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Is it just me or have SF vanished?

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  • #4442
    celt262
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭celt262


    Double


  • #4443
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    I did ask on another thread and failed to get a response from the usual suspects

    In the last 30 years in Irish politics what has SF done? Name something good they have implemented to change Ireland for better

    I’m talking South now


  • #4444
    Hubertj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭Hubertj


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    I did ask on another thread and failed to get a response from the usual suspects

    In the last 30 years in Irish politics what has SF done? Name something good they have implemented to change Ireland for better

    I’m talking South now

    I suppose you could say they stopped blowing up kids. You could argue it changed Ireland for the better?


  • #4445
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Hubertj wrote: »
    I suppose you could say they stopped blowing up kids. You could argue it changed Ireland for the better?

    Well that was John Hume, Bertie and Clinton who made sure that stopped but I am talking about south now...


  • #4446
    McMurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Why they line up anyone when
    1. They had no idea they would get such a big revolt vote
    2. Have never tried to form a government since the election

    I have no idea who this person is but still makes no difference because whoever is saying he was lined up is talking BS

    You went 2 or 3 days accusing me if having no manners because I gave you multiple examples of how this was patently untrue the last time you posted this.

    The "I didn't know" excuse won't work this time I'm afraid shef.

    I'd post multiple links and news articles this time too, but you'd probably refuse to read them.


    Again.


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  • #4447
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    McMurphy wrote: »
    You went 2 or 3 days accusing me if having no manners because I gave you multiple examples of how this was patently untrue the last time you posted this.

    The "I didn't know" excuse won't work this time I'm afraid shef.

    I'd post multiple links and news articles this time too, but you'd probably refuse to read them.


    Again.


    Wrong thread....


    I accused you of bully boy tactics which you continue with. I have already said 4-5 times I made a mistake but instead of accepting and moving on you are now bringing it across multiple thread. Maybe you can keep that discussion to the thread it started on.


  • #4448
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I will thell you what they did in the south in the last 30 years and I am not a SF supporter.

    They shuck up the cosey consensus of FG FF Labour.


  • #4449
    mattser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,349 ✭✭✭mattser


    mariaalice wrote: »
    I will thell you what they did in the south in the last 30 years and I am not a SF supporter.

    They shuck up the cosey condenses of FG FF Labour.

    Give us a list of what else of merit they did...
    Keep it to 3 or 4 achievements..
    Take your time.


  • #4450
    McMurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Wrong thread....


    I accused you of bully boy tactics which you continue with. I have already said 4-5 times I made a mistake but instead of accepting and moving on you are now bringing it across multiple thread. Maybe you can keep that discussion to the thread it started on.

    You accused me of being "unmannerly" because I pointed out to you - complete with multiple links and news clippings that what you have claimed today again was absolutely untrue, but you're back making the exact same claim today again - and when it's pointed out to you that you're still making untrue claims, and having to be reminded how this has been pointed out to you before.

    Now you are trying to make this about an entirely different "mistake".


    Did it ever occur to you that you post an awful lot in political themed threads, of which you apparently know nothing about?

    It's mistake after mistake with you.

    Nice deflection attempt though.


  • #4451
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    McMurphy wrote: »
    You accused me of being "unmannerly" because I pointed out to you - complete with multiple links and news clippings that what you have claimed today again was absolutely untrue, but you're back making the exact same claim today again - and when it's pointed out to you that you're still making untrue claims, and having to be reminded how this has been pointed out to you before.

    Now you are trying to make this about an entirely different "mistake".


    Did it ever occur to you that you post an awful lot in political themed threads, of which you apparently know nothing about?

    It's mistake after mistake with you.

    Nice deflection attempt though.


    Let me repeat
    In the last 30 years in Irish politics what has SF done? Name something good they have implemented to change Ireland for better



    Thanks


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  • #4452
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    mariaalice wrote: »
    I will thell you what they did in the south in the last 30 years and I am not a SF supporter.

    They shuck up the cosey condenses of FG FF Labour.

    Thats enough for me,

    Im happy to see/give them get a chance here,




    the 2 party leader debate screamed arrogance for me......essentially rte and ffg coming together and saying yous must only vote for just these two and no other option allowed.

    Great to see,someone rattle them & hopefully things will change


  • #4453
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Thats enough for me,

    Im happy to see/give them get a chance here,




    the 2 party leader debate screamed arrogance for me......essentially rte and ffg coming together and saying yous must only vote for just these two and no other option allowed.

    Great to see,someone rattle them & hopefully things will change

    Despite haveing some good TD's, the support they attract put me off.


  • #4454
    Mortelaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Thats enough for me,

    Im happy to see/give them get a chance here,




    the 2 party leader debate screamed arrogance for me......essentially rte and ffg coming together and saying yous must only vote for just these two and no other option allowed.

    Great to see,someone rattle them & hopefully things will change

    To be fair,convention was that the 2 largest parties from the last election were invited to participate
    Opinion polls in current ones are ignored
    In theory if the new practice is continued it will be back to two at the next one MLM vs Leo


  • #4455
    McMurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Let me repeat





    Thanks

    So you spout nonsense, when this is pointed out to you - go for days accusing me of having no manners because I gave links and articles proving you were spouting nonsense, you pop up a few weeks later spouting the exact same nonsense, you then try and hide behind a "mistake" you made in a different thread about a different subject (no acknowledgment of having your nonsense once again pointed out to you) - you now try to divert the subject as to how I was "bullying you" about something in a different thread (about the same nonsense) and now want me to answer a question about something completely different altogether.

    If mental contortionists ever become a competitive sport at Olympic level - Ireland can bank on you returning home with multiple golds shef.

    You're one of the most disingenuous posters on this site.


  • #4456
    mattser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,349 ✭✭✭mattser


    McMurphy wrote: »
    So you spout nonsense, when this is pointed out to you - go for days accusing me of having no manners because I gave links and articles proving you were spouting nonsense, you pop up a few weeks later spouting the exact same nonsense, you then try and hide behind a "mistake" you made in a different thread about a different subject (no acknowledgment of having your nonsense once again pointed out to you) - you now try to divert the subject as to how I was "bullying you" about something in a different thread (about the same nonsense) and now want me to answer a question about something completely different altogether.

    If mental contortionists ever become a competitive sport at Olympic level - Ireland can bank on you returning home with multiple golds shef.

    You're one of the most disingenuous posters on this site.

    Any chance you could answer the question the poster asked ?


  • #4457
    McMurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    mattser wrote: »
    Any chance you could answer the question the poster asked ?

    I will when he answers why he posted stuff he knows well to be false, seeing as he spent days accusing me of being unmannerly for pointing the lie out to him , and when reminded about it, tried to pivot onto something else?


    Does that sound fair?

    Are you his mammy btw mattser?


  • #4458
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    mattser wrote: »
    Any chance you could answer the question the poster asked ?


    I wouldn't expect it. I admitted an error on another thread and now its been dragged onto this one:rolleyes:


    Instead of answering the question expect 2-3 pages of attacking posters, see response to you for example


  • #4459
    McMurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    I wouldn't expect it. I admitted an error on another thread and now its been dragged onto this one::


    Instead of answering the question expect 2-3 pages of attacking posters, see response to you for example

    No - your error about the Ceann Comhairle is a completely separate error that no-one is mentioning here (except you)

    Any chance you might clarify why you are repeating the same nonsense that you have had bebunked already, and are now attempting to make this about something else entirely?

    If you're insistent on refusing to clarify, and try and latch on to a different argument, that's fine.

    But at least say so - and everyone can move on.


  • #4460
    blanch152
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,935 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    celt262 wrote: »
    Is this true they made no attempt to go into government?


    There were soundbites about it, some setpiece meetings in the week after the election, but since then nada.

    While FF and FG were able to produce an outline programme for Government and exchange questions and answers with the Greens, there has been zilch of substance from Sinn Fein, to the extent that even Richard Boyd-Barrett has been calling them out on it.


  • #4461
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    To be fair,convention was that the 2 largest parties from the last election were invited to participate
    Opinion polls in current ones are ignored
    In theory if the new practice is continued it will be back to two at the next one MLM vs Leo

    Tbh i was of view all leaders of parties that get their ard feis speech (afaik 5% vote is set limit?) broadcast should been included

    Be that labour,greens,pbp,justin barrets crew,soc dems if they ever gain enough should be included too....it was gross arrogance of rte and ffg demanding everyone else be excluded from leaders debate,

    That basically typified the better than us vibe that permetates irish politics from the established parties,hopefully this is forever shattered


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  • #4462
    Edgware
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Councillor Paul Hayes Cork has now vanished from the party. No support from McDonald in the General Election. The Dublin trio of McDonald, O Broin and O Reilly seem to be calling the shots (no pun intended). Even the Falls Rd lads will get fed up of that soon enough


  • #4463
    mattser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,349 ✭✭✭mattser


    McMurphy wrote: »
    I will when he answers why he posted stuff he knows well to be false, seeing as he spent days accusing me of being unmannerly for pointing the lie out to him , and when reminded about it, tried to pivot onto something else?


    Does that sound fair?

    Are you his mammy btw mattser    ?

    If you don't want to answer the question, that's fine. No need for the smartassery.


  • #4464
    McMurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    mattser wrote: »
    If you don't want to answer the question, that's fine. No need for the smartassery.

    Let me know what part of this you don't get and I will run through it with you.
    I will when he answers why he posted stuff he knows well to be false, seeing as he spent days accusing me of being unmannerly for pointing the lie out to him , and when reminded about it, tried to pivot onto something else


  • #4465
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Lot of anger on this thread.


  • #4466
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    McMurphy wrote: »
    No - your error about the Ceann Comhairle is a completely separate error that no-one is mentioning here (except you)

    Any chance you might clarify why you are repeating the same nonsense that you have had bebunked already, and are now attempting to make this about something else entirely?

    If you're insistent on refusing to clarify, and try and latch on to a different argument, that's fine.

    But at least say so - and everyone can move on.


    So your saying SF did try to form a government? except they managed to get no support from any party in Ireland? to me thats not trying.....so we agree to differ


    Any chance of answering the question?


  • #4467
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,849 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    So your saying SF did try to form a government? except they managed to get no support from any party in Ireland? to me thats not trying.....so we agree to differ


    Any chance of answering the question?

    They didn’t try very hard. Didn’t respond to approach from PBP. https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/boyd-barrett-yet-to-hear-from-sinn-fein-on-forming-left-wing-coalition-998178.html


  • #4468
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,852 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    SF have so far kept quiet after this earlier...

    https://www.independent.ie/videos/irish-news/leo-varadkar-accuses-mary-lou-mcdonald-of-being-two-faced-in-heated-dail-exchange-39188234.html


  • #4469
    Edgware
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    SF have so far kept quiet after this earlier...

    https://www.independent.ie/videos/irish-news/leo-varadkar-accuses-mary-lou-mcdonald-of-being-two-faced-in-heated-dail-exchange-39188234.html

    "Dont hit me with the Peace Process in me arms". Although since Adams went we dont get that threat anymore. The Dublin gang of three seem to be running the show


  • #4470
    Humilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭Humilde


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    they won't be happy that Leo and Co seem to be doing a reasonable job over the virus. its a major potential banana skin for any government and FG seem to be keeping it together so far. Leo, as far as his abilities allow, did a good job with his state of the nation address.

    a reasonable job? You are joking I assume. Go round to to the local nursing hones in your area. I think they'll tell you about the job that's been done on them. I'm apolitical but it's clear that Mary Lou McDonald will be leading the government within the next few years. She can then be judged by her actions in government. The current old boys club is in trouble and they know it.


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  • #4471
    Mortelaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    SF have so far kept quiet after this earlier...

    https://www.independent.ie/videos/irish-news/leo-varadkar-accuses-mary-lou-mcdonald-of-being-two-faced-in-heated-dail-exchange-39188234.html

    :D:D:D


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