Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

JoChervil · 07-05-2020 05:26PM

Arghus wrote: »

It's amazing isn't it?

It was as clear as day and yet you've still got a few who don't accept what happened.

I beginning to think they work for "The Western Press".

It's amazing isn't it?

He refused to hear her and yet you've still got a few who don't accept what happened.

Why I don't cast such insults? Because I have valid points maybe?

What Username Guidelines · 07-05-2020 05:27PM

Arghus wrote: »

Surely the fact that it suddenly blew up around the world in Febuary and March shows that it wasn't present before then and that people who are claiming to have had it back in December in January didn't.

Absolutely. Still interesting the French found a historical case from December, tested twice I believe.

I'm not even sure what it does mean if it's been around for months, why it would be a positive, it's still blowing up now anyway.

stephenjmcd · 07-05-2020 05:28PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I genuinely believe it. These people are on the front line. It'd be easy to compare symptoms for them.

I would as well. 2 family members working in Dublin hospitals both convinced they had patients with it in late December early January. One a nurse 20 years and says she's never seen so many people with supposed bad doses of the flu, symptoms nearly identical to what they're treating now.

One of my own parents had the vast majority of symptoms in February but no test as is was only still being talked about here and he hadn't been to Italy. Doctor said she would have sent him for one but couldn't because of the travel element. We'll be looking for anti body tests whenever they become available.

petes · 07-05-2020 05:28PM

JoChervil wrote: »

It's amazing isn't it?

He refused to hear her and yet you've still got a few who don't accept what happened.

Why I don't cast such insults? Because I have valid points maybe?

For someone who didn't watch it all you've an awful lot to say about it....

ArchXStanton · 07-05-2020 05:29PM

Arghus wrote: »

Surely the fact that it suddenly blew up around the world in Febuary and March shows that it wasn't present before then and that people who are claiming to have had it back in December in January didn't.

I hope they randomly test people or people who think they might have had it here for antibodies to see if this was floating around before the first official case.

stephenjmcd · 07-05-2020 05:30PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Absolutely. Still interesting the French found a historical case from December, tested twice I believe.

I'm not even sure what it does mean if it's been around for months, why it would be a positive, it's still blowing up now anyway.

The french case was tested for normal flu, came back negative. Swab was frozen along with others and now rechecked and postive for covid. They weren't testing for covid at the time..they've retested the French swab now multiple times according to the doctor who announced it, postive each time.

It could mean this is potentially the 2nd wave but that's an unknown until anti body tests become available and they go back over cases which until now have been "bad doses of the flu" that presented to hospitals over winter and onwards

Arghus · 07-05-2020 05:30PM

political analyst wrote: »

The number of people who have died because of non-Covid surgery not going ahead or because they took their own lives due to mental illness that was aggravated by the lockdown is probably much higher than the Covid death toll.

How do people still persistently not get the basic fact that we've had less death than expected because of the lockdown?

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 07-05-2020 05:32PM

iguana wrote: »

I've had a chest x-ray, ecg and blood tests. I was thinking of enquiring about a chest CT scan next month if I'm still having symptoms. The thing that's keeping me calm is that there are so very many people having the same prolonged experience as me. Many with a positive Covid diagnosis, many who have had the same hospital tests as me with no obvious indication of a long term condition. Many formerly fit people who have relapsed after exercise. I'm not a medical professional but post viral chest inflammation after a virus that's attacked the chest and lungs, triggered by sudden cardiovascular activity, seems like the most obvious reason we're all experiencing this in a pandemic. Which doesn't mean that for at least some of us, it's not something else.

I hope I haven’t scared you. You are massively unlikely to have the same thing I have. I’ve just experienced up close and personal how many doctors think low risk is no risk when it comes to previously healthy young people. So so many people in my position were fobbed of, wasting valuable months that will cost some of us our lives.

Speaking of X-rays. I had one a few months before my diagnosis that showed that my upper spine was misshapen. That would be the bones metastases then. But the doctors were like “That’s probably scoliosis or spondylitis. And your rib pain is probably costacondritis. And that inverted nipple that won’t heal is an infection”. That X-ray also didn’t illuminate my lung problems because it was a diffuse kind of mets known as lymphangitis carcinomatosis.

I was not pushy enough and should have been. I finally, finally find a good GP who so concerned, he rang me at home about my abnormal blood test results and got me in for a CT scan ASAP.

JP Liz V1 · 07-05-2020 05:32PM

So now it could have been here in December

speckle · 07-05-2020 05:33PM

owlbethere wrote: »

I'm just thinking, with the wuhan millitary games in October, and people who attended got sick, surely it would have started spilling over into Italy before it emerged earlier this year? Because Milan has trade connections with wuhan.

And Sweden had ill team members too but they were told they had malaria. Does malaria exist there?I have no idea.

Mike3287 · 07-05-2020 05:33PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Absolutely. Still interesting the French found a historical case from December, tested twice I believe.

I'm not even sure what it does mean if it's been around for months, why it would be a positive, it's still blowing up now anyway.

Like hair loss, if your not paying attention, you won't notice until you’ve already lost 50% of your hair

What Username Guidelines · 07-05-2020 05:33PM

Arghus wrote: »

How do people still persistently not get the basic fact that we've had less death than expected because of the lockdown?

And if there was no lockdown, those issues wouldnt have been treated anyway due to full hospitals. I'm not saying it's right by any means, there is no easy answer to any of this.

boring accountant · 07-05-2020 05:34PM

political analyst wrote: »

The number of people who have died because of non-Covid surgery not going ahead or because they took their own lives due to mental illness that was aggravated by the lockdown is probably much higher than the Covid death toll.

If Sweden had had a lockdown then its health service would have collapsed because most of the revenue that it depends on would have been wiped out by a lockdown.

I’ve heard from an ICU doc there are 2 Covid patients in her ICU and 3 “mental health” cases i.e. attempted suicides. She said to have more than one of these cases in ICU at the same time is extremely rare. Shes never seen it.

One of the covid patients is in their 80s and has been in for 5 weeks.

Arghus · 07-05-2020 05:34PM

JoChervil wrote: »

It's amazing isn't it?

He refused to hear her and yet you've still got a few who don't accept what happened.

Why I don't cast such insults? Because I have valid points maybe?

Did actually watch the exchange between the two of them yesterday?

What you are saying happened didn't actually happen.

Sorry, but, it's as clear as day that you are wrong.

Mike3287 · 07-05-2020 05:36PM

speckle wrote: »

And Sweden has ill team members too but they were told they had malaria. Does malaria exist there?I have no idea.

French had ill team members too, as did the US, lots of athletes were sick apparently

Wuhan was 20c at that time, not the winter olympics weather typical of flu like ilness

podgeandrodge · 07-05-2020 05:37PM

Higgins5473 wrote: »

Marvellous that free speech and opinion is alive and well.

I like listening to both sides of every story, it helps me form an opinion. I suggest you attempt to open your mind also.

Yep, have to agree, while there are a lot of potentially mad ideas out there, and perhaps within the realms of mad conspiracy theories, I am uncomfortable with the likes of Youtube not letting me make my own mind up, under the guise of not wanting non official health positions out there to "Protect" people. People have an obligation to protect themselves from mad information on the internet, but if we get into the habit of mad information being automatically deleted, we are handing away the decision on what is "mad" to someone else. I'd like the opportunity to see both sides and not just the "right side".

Ms2011 · 07-05-2020 05:38PM

We had that bug in ours at Christmas, all except myself who ironically has an autoimmune disease was struck down, we didn't even have a Christmas as everyone was so ill.
While the symptoms everyone had mirrored COVID-19 what has always made me doubtful was the idea that our hospitals would have been overrun if it had been here that early. However now with the realisation that France had a case mostly like contracted mid December but they weren't under pressure until weeks later makes me think maybe it could have been here earlier, it just doesn't seem so far fetched to me anymore.

redarmy · 07-05-2020 05:38PM

BREAKING: sadly a further 29 people with #COVID19 have died. 137 new cases confirmed too. 1,403 people have now so far lost their lives, while there are 22,385 confirmed cases in this country.

JoChervil · 07-05-2020 05:38PM

petes wrote: »

For someone who didn't watch it all you've an awful lot to say about it....

I watched her for 10 minutes asking questions and not being heard. And her mic silenced few times, so even more he didn't want to hear her...

ACitizenErased · 07-05-2020 05:39PM

Ms2011 wrote: »

We had that bug in ours at Christmas, all except myself who ironically has an autoimmune disease was struck down, we didn't even have a Christmas as everyone was so ill.
While the symptoms everyone had mirrored COVID-19 what has always made me doubtful was the idea that our hospitals would have been overrun if it had been here that early. However now with the realisation that France had a case mostly like contracted mid December but they weren't under pressure until weeks later makes me think maybe it could have been here earlier, it just doesn't seem so far fetched to me anymore.

Viruses mutate. One mutation could cause immense damage.

ACitizenErased · 07-05-2020 05:39PM

29 deaths and 137 new cases.
Incredibly low cases!
RIP to all.

redarmy · 07-05-2020 05:40PM

JoChervil wrote: »

I watched her for 10 minutes asking questions and not being heard. And her mic silenced few times, so even more he didn't want to hear her...

Gemima ?

Vinnie222 · 07-05-2020 05:41PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

29 deaths and 137 new cases.
Incredibly low cases!
RIP to all.

Nice to see, shows the measures are working well

boring accountant · 07-05-2020 05:41PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Yep, have to agree, while there are a lot of potentially mad ideas out there, and perhaps within the realms of mad conspiracy theories, I am uncomfortable with the likes of Youtube not letting me make my own mind up, under the guise of not wanting non official health positions out there to "Protect" people. People have an obligation to protect themselves from mad information on the internet, but if we get into the habit of mad information being automatically deleted, we are handing away the decision on what is "mad" to someone else. I'd like the opportunity to see both sides and not just the "right side".

I found it particularly worrying when YouTube said it would delete anything not in line with WHO guidelines. 2 problems with this.

1. many reputable scientists, including some government scientists disagree with the WHO, so they might find them censoring democratic governments.

2. The WHO has been wrong and has changed its advice over time.

ACitizenErased · 07-05-2020 05:42PM

Lowest cases since March 22nd.

Eod100 · 07-05-2020 05:42PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

29 deaths and 137 new cases.
Incredibly low cases!
RIP to all.

Think we still need to see number of cases from the changing of criteria which may take a few weeks

DOCARCH · 07-05-2020 05:43PM

redarmy wrote: »

BREAKING: sadly a further 29 people with #COVID19 have died. 137 new cases confirmed too. 1,403 people have now so far lost their lives, while there are 22,385 confirmed cases in this country.

That sounds positive.

ACitizenErased · 07-05-2020 05:43PM

76 in ICU, zero admissions in last 24 hours

harr · 07-05-2020 05:43PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

29 deaths and 137 new cases.
Incredibly low cases!
RIP to all.

You could say suspiciously low number of new cases compared to deaths .

Arghus · 07-05-2020 05:43PM

That's great.

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