Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

Speakerboxx · 09-05-2020 06:54PM

Gloria Swift Groundhog wrote: »

A chance of what? Surely the 18th is a certainty. Tony can hardly keep delaying things forever.

The less they leave Tony say now the better. If he gor his way we never open up the country.

Boggles · 09-05-2020 06:54PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You do realise that your phone tracks everywhere you go? It knows where people live, and tracks where they go.

No, my phone absolutely doesn't.

iamwhoiam · 09-05-2020 06:54PM

fullstop wrote: »

So what if they are. People arent supposed to be having visitors over. We’ve got to where we are by people having some modicum of respect for the temporary rules. Why should some of us continue to follow them while others head off for a piss up in their neighbour’s?

Well even Tony Holohan knew full well that a lockdown will only last 5 weeks or so
Its now 7 weeks and they know full well that the last two weeks will be a trickle of people out and about
My guess is it is purposely done to let people out slowly to gauge the effect
They knew full well that once 5 weeks is up people would start to break the rules
I agree a piss up in a garden with a crowd should not be happening but seeing family from 2 metres in a front garden on chairs was actually bound to happen in these weeks

Boggles · 09-05-2020 06:56PM

Stheno wrote: »

I think they originally said they wanted most people to comply with most of the guidelines

They were never expecting 100% compliance all of the time

I never suggested 100% would comply.

But from what I am seeing and hearing is compliance is well down since last Friday week.

Judging by what others have said on here I'm not alone.

It was Tony who said 5-10% acting the bollix and R0 goes back up.

JoChervil · 09-05-2020 06:59PM

boardise wrote: »

Exactly.
When something is 'proved' -then it is 'proven'.
We say 'a proven fact' - not 'a proved fact'
Similarly , when something has been 'loaded' - it is then 'laden'.

And your problem is...?

fritzelly · 09-05-2020 06:59PM

Onesea wrote: »

Blah blah blah, it's aliens, blah blah blah

There isn't the words to reply to this

JoChervil · 09-05-2020 07:03PM

Speakerboxx wrote: »

We will be opening. Full stop.

I believe it too.

I am an optimist and there is a big chance it may be seasonal and die out for the summer to return in the autumn.

Stheno · 09-05-2020 07:11PM

DubInMeath wrote: »

TLDR: Some people are off their meds.

Ah here you've got it wrong

Some people dont takes there meds as it's a form of government mind control :pac:

ChelseaRentBoy · 09-05-2020 07:38PM

From the pictures and videos doing the rounds on social media from around Dublin today there is now no chance we see the opening up phases brought forward. If anything lockdown will now have to be extended further thanks to the amount of self centred halfwits in this country.

Jizique · 09-05-2020 07:41PM

branie2 wrote: »

RIP, the 18 people who died

What ages? How many 80 or above? How many with underlying conditions?
IT had a piece in 17 or 19 victims today; very sad and all but it seems all had a good and full life, with one being 99, and there were underlying conditions.
They need to be much more open about what is really going on with respect to ages, underlying conditions and issues like obesity.

ACitizenErased · 09-05-2020 07:41PM

Boggles wrote: »

No, my phone absolutely doesn't.

I hate to break it to you but having a sim card in a phone allows you to be tracked. Not really sure how this is news.

fritzelly · 09-05-2020 07:41PM

ChelseaRentBoy wrote: »

From the pictures and videos doing the rounds on social media from around Dublin today there is now no chance we see the opening up phases brought forward. If anything lockdown will now have to be extended further thanks to the amount of self centred halfwits in this country.

Hmmm, popped out to the local shop this afternoon and there was a lot of people about, about as busy as a normal Saturday

robbiezero · 09-05-2020 07:43PM

ChelseaRentBoy wrote: »

From the pictures and videos doing the rounds on social media from around Dublin today there is now no chance we see the opening up phases brought forward. If anything lockdown will now have to be extended further thanks to the amount of self centred halfwits in this country.

Yes. I think the criteria is that we need to get to less than 25 pictures daily on twitter of people not obeying the restrictions in order to move to the next phase.

What Username Guidelines · 09-05-2020 07:52PM

JoChervil wrote: »

I believe it too.

I am an optimist and there is a big chance it may be seasonal and die out for the summer to return in the autumn.

Maybe, I’d hope so too. I’m a bit confused about so many assuming this will just be around for years or forever and we have to live with it. Has any previous pandemic been like this? It seems like even during the Spanish flu that the waves lasted less than 4/5 months in each location before dying off. I’m not sure why they do or how it goes “into the background” only to resurge much later.

Even Spain with some non essential services back working from mid April is still heavily declining in cases. Also, something below from Italy...

Coronavirus appears to be weakening, says Italian scientist

Professor Giuseppe Remuzzi, Director of the Mario Negri Institute for Pharmacological Research in Milan believes that the coronavirus has become weaker in recent weeks or at the least the situation is not as serious as it was a month ago.

"The patients we are seeing now are completely different to the ones we saw three to four weeks ago, less are being admitted to intensive care or need to remain in hospital," Remuzzi said today. "Before, around 80 people would arrive at Accident and Emergency - all with serious breathing difficulties; now it is around 10 and out of them, eight are well enough to be sent home. We don't know if the virus has changed or the viral load in each patient is less".

https://en.as.com/en/2020/05/09/other_sports/1589002134_273677.amp.html

maebee · 09-05-2020 07:59PM

Bad and all as our minority is in breaking the restrictions, I very much doubt you'd see anything like this in Ireland today. Some of those photos are horrifying.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8303043/What-lockdown-Britains-parks-packed-sunworshippers-amid-79F-heat.html

Boggles · 09-05-2020 08:02PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I hate to break it to you but having a sim card in a phone allows you to be tracked. Not really sure how this is news.

That's not what said is it?

You said my phone knows where I live and I can be tracked exactly where I go.

It doesn't and it can't.

What you pivoted onto is cell triangulation, which is not accurate enough to tell if I have nipped over to the neighbors for a BBQ.

Also Doctor Tony ain't getting that information unless he has a "warrant".

"Not really sure how this is news"

bloodless_coup · 09-05-2020 08:04PM

maebee wrote: »

Bad and all as our minority is in breaking the restrictions, I very much doubt you'd see anything like this in Ireland today. Some of those photos are horrifying.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8303043/What-lockdown-Britains-parks-packed-sunworshippers-amid-79F-heat.html

I'm horrified by your hyperbole.

What Username Guidelines · 09-05-2020 08:05PM

maebee wrote: »

Bad and all as our minority is in breaking the restrictions, I very much doubt you'd see anything like this in Ireland today. Some of those photos are horrifying.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8303043/What-lockdown-Britains-parks-packed-sunworshippers-amid-79F-heat.html#comments

Be careful with long lens photos

https://twitter.com/joe_co_uk/status/1255086905437413376?s=21

polesheep · 09-05-2020 08:08PM

maebee wrote: »

Bad and all as our minority is in breaking the restrictions, I very much doubt you'd see anything like this in Ireland today. Some of those photos are horrifying.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8303043/What-lockdown-Britains-parks-packed-sunworshippers-amid-79F-heat.html

I don't see any lapses in social distancing in any of those pictures. As a trained photographer, however, I do see clever use of lenses to get the right picture for the agenda.;)

igCorcaigh · 09-05-2020 08:17PM

Infini wrote: »

Pretty much a crystallisation of all the stupidity and idiocy in the states in one group! Even "blessed bleach" is in there! XD

Ah, so that explains Trumps disinfectant comments LOL!

DevilsHaircut · 09-05-2020 08:29PM

An interesting paper estimating the level of under-reporting in a long list of countries.

The result for Ireland is that we could have 7-8 times more (symptomatic) cases than are reported.

https://cmmid.github.io/topics/covid19/global_cfr_estimates.html

wadacrack · 09-05-2020 08:34PM

This was reported in the UK earlier this week also

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1259168786105675776

igCorcaigh · 09-05-2020 08:36PM

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

An interesting paper estimating the level of under-reporting in a long list of countries.

The result for Ireland is that we could have 7-8 times more (symptomatic) cases than are reported.

https://cmmid.github.io/topics/covid19/global_cfr_estimates.html

Meaning an attack rate of about 3.5% of the population. Seems reasonable.

Carbon125 · 09-05-2020 08:39PM

These Photos Show How Easy it is to Create ‘Fake News’ with Photography.
Lots of paired photos of the same scene, one taken with a telephoto lens, the other with a wide angle and from a different perspective.

Speak Now · 09-05-2020 08:39PM

French, Spanish and Italia numbers must be well on the downward curve now as no one has posted numbers today.

igCorcaigh · 09-05-2020 08:39PM

wadacrack wrote: »

This was reported in the UK earlier this week also

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1259168786105675776

And here too, (either NI or ROI, not sure which)

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/medics-alerted-about-rare-child-illness-perhaps-related-to-covid-19-1.4240394

DevilsHaircut · 09-05-2020 08:41PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Meaning an attack rate of about 3.5% of the population. Seems reasonable.

Although there would be additional asymptomatic cases (TBH I don't understand that aspect of the model).

Charles Babbage · 09-05-2020 08:48PM

wakka12 wrote: »

I thnik the stat is more to show that twice as many men that age are meeting people outside of their household than women, rather than blaming the age group

Many young men engage in snti-social actions, that should win a social science prize.

What Username Guidelines · 09-05-2020 08:50PM

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

An interesting paper estimating the level of under-reporting in a long list of countries.

The result for Ireland is that we could have 7-8 times more (symptomatic) cases than are reported.

https://cmmid.github.io/topics/covid19/global_cfr_estimates.html

I’ve looked at so many different graphs in the last two months that show all kinds of predictions from London rate dropping due to herd immunity already vs Madrid being 1% infected, etc. I find the ones I believe more are the ones that give potential good news, might be a bias

Away With The Fairies · 09-05-2020 08:54PM

wadacrack wrote: »

This was reported in the UK earlier this week also

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1259168786105675776

This is awful

Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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