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  • #3392
    Paul Kiernan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,240 ✭✭✭Paul Kiernan


    User1998 wrote: »
    They won’t. How much you paid is irrelevant. They’re only interested in the OMSP in Ireland. If they give an OMSP of say €50k and you see several similar spec cars being sold by dealers for €45k, then you have grounds for appeal, but just because you got the car cheap in the UK does not mean they’ll re asses your VRT

    I thought that too and it is what Revenue claim to be the case. However I was told by a guy that specialises in UK imports that you can use the "what it cost me" argument. This would especially be the case if it's an approved used car from a franchised dealer.

    When I imported my 530e I was charged an OMSP of 55k. I was delighted when I argued it down to 45k and got a 1400 refund. But then I saw someone here, I think in the 530 thread, said that he'd got it down to about 35k for a similiar car.


  • #3393
    Mickcork2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 ✭Mickcork2020


    Paul Kiernan wrote: »
    When I imported my 530e I was charged an OMSP of 55k. I was delighted when I argued it down to 45k and got a 1400 refund. But then I saw someone here, I think in the , said that he'd got it down to about 35k for a similiar car.

    What was the VRT charge for you Paul?


  • #3394
    Paul Kiernan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,240 ✭✭✭Paul Kiernan


    Mickcork2020 wrote: »
    What was the VRT charge for you Paul?
    Around 4100 I think! Mine was brand new so I had to pay VAT as well:(

    The system may have been accurate in the past, but as mickdw said, it's a bit of a mess now. The figures for the 530 dropdown are very low but they're there, on Revenue website, so you'd be well advised to print it out and use it to support any potential appeal.

    Why you going for the M sport? Very clunky on those big wheels and low profile tyres and you'll normally get hit for a chunk of extra VRT! SE's cheaper to buy and usually better specced! Mind you, they don't look as nice.


  • #3395
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,621 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    M Sports being clunky on big wheels and low profile tyres is a bit of a myth. I'm driving the old F10 5 Series with the M Sport suspension & 19" wheels and the ride is perfectly fine. The 5 Series suspension setup is very good and well able to absorb most Irish roads have to offer even in M Sport form.


  • #3396
    Mickcork2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 ✭Mickcork2020


    Paul Kiernan wrote: »
    Around 4100 I think! Mine was brand new so I had to pay VAT as well:(

    The system may have been accurate in the past, but as mickdw said, it's a bit of a mess now. The figures for the 530 dropdown are very low but they're there, on Revenue website, so you'd be well advised to print it out and use it to support any potential appeal.

    Why you going for the M sport? Very clunky on those big wheels and low profile tyres and you'll normally get hit for a chunk of extra VRT! SE's cheaper to buy and usually better specced! Mind you, they don't look as nice.

    Well if it was 4100 new it has to be considerably lower for a 2017/18. Lol you answered the question with your own statement. BMW's arent even that nice to look at period but the fact they're probably the best looking electric car out there and the VRT is low is really attractive. Was thinking Sclass electric but VRT is cruel, Nearly double the price of the car.


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  • #3397
    Wailin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭Wailin


    vintagevrs wrote: »
    Paying vrt as a % of a figure that already includes vrt annoys me in principle.

    Anyway, I randomly just found the previous owner of that M3 on Instagram. Replaced with another fine car....

    Screenshot-20200505-130450-com-instagram-android.jpg

    A GT3 RS, lucky bàstard!


  • #3398
    vintagevrs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,402 ✭✭✭vintagevrs


    Wailin wrote: »
    A GT3 RS, lucky bàstard!

    Absolutely, and he also makes plenty of proper use out of it so fair play to him.


  • #3399
    carsfan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,833 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    Wailin wrote: »
    Well, that m3 comp is sold. I sent off a sneaky mail to Duffy's yesterdsy enquiring about the €2500 service and got a call from a sales person half an hour ago. They took a deposit on the car last week. He said new tyres were in that price plus oil, filters, spark plugs etc.

    I wonder how they organise test drives now. Do the salesperson just hand you the keys and leave you take the car out on your own?

    were you thinking of buying it or window shopping?


  • #3400
    bazz26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,621 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    It's hard not to window shop to keep yourself half sane during this lock down. I went from browsing the 640d to the m340i and then to that 440i down in Wexford. Thankfully window shopping costs nothing but time.


  • #3401
    Wailin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭Wailin


    carsfan2 wrote: »
    were you thinking of buying it or window shopping?

    Well, let's say I was definitely interested in taking one for a spin.

    Never had an M car before and I would like to at some stage. What I like about those grey M3's is they are very subtle and don't attract too much attention once debadged. The stand out colours like the marina blue competition wouldn't really interest me.

    I reckon the comfort level would be a shock coming from an F10, plus interior quality could be an issue. I had a 2012 316d as a loan car recently and it was soul destroying to drive.

    I am keen to have a sporty, petrol engined car though. That's why the 440i and these are on the list to test drive.

    At the same time, the level of comfort,economy, running cost and power in the 535d is hard to dismiss.


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  • #3402
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,925 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wailin wrote: »
    .......... What I like about those grey M3's is they are very subtle and don't attract too much attention once debadged..............

    I dunno about that tbh.
    The stance & centre exhausts are a give away to anyone remotely interested in cars and once you are driving it even at idle there's a serious soundtrack from the engine.

    S4s are far more tending to what you seem to be describing, IMO.


  • #3403
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,136 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Here's a little bit of fun for not massive money, it's not often they come up these days. Probably not something that's going to depreciate, s2000 https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2001-honda-s2000/24727985


  • #3404
    Wailin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭Wailin


    Augeo wrote: »
    I dunno about that tbh.
    The stance & centre exhausts are a give away to anyone remotely interested in cars and once you are driving it even at idle there's a serious soundtrack from the engine.

    Correct of course. I think what I really meant to say is I'm in my mid forties and bright coloured cars are not really my thing :pac:.


  • #3405
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,774 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wailin wrote: »

    I wonder how they organise test drives now. Do the salesperson just hand you the keys and leave you take the car out on your own?

    It’s normal enough even before covid to test drive alone is it not? I always found it annoying when someone came came along as you couldn’t discuss it properly with the person with you or drive a car on etc. Ok it wasn’t m3’s I was test driving but stuff in the 25 to 30k bracket. Only one dealer didn’t just hand the keys and let us off on our own. In fact the car we actually bought the dealer said take it away for the night and bring it back tomorrow.


  • #3406
    Wailin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭Wailin


    I find independent dealers are fine letting you test drive on your own. Not so much with main dealers though, particularly the likes of bmw, audi and vw.


  • #3407
    ILikeBoats
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,898 ✭✭✭ILikeBoats


    I've had both with main dealers. However, the main dealers in Cork were letting me go myself, main dealers in Dublin were not.


  • #3408
    maddness
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭maddness


    Augeo wrote: »
    I dunno about that tbh.
    The stance & centre exhausts are a give away to anyone remotely interested in cars and once you are driving it even at idle there's a serious soundtrack from the engine.

    S4s are far more tending to what you seem to be describing, IMO.

    An S4!


  • #3409
    carsfan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,833 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    Wailin wrote: »
    I find independent dealers are fine letting you test drive on your own. Not so much with main dealers though, particularly the likes of bmw, audi and vw.

    The main dealers tend to be following a sales routine and want to come with you alright. Usually they know less than we do though about the cars.
    I am a little older than you Wailin and would also prefer less flash when it comes to colours. I fancy a proper sporty car again before electric takes over but don't want to lose my shirt either! !


  • #3410
    Wailin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭Wailin


    I think the m340i might be the perfect balance of sportyness, space, tech and comfort....just a matter of getting one a year or two old to take the bite out of the initial cost.


  • #3411
    maddness
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭maddness


    Wailin wrote: »
    I think the m340i might be the perfect balance of sportyness, space, tech and comfort....just a matter of getting one a year or two old to take the bite out of the initial cost.

    I’ve my eye on these when they are three years old and a lot cheaper in the UK assuming we can still get cars from the mainland!


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  • #3412
    shanec1928
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,213 ✭✭✭shanec1928


    ILikeBoats wrote: »
    I've had both with main dealers. However, the main dealers in Cork were letting me go myself, main dealers in Dublin were not.
    Depends on the dealer. In Dublin vw in Liffey valley was accompanied around the loop of the shopping centre. Seat down the road was there’s the keys see you in a while.


  • #3413
    btkm8unsl0w5r4
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,251 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Wailin wrote: »
    I think the m340i might be the perfect balance of sportyness, space, tech and comfort....just a matter of getting one a year or two old to take the bite out of the initial cost.

    I disagree, they are so close but so far. Get the full fat m car, you will be far happier with it. m "lites" are bought with only slightly more sound man maths than the full fat M.


  • #3414
    vintagevrs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,402 ✭✭✭vintagevrs


    Is an m lite not significantly cheaper to own though?

    I have convinced myself in the past to buy an E39 or E46 M before, and insurance was unbearable. Then those cars also were 1800 a year, then petrol ......tyres....I just couldn't live with those expenses.

    Where as I presume a modern m lite flies a bit under the insurance radar and it's a less highly strung car. That b58 is really well regarded motor now, plenty of grunt with a decent soundtrack. The suspension on a lite is probably much more suited to the real world.

    I'd absolutely love a full fat one, but all the extra little costs adding up would annoy me. Maybe I'm just tight.


  • #3415
    Top Dog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,176 ✭✭✭Top Dog


    maddness wrote: »
    I’ve my eye on these when they are three years old and a lot cheaper in the UK assuming we can still get cars from the mainland!
    Something I've been wondering about for a while - how will importing change once Brexit is completed at the end of the year? Will the massive savings evaporate? :confused:


  • #3416
    carsfan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,833 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    vintagevrs wrote: »
    Is an m lite not significantly cheaper to own though?

    I have convinced myself in the past to buy an E39 or E46 M before, and insurance was unbearable. Then those cars also were 1800 a year, then petrol ......tyres....I just couldn't live with those expenses.

    Where as I presume a modern m lite flies a bit under the insurance radar and it's a less highly strung car. That b58 is really well regarded motor now, plenty of grunt with a decent soundtrack. The suspension on a lite is probably much more suited to the real world.

    I'd absolutely love a full fat one, but all the extra little costs adding up would annoy me. Maybe I'm just tight.
    Yeah, I think I am of a similar mindset.
    I have champagne aspirations but lemonade budgets.

    Paying 1200 tax , big insurance etc. just annoys me after a while.
    I used to find 34mpg in my golf gti a pain yet I hate to think how many thousands I have lost in depreciation over the years. It is funny how the day to day costs kill you but you don't see the biggest cost until it is time to change and then you rationalize it because you want the new shiny car!


  • #3417
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,925 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    vintagevrs wrote: »
    ...............

    Where as I presume a modern m lite flies a bit under the insurance radar and it's a less highly strung car..............

    They'd also fly under loads of other radars also IMO.
    An M3/M4/M5 passes and everyone hears it and then sees it, it's a total headturner.

    I don't think the likes of this would catch as many eyes.....
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    b2fef87bfc20428bab7d2eb6bc30d4fc.jpg

    I've no experience of driving an M car admittedly.


  • #3418
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,925 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It'd be more this really, apologies for the 340i above......

    0a0d24701a3d464fba84729ab6e1f0da.jpg

    ee26b27caf8c4488b801dc5f4e13f3df.jpg


  • #3419
    carsfan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,833 ✭✭✭carsfan2


    I think that would be the ticket alright Augeo.


  • #3420
    maddness
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭maddness


    I’m looking to buy a M140i next, they are supposed to be a cracking M lite car. Obviously if I had the budget to buy and run one it would be a M2 but I just don’t and I reckon the M140i is the best compromise.


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  • #3421
    Casati
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,885 ✭✭✭Casati


    maddness wrote: »
    I’m looking to buy a M140i next, they are supposed to be a cracking M lite car. Obviously if I had the budget to buy and run one it would be a M2 but I just don’t and I reckon the M140i is the best compromise.

    Significantly different ownership proposition from a cost perspective between those two, can’t beat the M140i if importing - year old versions are are 22k sterling


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