that make them happy, instead of spending their lives permanently outraged. As you may or may not know, the Coronavirus thread in A/R got hijacked by someone with a writing style very similar to a so-called "journalist" based in Portugal, jumping in two footed (having never before posted in A/R) and looking for arguments with the regulars. Of course, a few of his lackeys hopped in as well, but they were very much outnumbered. He went fairly quiet after AMK called him out. Lazare's video over there is well worth a look. Personally, the reason I run so early is to be responsible and to maintain social distancing, not just for my own sake but my wife's. I haven't even visited my mother in more than three weeks. Contrary to what the cranks on Twitter and Facebook believe, the runners that I know are caring and considerate individuals, and it may shock some people to hear that many of us have vulnerable close family too, and hence we are more inclined to think of others in these uncertain times, even as we leave trails of our "toxic sweat" behind us. Breathe in, breathe out.

    There Is No Next

    Well, who knows really ? The above is the title of a Michael Jordan biography, written by Sam Smith (the journalist, not the singer) The Connemara HM has been rescheduled for September 27, but to be honest I'm not really thinking about that, or any other official race at the moment.
    However, assuming we haven't been taken off the roads by then, I'm eyeing up the Boards A/R 5k TT on April 25. Solo runs only - more info in that thread. Just for the craic for me really. It'll be fun trying to find fourth gear in Porterstown at 6 AM! Thanks for reading. Stay positive. Stay safe. J.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Waterstone Park is indeed within the 2km radius - but you cant get to it and keep within the 2km (or can you?)!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,601 ✭✭✭Wubble Wubble


    Waterstone Park is indeed within the 2km radius - but you cant get to it and keep within the 2km (or can you?)!!

    Only if you fancy swimming, it seems! An awful pity. In your case, it would be doable if they ever repaired the Guinness bridge and tunnel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭Bluesquare


    Great post - inspired me to come of the closet with regard to making my strava feeds public again . I just didn’t want to deal with the permanently outraged and the judgey judges . But sod them . Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    Bluesquare wrote:
    Great post - inspired me to come of the closet with regard to making my strava feeds public again . I just didn’t want to deal with the permanently outraged and the judgey judges . But sod them . Thanks

    Outraged judgy judges rarely make the effort to delve in to the depths of the forum. They search out very topical, popular and potentially combative threads and head there. So don't worry, they won't read your or my log :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,601 ✭✭✭Wubble Wubble


    Bluesquare wrote: »
    Great post - inspired me to come of the closet with regard to making my strava feeds public again . I just didn’t want to deal with the permanently outraged and the judgey judges . But sod them . Thanks

    You're right R :) helping each other out in adversity is important!

    Glad I could be of some assistance :D If they reduce it to 1k radius, I've still got the Carpenterstown loop and Tír na nÓg (Porterstown's kind of borderline)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    Well said WW. I'm running closer to the cars these days than people. Hailing from Cavan originally I'm used to sharing my space with them. I hope the cars don't catch it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,601 ✭✭✭Wubble Wubble


    Thanks all, still healthy, still running every day (within my 2k radius) - currently the active streak stands at 20.

    Having noted some of the gang on here and elsewhere doing a few sessions, I decided I might do the same. Hence, last Friday (April 3) I tried one of the easier ones which we would have regularly run in Porterstown. (400 on/400 off) x 5, + WU/CD. Easier with a group of similar standard at 7 in the evening, that is. 7 in the morning on my own, a bit different. Gasping before I'd even done the second fast lap :eek:

    The next day, the organisers of the Castleknock 5k, scheduled for June 14, made the only sensible decision they could make, and announced the cancellation of this year's race. Instead, they suggested that intending participants run a virtual 2k, and donate to St Francis Hospice. This morning I headed back to the Porterstown grass track to have a go. I knew I wouldn't be anywhere near Seán Hehir's 6:02 :pac: but I'd be happy with anything around 8 minutes.

    My first warmup lap had to be abandoned less than halfway through, as an overly friendly greyhound bounded over to me. Try as he might, his owner couldn't get him back on the lead for ages, even with another dog having arrived in the meantime. I had to stand still while all this was going on, set to go somewhere else when I got the chance. However, my wife was laughing her head off on the far side of the track, so let's be grateful for what we have, wha? At least it wasn't like Inishbofin, where over the years I've had several angry dogs (and an angry seagull!) chasing me.

    Eventually, with the dog out of sight, I got a few warmup laps, stretches and strides done. Not really having a clue how to pace this without anyone to run with, the far too quick first lap, and second to a lesser extent, sealed my fate. The rest of it was a battle of wills just to keep going. Sure if I stop now, only the two of us will know. We can come back and try again (possible extension of lockdown restrictions notwithstanding). Ok then, "only" five laps altogether. Completed it, in a time of 8:01, on what might be a slightly long course (apart from its hilly profile!) but not to worry. Hoping we can keep ourselves active in the outdoors, in spite of a clear narrative aimed at having the sub human scum that are runners and "joggers" (so the cranks would have you believe) forced inside. Stay positive. Stay safe. Happy Easter to you and yours. Thanks for reading. J.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,509 ✭✭✭Laineyfrecks


    That made me laugh J (not the dogs as they'd scare me:eek:) your wife laughing... it really is the little things that will get us through:)

    Nice 2km time there ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,601 ✭✭✭Wubble Wubble


    Morning all !

    Yeah, still keeping the show on the road here. Easter came and went without a break in activity, and I'm now up to 27 consecutive days getting out for a few (mostly) easy miles early in the morning. Just the one Easter egg, and apart from a blowout on Friday, alcohol consumption was at responsible levels. Contrary to the myth that seems to be out there, not all of us can sit drinking beer all day just because we're working from home :pac:

    Particularly as I've been staying within the 2k radius, most of the runs aren't that interesting - the minutiae are available via Strava. Having the Phoenix Park quite close, but all outside 2k (White's Gate is just under 3k from the house ATCF), is proving to be a right pain.
    I did however try another session this morning, on the grass track in Porterstown. This was a new one for me - I've done pyramid sessions before, but not this exact one. After a 1.5 mile warmup, I started into it. 200/400/600/800/600/400/200, with 200 metre jog recoveries. Doesn't read too badly, does it? :pac: Short recoveries, and lack of consistency in the pacing, meant the downward side of the pyramid was especially hard. Of course the track was its usual hilly and windy self :D Anyway, it's in the bag, good, bad or indifferent.

    Looking at the lineup for next week's 5k TT, it seems to be my misfortune to be in what will be the most keenly contested age category of the lot (M45). Even a sub-60 10 miler (AMK) may struggle against the likes of Krusty and ultrapercy - both long time Boards stalwarts, and fine runners too, coming out of posting semi retirement just for this it seems! As for me, looking at projected times I could be a poor last in my category, and among the tailenders overall. But it's nice to have something like this to try out, with the resumption of real live racing looking less and less likely to happen even in 2020. Venue will probably be a virtual Porterstown parkrun. Pros: I know the course probably better than anyone here. Cons: It's not one of the faster parkruns. Plenty of walkers and dogs, even early in the morning, so potentially a lot of bobbing and weaving. Still it's probably a better fit for this exercise than the approx. 3k Carpenterstown loop, or the half mile Tír na nÓg. Both of these tend to fill up with walkers (and other runners) quite quickly. Sure I'm probably overthinking it :pac: Stay positive. Stay safe. Thanks for reading. J.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭eyrie


    Eeeek do you reckon there really won't be any racing back this year? I hadn't even considered that :eek:
    Lovely consistency over the last while. Good luck in the TT!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,601 ✭✭✭Wubble Wubble


    Sat 25/4 - Boards A/R Virtual 5k TT, Porterstown Park

    Since my last update here, I managed to extend my running streak to 31 days (March 22 to April 21 inclusive). Trouble was, I was finding it ever more difficult to keep this going. It got to a point where before, during, and after my run on Tuesday (21st) I felt like I'd drank two bottles of wine (at least!) the night before. Very ugly looking, no matter how you might try to sugarcoat it.

    I decided some things were more important than getting out of bed to run early every day (proving also that I do listen to some of you here - eyrie and ReeReeG in this instance). Two days off improved my fitness, sharpness, and general energy levels, and a relaxed Friday shakeout in Tír na nÓg completed my prep for the most eagerly awaited event on Boards for many months.

    Up nice and early this morning, bright and sunny, no wind. No alcohol since last Sunday for me, although unfortunately I can't say the same regarding sweets and chocolate. On went the visor and the old racing runners (no Cheaterflys here) for a warmup and shuffle around a lap of Porterstown Park. One or two dog walkers around, but none of them would impede my (lack of?) progress in any way.
    It felt really weird gearing up at the start line all alone for a virtual parkrun, but this is what I chose, so let's go!

    Lap 1

    Hard down to the first right hander, through the trees and into the large field with the two GAA pitches. I'm feeling the pace already but decide to just see can I hold it for the first kilometre and take it from there. Downhill to the lowest point on the course, along the back of the pitches and up the first drag back up. Through the first km in 3:47. Hmm. Considering my best time here is 20:36, maybe I can crack that this morning? Through the first mile in 6:23, which is sub 20 pace. Very sore already. Still two laps to go.

    Lap 2

    Between having run the first km (not to mention the first lap) too fast, and struggling to adapt to racing hard alone, my pace slowed significantly. Even trying to visualise various opponents wasn't working, as in my mind they were leaving me for dust. I actually dipped below 8 min mile pace very briefly along the drag past Castleknock Celtic/Anatomic Fitness back up to the car park. 6:47 for the second mile. Oooooffff. One more!

    Lap 3

    I tried a bit of a spurt down the hill and along the bottom of the park, but the drags back up soon took the remaining wind from my sails. Finish it out at least. Of course there was nobody to chase, and nobody chasing me, which reduced my motivation to sprint it out. I think I may have gone a tiny bit past the parkrun finish. Not to worry.

    Time: 21:11
    This was for 3.15 miles according to Strava, which gave me a 5k time of 20:45. Go figure. My prediction was 21:30, so actually better than I expected given my current level of fitness.

    Position: TBC
    Category: TBC (M45), but overall will be towards the tail end of M45 in particular.

    I thought I might have the consolation of being first up, best dressed, and having set the (very low!) bar for those following. Turns out Lambay Island beat me to it :D and in fact, I didn't even have the best time in Porterstown for long.
    As I was leaving, I saw another lad running in. Turns out he's in this as well, and ran the parkrun course in 19:45.

    Thanks so much to OOnegative for organising this. Great to have so many out running it. Delighted that I could be one of them. Donation made.

    Future

    The only race that I'm currently signed up to is the Connemara Half, rescheduled for September 27. 22 weeks from now - I've done the maths so you don't have to :pac:
    I'm going to throw this one out to the floor. I'm considering, in four weeks time, restarting the 18 week training plan by John O'Regan that I had been following before having to defer my 2019 entry to this year. If (when?) the race gets put back again, at least I'll have a decent level of fitness built up for other races that might catch my eye in the meantime.
    Thoughts?
    Thanks for reading. Look after yourselves. Stay positive. J.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭career move


    It's always good to have a plan to follow. I find otherwise it's hard to structure your training and you just end up floating around in no man's land, not really achieving anything or improving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,427 ✭✭✭scotindublin


    Great effort this morning J; definitely agree with Career Move above. Go with the plan in 4 weeks time it will focus the mind. The worst that is going to happen is the race is called off but you will have a great training block at least. Maybe even throw in a virtual 1/2 at the end of it.

    C


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭eyrie


    Well done on Saturday J. Glad the two days off left you feeling fresher again.
    I think generally following a half plan is a good idea - they're a good mix of things and nice way to keep things going and keep building.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,964 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Nicely done on Saturday J - I'm so impressed by all the performances that were put forth in a TT setting.

    I'd also agree that it seems like a good idea to follow a plan, especially if it's going to keep you on the straight and narrow, so to speak. A bit of structure always helps, and a half plan should be a good all-rounder.

    On the other side of the coin, 18 weeks is a fair old block, especially with an uncertain target at the end of it, so perhaps it would be easy to lose focus in the middle? Although, I see the plan is broken into stages, so you could just take it one stage at a time in your mind, and re-evaluate as you go?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,601 ✭✭✭Wubble Wubble


    Thanks all :) On I'll go in the general direction of Connemara. More in hope than expectation, obviously. I'm probably more likely to get back to Inishbofin before the summer's out, but we'll see.

    April Review

    Nothing in relation to actual races, of course. However, I've had two virtual races this month (the Castleknock 5k 2k for St Francis Hospice being the other). I really enjoyed the craic on here in relation to the 5k, although it was hard to get much HTFU going for the run itself, starting all alone, at 6:40 AM, on a not particularly fast course.

    It seems like we'll have a few more of these over the coming months. Luckily, both of us have been healthy throughout this period, and both WFH too. I ran on 27 days out of 30 (I took a rest day on Monday) and covered 115 miles, more than in any other month so far this year. Nearly all easy running, with a few sessions thrown in. I bailed out of one yesterday - (800/400 x 3) + WU/CD. I just wasn't feeling the love - even in the warmup I wasn't happy. I got through the first 800/400, but half way through the second 8, I said "f0ck this" and turned around and went home. It just seemed to be self defeating, meaning yes this should help me get faster, but for what? It's 7 AM. I don't know how the likes of shotgunmcos and Lambay island do speed sessions consistently at such ungodly hours.

    For those not following on Strava, I'm continuing my early morning running regimen while the restrictions are in place, although the Phoenix Park may come back into play for me "soon". Regardless of how far down the road we may be as far as lifting of restrictions goes, the same rules still apply in relation to my wife getting sick. FWIW I think we're in for at least another month of the current lockdown (as in no changes to the current restrictions). There doesn't seem to be any exit strategy, other than waiting on the Brits to do something, I suspect. The same Boris and co that most of us have been mocking for the last number of months, particularly in relation to their approach to the pandemic. Of course, I'll be delighted if my prediction turns out to be incorrect. Rightly or wrongly, on my run through the D15 drizzle this morning, the following kept coming into my mind :-

    "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"
    - Wayne Gretzky
    - Michael Scott

    This won't last forever. It can't. Thanks for reading. Look after yourselves. Stay positive. J.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,601 ✭✭✭Wubble Wubble


    May 1-8

    Mostly easy stuff for me so far this month. Last Saturday I tried an old Santry session, with the grass track in Porterstown again the venue. 200m jog, then straight into 600m @3k pace - six of those. Good bit of huffin and puffin at about 8 AM, but at least I finished this session - times roughly in the 2:20-2:25 range.

    Otherwise, the Phoenix Park is back on my running radar. On Tuesday morning, I got there early for a lap of the western half. The (Ratra?) road from the Turnstile corner of the grass triangle by the Hole In The Wall, through the roundabout, and down Acres Road to Chapelizod Gate, is for all intents and purposes the outer edge of my 5k radius. A beautiful sunny morning to be able to do it. When I was leaving, at about 7:20, the hordes were already coming down the hill towards White's Gate :D

    Looking forward to the mile TT on the 30th. That said, I'm far from confident of cracking 6 minutes for a mile around the Porterstown grass track, particularly if it's a wet day. I might need to either :-
    (a) wait a bit later than 6:40 AM for my body to wake up,
    (b) run a lap of the parkrun course, or
    (c) do an AMK on it, and have two or three bites at the cherry :pac:

    Health wise we're good here, although there's been the odd sleepless night or two. It's hard to switch off sometimes, although I've had that problem since long before Covid-19 arrived on the scene.

    One thing a few of the work gang have organised lately is what I like to call "Pandemic Poker" - private games online, linked up via PokerStars and Webex.

    I've also been enjoying some more Netflix stuff, having finished Season 5 of Better Call Saul, and I've watched all six episodes to date of "The Last Dance" - very interesting, especially as I still remember watching a lot of those Bulls finals games live in the middle of the night. I also found out today that Jim Gavin got a lot of ideas from coach Phil Jackson. He never had to deal with anyone like Dennis Rodman though :D

    Going forward, it's no surprise that the Irish Runner race series has been canned. I expect DCM 2020 to go the same way, irrespective of how fast or slow our lifting of restrictions turns out to be. FWIW (speaking as someone not medically qualified) our strategy seems from here to be very conservative, certainly when compared to many others in Europe. But who is right and who is wrong? Nobody can say for certain at this stage. Lots of changes (some temporary, some permanent) on the way in relation to traffic in and around Dublin city centre btw.
    As regards races in general, I'm not expecting anything soon, even if the restrictions are lifted ahead of schedule. Connemara would be a bonus - I might run a virtual HM in the Phoeno on the day instead, if I can keep the training going.

    Somebody asked a question on one of the other threads here, along the lines of "If races started again tomorrow, would you take part?"
    Much as I miss them, for the foreseeable I would have to say no (at risk wife). Yes, I ran the Carlingford HM, but at that time there were I think about 10 confirmed cases in Ireland (North and South combined) so in my mind there was a lot less risk involved, but I was still mindful of it.
    Probably I'm better off not thinking too much about what's going on everywhere else, and just concentrating on the here and now. Sun is shining. Weekend is here! Thanks for reading. J.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,768 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Delighted to hear of the proposed changes for College Green and Dame Street. Hopefully the political will will be there to force them through in the face of the inevitable protests from the motorist and retailer lobbies. Although maybe the latter will finally see the light.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭Annie get your Run


    Watching The Last Dance here too, I find it absolutely inspirational. My one and only trip to NYC I was lucky enough to get to a Nicks game in Madison Square Gardens, cycled past United Center in Chicago but never got to a game there. Jordan is definitely an advanced version of human! What strikes me most about it is how decent and hardworking they all seem to be (Piston's aside!!!). Waiting for the next episode to air, tomorrow I think...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    I've lost count of the amount of TV series my wife and I have got through since lockdown. The last dance was recommended but she just wouldn't be into it. Ozark has been a super series. Almost finished it.

    As for the TT. I would not fancy a 6.40am go at a mile.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭healy1835


    would be up against it to break 6:40 at 6:40am :) Last Dance is amazing...there is a LOT more content out there about that period of Jordan's career, some of which paints parts of the doc in a different light. But I suppose to get Jordan on board and access to that footage they had to sacrifice a certain amount.


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