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Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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  • #1892
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Keep up the wishful thinking!

    The number of new cases is just too high and needs to fall significantly in to the low tens for us to have a chance.

    As of now, today with those figures, we can't realistically open.

    You have to live with it, not beat it. Let it get through the polulation and be done with it.

    The way Ireland is tackling it, you beat it, then unlock the lockdown new cases occur then what.. The inevitable just get on with it.


  • #1893
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    How many of the "new cases" knew they had it


  • #1894
    Sanjuro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    Onesea wrote: »
    https://altcensored.com/?fbclid=IwAR3EO7xPryocPVaQgbhL1GngthAQAhK0IdC0t3GvVPIaPQpLfEASJJ8tPLI


    .. Next up you will need a phone to move about, and you Wil need to have the vaccine or risk being sidelined by society..

    David Icke?! LOL! Log off, pal.


  • #1895
    fullstop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,789 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Onesea wrote: »
    How many of the "new cases" knew they had it

    4.


  • #1896
    0gac3yjefb5sv7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,947 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Keep up the wishful thinking!

    The number of new cases is just too high and needs to fall significantly in to the low tens for us to have a chance.

    As of now, today with those figures, we can't realistically open.

    A chance of what? Surely the 18th is a certainty. Tony can hardly keep delaying things forever.


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  • #1897
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Gloria Swift Groundhog wrote: »
    You'd have to wonder where these people can be still getting it.

    You can look no further than here.

    There are posters panicked about risks to the economy and their livelihoods yet what are they doing?

    They are telling people to ignore the rules, that it's no big deal.

    That's the mentality you are dealing with and that gets us in trouble in the end.

    The measures are there for a reason.


  • #1898
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,094 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Onesea wrote: »
    You have to live with it, not beat it. Let it get through the polulation and be done with it.

    The way Ireland is tackling it, you beat it, then unlock the lockdown new cases occur then what.. The inevitable just get on with it.

    Christ almighty! The whole point of the restrictions is completely lost on you. You want an overwhelmed health service so you can get on with your 'normal'. You need to get used to the idea of a new normal going forward.


  • #1899
    Lundstram
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Lundstram


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Keep up the wishful thinking!

    The number of new cases is just too high and needs to fall significantly in to the low tens for us to have a chance.

    As of now, today with those figures, we can't realistically open.
    We can and we will. Life has to go on.


  • #1900
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    Sanjuro wrote: »
    David Icke?! LOL! Log off, pal.

    And a few thousand doctors..


  • #1901
    branie2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    RIP, the 18 people who died


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  • #1902
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    You can look no further than here.

    There are posters panicked about risks to the economy and their livelihoods yet what are they doing?

    They are telling people to ignore the rules, that it's no big deal.

    That's the mentality you are dealing with and that gets us in trouble in the end.

    The measures are there for a reason.

    So nothing to do with the mass testing of the mental health sector firstly staff then patients which started late in the week,also workersi n meat processing plants across the country are been tested.
    Blame the community when we have a break down of the numbers.


  • #1903
    mean gene
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭mean gene


    Community in ireland has been great with this besides neanthertals you just can't do anything with them


  • #1904
    Vudgie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 869 ✭✭✭Vudgie


    My neighbours have been drinking all day in their back garden with their friends, pretty infuriating given the effort that everyone is making.


  • #1905
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    You can look no further than here.

    There are posters panicked about risks to the economy and their livelihoods yet what are they doing?

    They are telling people to ignore the rules, that it's no big deal.

    That's the mentality you are dealing with and that gets us in trouble in the end.

    The measures are there for a reason.

    I think you can have all the measures, it won't help with idiots.


  • #1906
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Keep up the wishful thinking!

    The number of new cases is just too high and needs to fall significantly in to the low tens for us to have a chance.

    As of now, today with those figures, we can't realistically open.

    You must be a troll right? Every single one of your posts is a negative post with no stats to back it up.

    I've added you to my block list...I hope everyone does the same


  • #1907
    An Ciarraioch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    MD1990 wrote: »
    it is one day.

    we are going down each week & are on the right path.
    You are too negative at times.

    Also useful to look at David W Higgins's table showing the progress being made in each county:

    https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1258855023754297346


  • #1908
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Vudgie wrote: »
    My neighbours have been drinking all day in their back garden with their friends, pretty infuriating given the effort that everyone is making.

    Are they 2 metres apart ?


  • #1909
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,418 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Vudgie wrote: »
    My neighbours have been drinking all day in their back garden with their friends, pretty infuriating given the effort that everyone is making.

    Yeah, for some reason since Presidents Leo's last theatrical address. Large cohorts of people have decided it is fine to drink in other people houses as long as they are out the back.

    Not sure how many them would have outhouses though.

    According to Doctor Tony's "surveys" and power point presentations none of that is actually happening.

    Be grand sure!


  • #1910
    Dr. Bre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,839 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Vudgie wrote: »
    My neighbours have been drinking all day in their back garden with their friends, pretty infuriating given the effort that everyone is making.

    Have they corona ?


  • #1911
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Boggles wrote: »
    Yeah, for some reason since Presidents Leo's last theatrical address. Large cohorts of people have decided it is fine to drink in other people houses as long as they are out the back.

    Not sure how many them would have outhouses though.

    According to Doctor Tony's "surveys" and power point presentations none of that is actually happening.

    Be grand sure!

    Dr. Tony's data shows that by and large compliance is being maintained

    Where I live it's not changed much at all the past few weeks


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  • #1912
    Musefan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Musefan


    I’ve a good example of the impact of delays in testing feedback. Family member is in section A of a nursing home, section B is separate. Person tests positive in section B mid April. Nobody in section A with the virus. Testing for everyone introduced then. Family member was tested. One and a half weeks later, the results come back- negative. But someone else in section A comes back positive, so they have been in contact with a positive case unbeknownst to them for 1.5 weeks. A few days later, the family member is taken to hospital, Covid symptomatic. Tests positive, less than 4 hour turn around. Those 1.5 weeks were crucial.


  • #1913
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,418 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Stheno wrote: »
    Dr. Tony's data shows that by and large compliance is being maintained

    Dr. Tony's data is largely based on surveys.

    Because Nobody ever lies on a survey, especially when they are doing things they shouldn't be doing.

    From what I have seen and have been hearing from others - it's been party time, not everyone but a considerable cohort.

    Remember it only takes 5-10% of people to act the bollix.


  • #1914
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Boggles wrote: »
    Dr. Tony's data is largely based on surveys.

    Because Nobody ever lies on a survey, especially when they are doing things they shouldn't be doing.

    From what I have seen and have been hearing from others - it's been party time, not everyone but a considerable cohort.

    Remember it only takes 5-10% of people to act the bollix.

    His data is based on Google, Apple and National Transport Authority movement reports.


  • #1915
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,418 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    His data is based on Google, Apple and National Transport Authority movement reports.

    Some of his Data is.

    A lot of the behavioral data is based on phone surveys.

    Did you go to a BBQ this week in your neighbors?

    - Erm, ah, No.

    Google, Apple or the NTA wouldn't have a scooby. Unless they started analyzing messages.


  • #1916
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Boggles wrote: »
    Some of his Data is.

    A lot of the behavioral data is based on phone surveys.

    Did you go to a BBQ this week in your neighbors?

    - Erm, ah, No.

    Google, Apple or the NTA wouldn't have a scooby. Unless they started analyzing messages.

    You do realise that your phone tracks everywhere you go? It knows where people live, and tracks where they go.


  • #1917
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    His data is based on Google, Apple and National Transport Authority movement reports.

    And monitoring ATM activity


  • #1918
    fullstop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,789 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Are they 2 metres apart ?

    So what if they are. People arent supposed to be having visitors over. We’ve got to where we are by people having some modicum of respect for the temporary rules. Why should some of us continue to follow them while others head off for a piss up in their neighbour’s?


  • #1919
    nacho libre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,604 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    You must be a troll right? Every single one of your posts is a negative post with no stats to back it up.

    I've added you to my block list...I hope everyone does the same

    Even if kermit the frog is right, which i don't think he is based on the current icu stats and the growth of new cases being less than 2 per cent for the last 10 days, you'll find Leo won't be led by the science now, if Tony were to say the criteria is not being met to ease restrictions on May 18th. It's politically unsustainable for Leo to be led by the science.


  • #1920
    Speakerboxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Speakerboxx


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Keep up the wishful thinking!

    The number of new cases is just too high and needs to fall significantly in to the low tens for us to have a chance.

    As of now, today with those figures, we can't realistically open.

    We will be opening. Full stop.


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  • #1921
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Boggles wrote: »
    Dr. Tony's data is largely based on surveys.

    Because Nobody ever lies on a survey, especially when they are doing things they shouldn't be doing.

    From what I have seen and have been hearing from others - it's been party time, not everyone but a considerable cohort.

    Remember it only takes 5-10% of people to act the bollix.

    I think they originally said they wanted most people to comply with most of the guidelines

    They were never expecting 100% compliance all of the time


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