Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

Deleted User wrote: »

How many nurses and doctors do you think died? It’s only a tiny number. You think no nurse or doctor ever died of flu?

Covid has been ridiculously hyped.

Most have already massively backtracked on their early predictions. We had a HSE consultant on boards who thought 250000 Irish could die.

And the media, in the uk at least, has exaggerated the numbers of nurses killed by this. Many times if you read the full article it turns out that the person worked as a nurse 10 years ago, it’s being reported as a nurse dying of covid

nj27 wrote: »

Might be opened on May 18th. You could argue they fit some of these criteria.

"Shops that were previously open in Tier 2 (for example: homeware, opticians, motor, bicycle and repair, office products, electrical, IT, phone sales and repair) can open."

Oh does that mean that ‘Homestore and more’ will open on 18th of May?

stephenjmcd wrote: »

I would quite safely think that if most of his staff arent over the age of 80 or already have underlying conditions then they wont die.

If this person employs say a 20 year old who's fit and healthy I think they should be allowed to work. Why should they lose their job ??

Saying they could die is a bit over the top borderline scaremongering. Think you need some empathy based off your posting records. It's not quite as clear cut as well you've lost your job but your not dead. I could die in a crash on my way to work tomorrow morning, should I give up work ?

That’s the thing. But it’s hard to reason when people just think that only for the fact we locked down we were all going to die!

I wonder how our testing turnaround times etc are coming along, sure what difference does the likes of that make, it’s all about the lockdown

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Quite possibly but if there is another extension I think it would be for 2 weeks.

Your a miserable person every post from you is about extending restrictions.

So in 8 days time what do our numbers need to be at to ease restrictions?

Anyone? Or are we still dealing with the vagueness of as low as possible as a reference point.

Actually what are we measuring, did we get any official guidance on that even?

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the kelt wrote: »

So in 8 days time what do our numbers need to be at to ease restrictions?

Anyone? Or are we still dealing with the vagueness of as low as possible as a reference point.

Actually what are we measuring, did we get any official guidance on that even?

I think they are going with it anyway but slowly over the three weeks. Low hospital admissions and ICU beds occupied for sure. On cases I'd guess well south of 100, maybe 50 or below.

ChikiChiki wrote: »

R number in Germany back up to 1.1. We will see over the coming week what this means.

Maybe our slow reopening approach might prove the most sensible.

There was a really good explainer I saw of the difference between 1.0 and 1.1 on Ireland's figures that was really stark.

It has a huge impact on spread and ultimately hospital rates. I'll see if I can find it.

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

There is a nasty undertone to some of the messages here which is hard to understand really.

But each to their own.

Everyone wants the same thing in the end and for the country to come out of this in as good a shape as possible.

It's how you define shape & how you take into account long term consequences. Lives saved from Covid have to be balanced against lives lost due to no health screening etc. A lot of doctors appear to be more concerned about the latter.

Was just in town (Cork city) and it was like a normal Sunday. There was people everywhere, walking about drinking coffee and sat on benches and in the park eating takeaway food from the local cafes and restaurants.

I go to Dunnes in there weekly to do my shopping, usually the clothing/homeware section is completely sectioned off and you can only access the grocery section.
Not today, all 3 floors open. I went into Boots and previously you couldn’t access the makeup/perfume or baby clothing sections, only the necessities & pharmacy was available but not any more.
All sections were open to the public.

There is going to be uproar if Dunnes & Boots are allowed to trade from their clothing/homeware departments and other retail stores are being forced to wait months to open.
If the government won’t accommodate them I can see them opening up of their own accord.
Other businesses are already finding ways around the restrictions as it is, and more will do the same when they see the unfairness of some stores being allowed to trade when they’re expected to stay closed.

It’s over lads, I didn’t believe it till today but it’s clear now. The amount of people around proves it.
The fear & terror that was keeping people cooped up in their homes is gone.

Deleted User wrote: »

The thing is, we’ve had situations like this before were a really bad flu season wipes out a lot of elderly people.

We just didn’t go into lockdown. And there wasn’t all the constant scaremongering in the media/social media.

There was probably even a strain of Covid here since last year. We just carried on through it.

This whole thing is just people getting hysterical over a mild illness.

Yes, a lot, but never this many. COVID has killed more people in a few weeks than any year of infleunza on record, and thats with a huge lockdown that halted infection the last month
https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/media/pressrel/annualseasonalfluvaccinationcampaign%20.html
HSE says potentially 1000 deaths in a very severe flu outbreak, and thats over a whole year. So it has already exceeded a worst case scenario flu event by 50% despite countless measures in place such as cocooning and youre still comparing them to one another.

And it may have been here a while ago, who knows, but regardless of when it did it still didnt spread widely. Very few europeans have antibodies, so there was no epidemic of any note before March, and that is why we 'got on with it', becaue it wasnt here!

Youre comlaining about scare mongering but youre going the other extreme, completely minimising a valid and serious public health concern by comparing it to known milder seasonal illness