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Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,283 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    hmmm wrote: »
    There's a lot of scientists pushing for aging to be reclassified as a disease. We accept aging and death as "normal" because we have had no choice, but as we begin to understand what causes aging it becomes something we can potentially fix. Aging suddenly becomes the leading cause of death ( :) ).

    The scientists who are attempting to "fight" aging are not trying to keep people alive for hundreds of years, but argue it should be perfectly possible to keep a person in good health until they are close to passing away (which is a laudable aim).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,703 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    GM228 wrote: »
    Aging is a disease? :confused:

    Mmmmm...I don't know what that is supposed to mean.

    Aging is a natural condition that everyone and everything is subject too. It's not a "disease". It's not "treatable" either.

    Not sure what that guy is on about there. He may have a point in there somewhere, but it's badly made.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Interview with the director of the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, who contracted it.

    Key paragraph for me - "Many people think COVID-19 kills 1% of patients, and the rest get away with some flu like symptoms. But the story gets more complicated. Many people will be left with chronic kidney and heart problems. Even their neural system is disrupted. There will be hundreds of thousands of people worldwide, possibly more, who will need treatments such as renal dialysis for the rest of their lives."

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/finally-virus-got-me-scientist-who-fought-ebola-and-hiv-reflects-facing-death-covid-19

    Obviously raises questions about long-term morbidity as a result.

    Can't someone who recovered from polio get what's called post-polio syndrome? It's basically a weakening of muscles but it's not contagious.

    Who knows what this will mean for us in the future. Post-covid syndrome?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    Can't someone who recovered from polio get what's called post-polio syndrome? It's basically a weakening of muscles but it's not contagious.

    Who knows what this will mean for us in the future. Post-covid syndrome?

    Its a corona virus. That's just it. Go take your head from the sand and look at the stats. In one year the country around you will be unrecognizable due to the poverty..you won't remember covid but you Wil remember the politicians you once trusted


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,207 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Onesea wrote: »
    Its a corona virus. That's just it. Go take your head from the sand and look at the stats. In one year the country around you will be unrecognizable due to the poverty..you won't remember covid but you Wil remember the politicians you once trusted

    Poverty?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭JoChervil


    hmmm wrote: »
    No it wasn't "proven", this isn't Facebook. We still don't know enough about the disease, the mechanisms behind it, and what course of treatments is correct. Most very severe patients are still put on ventilators, and other approaches are being tested.

    We still don't know a lot, yet also a lot was gained from treatments up to date.

    Your usage of a word "Facebook" doesn't prove anything.

    BTW "Proved is the simple past tense and past participle of the verb prove, which means to show evidence for something. Proven is the adjective form of this word, and can be used as a past participle in some instances. Most places prefer proved as a past participle and proven as an adjective."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,499 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    wakka12 wrote:
    50% of men aged 19-24 in the UK have met somebody they dont live with during the lockdown, 25% of women the same age
    Lots of two-timing women over there it seems!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,438 ✭✭✭VonLuck




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭JoChervil


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Lots of two-timing women over there it seems!!!

    They didn't have to meet people of the same age, even of the same sex...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Italy reports 1,083 new cases and 194 new deaths bringing total confirmed cases there to 218,268 and 30,395 total deaths.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Onesea wrote: »
    Its a corona virus. That's just it. Go take your head from the sand and look at the stats. In one year the country around you will be unrecognizable due to the poverty..you won't remember covid but you Wil remember the politicians you once trusted

    I was replying to a post about what happens after infection. And here you are more concerned about the economy and we should all get fcuked to save the economy. Ah sure, it's only mild symptoms. Yet nobody knows what it can do in the future.

    Post-viral complications do occur. Fatigue seems to be very common after a viral infection.

    Polio is a viral disease that causes weakening of the muscles and in some complete paralysis. Then for those that do recover, they may get post-viral polio. A milder version of polio but not contagious.

    Here's something that can happen after a measles infection, SSPE or Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis, it is rare but can happen, it's a brain disorder that appears months or years after a measles infection and causes mental deterioration, muscle jerks, and seizures.

    Shingles can happen after the chicken pox infection as well.

    Nobody knows what kind of complications this will bring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    VonLuck wrote: »
    Where are the stats for the other age groups? Sounds like they're trying to point blame at 19-24 year olds.

    I thnik the stat is more to show that twice as many men that age are meeting people outside of their household than women, rather than blaming the age group


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,530 ✭✭✭boardise


    JoChervil wrote: »
    We still don't know a lot, yet also a lot was gained from treatments up to date.

    Your usage of a word "Facebook" doesn't prove anything.

    BTW "Proved is the simple past tense and past participle of the verb prove, which means to show evidence for something. Proven is the adjective form of this word, and can be used as a past participle in some instances. Most places prefer proved as a past participle and proven as an adjective."

    Exactly.
    When something is 'proved' -then it is 'proven'.
    We say 'a proven fact' - not 'a proved fact'
    Similarly , when something has been 'loaded' - it is then 'laden'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    I was replying to a post about what happens after infection. And here you are more concerned about the economy and we should all get fcuked to save the economy. Ah sure, it's only mild symptoms. Yet nobody knows what it can do in the future.

    Post-viral complications do occur. Fatigue seems to be very common after a viral infection.

    Polio is a viral disease that causes weakening of the muscles and in some complete paralysis. Then for those that do recover, they may get post-viral polio. A milder version of polio but not contagious.

    Here's something that can happen after a measles infection, SSPE or Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis, it is rare but can happen, it's a brain disorder that appears months or years after a measles infection and causes mental deterioration, muscle jerks, and seizures.

    Shingles can happen after the chicken pox infection as well.

    Nobody knows what kind of complications this will bring.

    Many will have complications, many May have complications. Vast vast majority will have this and not notice, a thin top layer of people will die, they are the be old and ill.
    Mashed up stats to suit anyone's wishes. Compare state news outlets from different countries, then go look at how each country is performing economically..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    18 deaths and 219 new cases.

    The start of the increased community testing results I would imagine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Interesting to note that Northern Ireland have begun denotification deaths where the person does not die within 28 days of a positive lab confirmed death (the first such denotification was made today), I wonder how many 28+ day deaths have not been recorded in the first place, there is currently no definitive time frame on death reporting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    18 deaths and 219 new cases.

    The start of the increased community testing results I would imagine.

    18 deaths where? In homes in hospitals, young old ill?
    How many other deaths were recorded in the day... It's all lies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Onesea wrote: »
    18 deaths where? In homes in hospitals, young old ill?
    How many other deaths were recorded in the day... It's all lies

    How is it lies?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    18 deaths and 219 new cases.

    The start of the increased community testing results I would imagine.

    New cases still holding steady at a 1% daily increase 6 days in a row now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭Allinall


    GM228 wrote: »
    New cases still holding steady at a 1% daily increase 6 days in a row now.

    I would have thought the number of active cases must be dropping as well.

    All seems to be heading the right direction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    GM228 wrote: »
    New cases still holding steady at a 1% daily increase 6 days in a row now.

    Yup, if there isn't a major increase next week after the criteria being relaxed this week then we'll be doing quite well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,610 ✭✭✭shocksy


    Onesea wrote: »
    18 deaths where? In homes in hospitals, young old ill?
    How many other deaths were recorded in the day... It's all lies

    You know you are delusional right????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


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    .. Next up you will need a phone to move about, and you Wil need to have the vaccine or risk being sidelined by society..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Onesea wrote: »
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    .. Next up you will need a phone to move about, and you Wil need to have the vaccine or risk being sidelined by society..

    That’s just lies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Increase in cases because of testing change I imagine. Not too much concern we’re on the right path.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    18 deaths and 219 new cases.

    The start of the increased community testing results I would imagine.

    Keep up the wishful thinking!

    The number of new cases is just too high and needs to fall significantly in to the low tens for us to have a chance.

    As of now, today with those figures, we can't realistically open.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,947 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    It's been above 200 cases for the most part for a long time now. You'd have to wonder where these people can be still getting it. If this is the case, we may as well reopen up some things soon as there is very little decrease if any.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    Keep up the wishful thinking!

    The number of new cases is just too high and needs to fall significantly in to the low tens for us to have a chance.

    As of now, today with those figures, we can't realistically open.

    it is one day.

    we are going down each week & are on the right path.
    You are too negative at times.


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