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FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

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  • #3092
    JCreaghy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 ✭JCreaghy


    If they're doing predictive grades for the leaving cert would they do it for those who only had one exam left?


  • #3093
    L.E.D
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭L.E.D


    Is it possible to get manuals without doing the courses? Didn't do great last sitting and hoping it will improve if I have manuals , thanks


  • #3094
    Darragh12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 ✭Darragh12


    Hi all. I'm thinking of doing the preparatory courses for equity and constitutional. Would anyone in particular recommend one over the other? From looking at the course outlines online they all look pretty similar. I was leaning toward Griffith since that's the one I've heard the most about people using.


  • #3095
    ElmoLaw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭ElmoLaw


    Darragh12 wrote: »
    Hi all. I'm thinking of doing the preparatory courses for equity and constitutional. Would anyone in particular recommend one over the other? From looking at the course outlines online they all look pretty similar. I was leaning toward Griffith since that's the one I've heard the most about people using.




    are you doing them this summer? apparently Griffith cant print out manuals. id find it hard to work off just my laptop with no hard copy notes printed out so im looking for a provider that can actually print out the manuals. its annoying also as they are charging the same fees as normal and providing half the services - no access to library, no hard copy manuals - they should at least offer discounted rates.


  • #3096
    Darragh12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 ✭Darragh12


    ElmoLaw wrote: »
    are you doing them this summer? apparently Griffith cant print out manuals. id find it hard to work off just my laptop with no hard copy notes printed out so im looking for a provider that can actually print out the manuals. its annoying also as they are charging the same fees as normal and providing half the services - no access to library, no hard copy manuals - they should at least offer discounted rates.

    Yeah still in two minds about it. Especially since they haven't even given a provisional date for the next sitting so starting studying now might be in vain. If I was doing it I would prefer a paper copy of the manual as well since as my notes are usually handwritten sample answer style ones.


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  • #3097
    Supermax1988
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭Supermax1988


    L.E.D wrote: »
    Is it possible to get manuals without doing the courses? Didn't do great last sitting and hoping it will improve if I have manuals , thanks

    Don’t think you get new ones directly from the colleges but there’s a lot of second hand ones on Adverts.


  • #3098
    Coulter97
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭Coulter97


    How necessary is it to do expensive preparatory courses if you already did an undergrad law degree and have decent notes?


  • #3099
    Reya10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭Reya10


    For anyone worried about having most/all FE1s completed and not having a TC yet, I know people who did all 8 first and then got TCs almost immediately after! I know it'll be harder finding one at the moment with everything that's going on but I don't think anyone is going to end up in a situation where they have the exams done and can't get a TC at all


  • #3100
    Reya10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭Reya10


    Coulter97 wrote: »
    How necessary is it to do expensive preparatory courses if you already did an undergrad law degree and have decent notes?

    Really not necessary- get the manuals secondhand and some sample answers and exam papers and you'll be fine


  • #3101
    Coulter97
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭Coulter97


    Reya10 wrote: »
    Really not necessary- get the manuals secondhand and some sample answers and exam papers and you'll be fine

    Ah thanks. After paying for a 4 year degree it would hurt to shell out again for preparatory courses lol


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  • #3102
    igobuy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32 ✭igobuy


    Waiting for Leo’s leaving cert announcement as I think it will have a knock affect on whether or not the law society will run the two outstanding FE-1 exams


  • #3103
    igobuy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32 ✭igobuy


    Leaving cert cancelled and predictive grades for students......law society should do the same for the remaining two FE-1s


  • #3104
    Coulter97
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭Coulter97


    igobuy wrote: »
    Leaving cert cancelled and predictive grades for students......law society should do the same for the remaining two FE-1s

    How do you get predicted grades for Fe-1's when you haven't done them before?


  • #3105
    BlackhallPlz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 ✭BlackhallPlz


    Coulter97 wrote: »
    How do you get predicted grades for Fe-1's when you haven't done them before?

    Lots of people have done some or most of them and are waiting on Tort and EU to be rescheduled/ a decision to be made so that they can still make ppc1 in September. The Law Soc have a huge call to make for those students


  • #3106
    Coulter97
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭Coulter97


    BlackhallPlz wrote: »
    Lots of people have done some or most of them and are waiting on Tort and EU to be rescheduled/ a decision to be made so that they can still make ppc1 in September. The Law Soc have a huge call to make for those students

    They've done other subjects in the Fe-1's presumably, not the one in question. In the LC the predicted grade for English is going to be based on attainment of English over the last 2 years, not another subject entirely. You're asking the Law Society to pass people in EU law because they got Con Law 6 months ago?


  • #3107
    igobuy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32 ✭igobuy


    Coulter97 wrote: »
    How do you get predicted grades for Fe-1's when you haven't done them before?


    The law society have to make a decision in the interests of candidates. These exams can’t go online because there not geared towards online assessment there not open books exams for a reason.

    There are students today who won’t be happy with predictive grades for the LC but the reality is this virus can’t stop people from achieving there careers. And predictive grades is the fairer option based on students previous performances in the FE-1 exams.

    There are candidates waiting on these two exams in order to start there training contracts in September not to mention the many hundreds of candidates who had study for EU and tort only for them to be cancelled.


  • #3108
    Coulter97
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭Coulter97


    igobuy wrote: »
    The law society have to make a decision in the interests of candidates. These exams can’t go online because there not geared towards online assessment there not open books exams for a reason.

    There are students today who won’t be happy with predictive grades for the LC but the reality is this virus can’t stop people from achieving there careers. And predictive grades is the fairer option based on students previous performances in the FE-1 exams.

    There are candidates waiting on these two exams in order to start there training contracts in September not to mention the many hundreds of candidates who had study for EU and tort only for them to be cancelled.

    That's not 'predicted grades' - you're just asking the Law Society to pass people based on a subject they haven't done before.

    Either way, fairness aside, I think the big firms might end up lobbying the Law Society to pass those people so they can get their batch of trainees to come in September.


  • #3109
    mmullen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 ✭mmullen


    Coulter97 wrote: »
    How necessary is it to do expensive preparatory courses if you already did an undergrad law degree and have decent notes?

    Wouldn’t bother tbh, I paid so much for three subjects with Griffith (did dit course so had never done these before) and in the end just used the manuals and exam papers and grids, all of which you can get on adverts. It’s really a question of just learning what is in the manuals which you can do yourself!


  • #3110
    igobuy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32 ✭igobuy


    Coulter97 wrote: »
    That's not 'predicted grades' - you're just asking the Law Society to pass people based on a subject they haven't done before.

    Either way, fairness aside, I think the big firms might end up lobbying the Law Society to pass those people so they can get their batch of trainees to come in September.

    What your suggesting is basically the same thing only phrased differently which I don’t disagree with


  • #3111
    igobuy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32 ✭igobuy


    Has anyone actually received there results in the post? Or are they not positing them out.


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  • #3112
    ElmoLaw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭ElmoLaw


    Darragh12 wrote: »
    Yeah still in two minds about it. Especially since they haven't even given a provisional date for the next sitting so starting studying now might be in vain. If I was doing it I would prefer a paper copy of the manual as well since as my notes are usually handwritten sample answer style ones.


    good news just found out that city colleges is doing hard copy manuals so this would sway me to pick them over any of the others as think its important if you are going to fork over so much money to do the prep course you should have a proper hard copy manual to review.


  • #3113
    claiomh solais
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭claiomh solais


    Reya10 wrote: »
    For anyone worried about having most/all FE1s completed and not having a TC yet, I know people who did all 8 first and then got TCs almost immediately after! I know it'll be harder finding one at the moment with everything that's going on but I don't think anyone is going to end up in a situation where they have the exams done and can't get a TC at all

    This is true and it happened to me. I was getting interviews before, even making it to the final round sometimes but no luck.

    After I had all 8 in October (2017), I had multiple really good TC offers soon after and was off to Blackhall September 2018.

    8-Fe1s complete makes you "risk-free" for starting blackhall and the firms really like that.


  • #3114
    mmullen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 ✭mmullen


    ElmoLaw wrote: »
    good news just found out that city colleges is doing hard copy manuals so this would sway me to pick them over any of the others as think its important if you are going to fork over so much money to do the prep course you should have a proper hard copy manual to review.

    FYI Griffith post the hard copy manuals out to you once you pay for whatever courses you’re doing. The materials are also available online


  • #3115
    ElmoLaw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭ElmoLaw


    mmullen wrote: »
    FYI Griffith post the hard copy manuals out to you once you pay for whatever courses you’re doing. The materials are also available online


    really? because i have literally been emailing them this week about it and they said as the college is closed they wont be able to print them out for the prep courses this summer. are you referring to how they used to do it in the past...as they cant do it at the moment.


  • #3116
    Coulter97
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭Coulter97


    claiomh solais wrote: »
    This is true and it happened to me. I was getting interviews before, even making it to the final round sometimes but no luck.

    After I had all 8 in October (2017), I had multiple really good TC offers soon after and was off to Blackhall September 2018.

    8-Fe1s complete makes you "risk-free" for starting blackhall and the firms really like that.

    If I'm not mistaken it's seems like a lot of the big firms these days tend to hire their trainee intake from their summer interns. Arthur Cox and MHC pretty much give TC's to all their summer interns. If you want a TC, a summer internship is also a very good bet these days


  • #3117
    mmullen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 ✭mmullen


    ElmoLaw wrote: »
    really? because i have literally been emailing them this week about it and they said as the college is closed they wont be able to print them out for the prep courses this summer. are you referring to how they used to do it in the past...as they cant do it at the moment.

    Oh apologies, I was referring to last year when I did it!


  • #3118
    ElmoLaw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭ElmoLaw


    mmullen wrote: »
    Oh apologies, I was referring to last year when I did it!


    No problem!! thanks for the help.


  • #3119
    Law000
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 17 ✭Law000


    Does anyone have the Tort paper for the October sitting 2019? Cheers.


  • #3120
    Lawgrad101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 ✭Lawgrad101


    Sorry if this has already been asked but has it been confirmed that we are going to be receive our exam papers before the 15th (the deadline to apply for rechecks)?


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  • #3121
    Bex20
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11 ✭Bex20


    Lawgrad101 wrote: »
    Sorry if this has already been asked but has it been confirmed that we are going to be receive our exam papers before the 15th (the deadline to apply for rechecks)?

    I emailed asking this and they said as the office is closed it will take longer to do the GDPR requests. So I would take that as a no. Which is annoying because we can’t view them but they still want €115 for the recheck


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