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Is it just me or have SF vanished?

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  • #4412
    Mortelaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Theres absolutely no malice between them or bad blood,they do get on
    A lot of that comes out of northern Ireland talks over the last while and during Brexit


  • #4413
    Zico
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Zico


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    Mary Lou and Leo get on well.

    Probably played hockey together.


  • #4414
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,308 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Dank Janniels wrote: »
    Its been 3months since the election, how come no1 is talking about how Sinn Fein are forming a government? Who are they talking to, what plans or programs for government are they planning?

    Imelda Munster was on yesterday saying ML for Taoiseach again and bladdering about building the same amount of houses as before the election.

    Seems to have gone above her head that the country is in avery different place now.

    Although Shortall is just as bad, they should just stop talking to herself and Murphy they are more bother than they are worth.


  • #4415
    Hubertj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭Hubertj


    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    Imelda Munster was on yesterday saying ML for Taoiseach again and bladdering about building the same amount of houses as before the election.

    Seems to have gone above her head that the country is in avery different place now.

    Although Shortall is just as bad, they should just stop talking to herself and Murphy they are more bother than they are worth.

    I saw that piece last night and it was a bit of a car crash... Munster seemed very unprepared.....


  • #4416
    tipptom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    Imelda Munster was on yesterday saying ML for Taoiseach again and bladdering about building the same amount of houses as before the election.

    Seems to have gone above her head that the country is in avery different place now.

    Although Shortall is just as bad, they should just stop talking to herself and Murphy they are more bother than they are worth.

    You think that the housing plan should be abandoned?

    I would have thought it should be stepped up with more urgency than ever.


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  • #4417
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,153 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    I see Michelle O Néill has criticised the governments plan for easing restrictions.

    Like is she actually for real?

    I suppose when you aren't doing the job you're supposed to you get bored.

    An unbelievable party.


  • #4418
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    tipptom wrote: »
    You think that the housing plan should be abandoned?

    I would have thought it should be stepped up with more urgency than ever.

    We can't afford more FF/FG self enrichment policies be it housing during a housing crisis or private clinics/Ireland on call during a global pandemic.
    They see opportunity in crisis. When they should be looking out for the public they are not. When things get historically bad they use it like a smoke screen to look after their own. Despicable.

    Former Anglo board member at the helm no less.
    The HSE has hired the recruitment company CPL, which provides subcontractors to Facebook and other large employers, to support the “Be on Call for Ireland” recruitment drive.

    CPL has been recruited to contract the workers “due to the strain on existing HSE resources to meet the Covid-19 challenge,” the HSE spokeswoman said in a statement.

    The publicly funded health service declined to disclose what it was paying the private company, saying that the rate of pay “for its services for this project is commercially sensitive.”
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/almost-2-000-working-or-job-ready-through-ireland-s-call-recruitment-drive-1.4243829

    It's the height of hypocrisy to read FG flag wavers talking about the bad sums or poor financials of other parties when you see what FG are at. Losing the tax payer money by hook or by crook, (pun intended).


  • #4419
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,849 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    tipptom wrote: »
    You think that the housing plan should be abandoned?

    I would have thought it should be stepped up with more urgency than ever.

    Now that AirBnB lets have returned to their rightful private lets, housing isn’t such a big issue.


  • #4420
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Now that AirBnB lets have returned to their rightful private lets, housing isn’t such a big issue.

    Is this not just pretending the problem has gone away,a year to 18 months,world will be back the same as before??


    An econmic improvement,like rain,will always happen again,pretending the same thing wont happen as regards air.bnbs is like thinking it wont rain again during a drought imo


    Poor medium to long term planning has long dogged ireland,looks like its to continue under another ff/fg government


  • #4421
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Now that AirBnB lets have returned to their rightful private lets, housing isn’t such a big issue.

    Where are you getting this from? My own anecdotal evidence suggests everything is on hold or has slowed to a crawl because of the pandemic. Do you have evidence on homeless families just not being homeless anymore or people unable to afford a roof of their own suddenly having no problems?
    The so called 'charity industry' got some families off the list and into private rentals a few weeks back, which is great.


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  • #4422
    Bishop of hope
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,343 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Is this not just pretending the problem has gone away,a year to 18 months,world will be back the same as before??


    An econmic improvement,like rain,will always happen again,pretending the same thing wont happen as regards air.bnbs is like thinking it wont rain again during a drought imo


    Poor medium to long term planning has long dogged ireland,looks like its to continue under another ff/fg government

    You can expect the cost of new builds to increase dramatically too if the greens enter Govt. Highly unlikely you will get pp with a chimney in a couple of years and the extra cost of providing green heat will drive prices upward.
    There will be no cheap housing for anyone, affordable will only be for the better off


  • #4423
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    If SF were to get into Government then would their representatives start calling the country by its proper title?

    Like you wouldn’t want a SF minister of trade and employment for the Republic of Ireland heading overseas and refusing to give the proper title of the country he/she is a minister of.


  • #4424
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    If SF were to get into Government then would their representatives start calling the country by its proper title?

    Like you wouldn’t want a SF minister of trade and employment for the Republic of Ireland heading overseas and refusing to give the proper title of the country he/she is a minister of.

    It would be like voting for them and them not going to Westminister. People likely know what they are voting for.
    When abroad I tell people I'm Irish which they take to mean as the island of Ireland. I've found this in Scotland and England too.


  • #4425
    tipptom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    Bishop of hope wrote: »
    You can expect the cost of new builds to increase dramatically too if the greens enter Govt. Highly unlikely you will get pp with a chimney in a couple of years and the extra cost of providing green heat will drive prices upward.
    There will be no cheap housing for anyone, affordable will only be for the better off

    You think FF/FG will care about what price it will cost the taxpayer to build houses as long as they get one more crack at power and another chance to throw more goodies to their Owen o Callaghan/Denis o Brien etc charity's?


  • #4426
    Edgware
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    tipptom wrote: »
    You think FF/FG will care about what price it will cost the taxpayer to build houses as long as they get one more crack at power and another chance to throw more goodies to their Owen o Callaghan/Denis o Brien etc charity's?
    Usual rubbish from you. Come back with something thats relevant


  • #4427
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,308 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    tipptom wrote: »
    You think that the housing plan should be abandoned?

    I would have thought it should be stepped up with more urgency than ever.

    The economy has ground to a halt, we are borrowing to keep the lights on and pay for the 20% of the population who are out of work.

    You do realise the election promises were based on the state of the country last January and Febuary?


  • #4428
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    tipptom wrote: »
    You think FF/FG will care about what price it will cost the taxpayer to build houses as long as they get one more crack at power and another chance to throw more goodies to their Owen o Callaghan/Denis o Brien etc charity's?

    O'Callaghan died 3 years ago...


  • #4429
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    Bowie wrote: »
    Where are you getting this from? My own anecdotal evidence suggests everything is on hold or has slowed to a crawl because of the pandemic. Do you have evidence on homeless families just not being homeless anymore or people unable to afford a roof of their own suddenly having no problems?
    The so called 'charity industry' got some families off the list and into private rentals a few weeks back, which is great.

    Another shinner was on here the other day saying that the collapse of airbnb had solved the homeless crisis. One of ye has gone off script.


  • #4430
    Edgware
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    all about the mane wrote: »
    O'Callaghan died 3 years ago...
    Dont let the truth get in the way of a good rant


  • #4431
    blanch152
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,935 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Bowie wrote: »
    Where are you getting this from? My own anecdotal evidence suggests everything is on hold or has slowed to a crawl because of the pandemic. Do you have evidence on homeless families just not being homeless anymore or people unable to afford a roof of their own suddenly having no problems?
    The so called 'charity industry' got some families off the list and into private rentals a few weeks back, which is great.


    Your own anecdotal evidence? Do you have something to back that up, or are you just kite-flying?

    The charity industry isn't "so-called", there are an awful lot of high-paid fat cats benefitting from the charity industry. Rehab wasn't the half of it.


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  • #4432
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Your own anecdotal evidence? Do you have something to back that up, or are you just kite-flying?

    The charity industry isn't "so-called", there are an awful lot of high-paid fat cats benefitting from the charity industry. Rehab wasn't the half of it.

    The NGOs and charities came about because of public policy and inertia by various government there is nothing to stop the government takeing over the work of the charities NGO and providing the services directly themselves as state run services would be so much more efficiently and cheaper that the NGO's and charities :pac:

    The NGO have very carefully negotiated services level agreement with any government agency that funds them.

    A policy of saying someones primary presentations is homelessness when in reality it's mental health is a deliberate policy choice.

    What’s very positive about the future is that the size of the in-patient unit is much smaller,” Kelly says. “The Phoenix Care Centre has a maximum of 54 beds, compared to 2,500 beds at the start of the 1900s. That’s a huge change. It allows more focus on the individual. Sometimes, in the history of the asylums, that’s what was lost, quite simply.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/goodbye-grangegorman-1.1314269

    I am not saying bring back large mental health hospitals, but the whole areas of NGO and charities in the homeless services is very complex.


  • #4433
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Your own anecdotal evidence? Do you have something to back that up, or are you just kite-flying?

    The charity industry isn't "so-called", there are an awful lot of high-paid fat cats benefitting from the charity industry. Rehab wasn't the half of it.

    Do you know what 'anecdotal' means? Where's Maryanne's? Why have you no comment on Maryanne's, is her kite flying more to your liking so somehow more legit?

    I was referring to how some use 'industry' as a slight. You must have stumbled across such usage?

    None-the-less, the charities are helping the people out of the homeless situation which is commendable.


  • #4434
    Hubertj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭Hubertj


    I heard that SF lined up McFeely to head up OPW and manage the social housing projects. He’s a good republican and has plenty of experience delivering large scale developments. Shame that they were unable to form a coalition.


  • #4435
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,849 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hubertj wrote: »
    I heard that SF lined up McFeely to head up OPW and manage the social housing projects. He’s a good republican and has plenty of experience delivering large scale developments. Shame that they were unable to form a coalition.

    Did they try and form a coalition?


  • #4436
    a very cool kid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭a very cool kid


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Did they try and form a coalition?

    Nope even Richard Boyd Barrett, the biggest empty vessel in Irish politics called them out on it!


  • #4437
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Hubertj wrote: »
    I heard that SF lined up McFeely to head up OPW and manage the social housing projects. He’s a good republican and has plenty of experience delivering large scale developments. Shame that they were unable to form a coalition.

    Why they line up anyone when
    1. They had no idea they would get such a big revolt vote
    2. Have never tried to form a government since the election

    I have no idea who this person is but still makes no difference because whoever is saying he was lined up is talking BS


  • #4438
    blanch152
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,935 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Hubertj wrote: »
    I heard that SF lined up McFeely to head up OPW and manage the social housing projects. He’s a good republican and has plenty of experience delivering large scale developments. Shame that they were unable to form a coalition.


    Ah yes, the man who built Priory Hall, one of the biggest shysters around, and a good republican to boot.


  • #4439
    Dank Janniels
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Dank Janniels


    Surely if FFFG+Greens go ahead it would be an epic fail for SF. They won the election but lost the Government


  • #4440
    Hubertj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭Hubertj


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Why they line up anyone when
    1. They had no idea they would get such a big revolt vote
    2. Have never tried to form a government since the election

    I have no idea who this person is but still makes no difference because whoever is saying he was lined up is talking BS

    Google Tom McFeely. Top lad. I’m taking the pi*s but nothing would surprise me with SF.


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  • #4441
    celt262
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭celt262


    a very cool kid wrote: »
    Nope even Richard Boyd Barrett, the biggest empty vessel in Irish politics called them out on it!

    Is this true they made no attempt to go into government?


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