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Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

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  • #8672
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    FishOnABike wrote: »
    So the closest is more than twenty times further away than the map shows and the other forty to fifty times further away?

    I think it's time for wikipedia type citations as there are so many different sides pushing their own agenda.

    American intelligence service issue a statement https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/item/2112-intelligence-community-statement-on-origins-of-covid-19saying "The Intelligence Community also concurs with the wide scientific consensus that the COVID-19 virus was not manmade or genetically modified." and that they "will continue to rigorously examine emerging information and intelligence to determine whether the outbreak began through contact with infected animals or if it was the result of an accident at a laboratory in Wuhan.”


    There are two labs in wuhan doing this research that we know of. I've no issue with people calling into question veracity of a particular claim but I do take issue when people try to confound facts to cast doubt. I think this is the source of the map posted. So let's be clear. The article cites a publication by Chinese researchers that claim virus must have been from a lab. China censors all corona virus literature now.That paper was pulled but Italian website has link to paper here. if interested.
    • The wuhan centre for disease control BSL2 (one in the photo posted here) is adjacent to market and to hospital where first cases were treated.
    • The wuhan centre of virology BSL4 is further away.
    'The WHCDC was also adjacent to the Union Hospital (Figure 1, bottom) where the first group of doctors were infected during this epidemic.' The report says.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8009669/Did-coronavirus-originate-Chinese-government-laboratory.html


  • #8673
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Media briefing at 11 AM on RTE News Now


    Strange day and time for a briefing surely? Or have they done this before?


  • #8674
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Has the theory that the virus can be transmitted through human faeces been proven or dismissed?

    You could test it out?


  • #8675
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Strange day and time for a briefing surely? Or have they done this before?

    fergal bowers, its a weekly briefing


  • #8676
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,223 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    snoopboggybog wrote: »
    US is doing better than Ireland per population.

    Population of Europe is 741 million.

    Population of USA is 340 Million.

    Population of ROI is 4.9 million

    You can do the maths. There's around 6 states badly affected.

    What percentage of Europe make up the people affected?

    Most states are doing excellent and will reopen soon.

    People just love blaming Trump even though he's doing a great job.

    The one thing whoever was advising him did right was to shut down international travel and tighten restrictions around it.

    His attitude towards the disease from the outset has been shambolic however.


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  • #8677
    shaveAbullock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭shaveAbullock


    Yes the breifings are often early it's the numbers that are released late in the day.


  • #8678
    Non solum non ambulabit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    snoopboggybog wrote: »
    US is doing better than Ireland per population.

    Population of Europe is 741 million.

    Population of USA is 340 Million.

    Population of ROI is 4.9 million

    You can do the maths. There's around 6 states badly affected.

    What percentage of Europe make up the people affected?

    Most states are doing excellent and will reopen soon.

    People just love blaming Trump even though he's doing a great job.


    I admire your constant trolling, well done. :P

    How is the bleach working out for people?

    BTW Ireland is a micro state compared to USA. How has Ireland done in comparison to Andorra?


  • #8679
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Has the theory that the virus can be transmitted through human faeces been proven or dismissed?

    The last I read was the scientist that released the original paper on it also carried out studies on the outbreak of Sars outbreak in relation to the spread of that virus and the transfer of that virus trough faeces.
    Both papers turned out to be a carbon copy of each other with just dates and virus names changed.


  • #8680
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    ZX7R wrote: »
    The last I read was the scientist that released the original paper on it also carried out studies on the outbreak of Sars outbreak in relation to the spread of that virus and the transfer of that virus trough faeces.
    Both papers turned out to be a carbon copy of each other with just dates and virus names changed.

    Are you poo pooing that study?

    :pac:


  • #8681
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    I am really surprised that so many people give credence to Trump's efforts at distraction from his woeful handling of the pandemic in the USA.

    USA 4.25% of the world's population.

    USA 1,160,838 cases, approx 32% of the world's reported cases.

    USA 67,448 deaths, approx 25% of the world's reported deaths.

    EUropean Union+UK is almost 60% of reported deaths worldwide, 6.5% of world population


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  • #8682
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    wakka12 wrote: »
    EUropean Union+UK is almost 60% of reported deaths worldwide, 6.5% of world population

    Obviously, that depends on how numbers are researched in other countries.


  • #8683
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Russia's numbers are flying up now.

    This briefing will be interesting when it's opened to questions (if it is) as it's surely going to be all about the supposed robust discussion between cabinet members and Tony Holohan. I'm sure the officials have got their own response ready which will tip toe across this matter.

    Oh God, one camera again :(


  • #8684
    Non solum non ambulabit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    Testing testing testing. All numbers go back to that.


  • #8685
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Live now https://www.rte.ie/news/player/live/7/


  • #8686
    Pitch n Putt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭Pitch n Putt


    Here we go ramp up testing ramp up testing weekly mantra.


  • #8687
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Live now https://www.rte.ie/news/player/live/7/


    Looks like this will be a long one. There's usually a good recap on Reddit after these things so I'll check that later instead. I'll repost here if there is


  • #8688
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Spain allowed some workers back about 3 weeks ago and numbers still plummeting. 800 odd cases today and just 50 in Madrid which was one of the hardest hit areas.


  • #8689
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    How many people are dying of Covid 19 and at the time of death the only illness they have is Covid 19? You know like healthy people with no medical complications my guess that figure in this country would be less than 50 perhaps even less than 20. That would be the true death rate. The vast majority of people are not dying of Covid 19 they are dying with Covid 19 in their system.


  • #8690
    ChelseaRentBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭ChelseaRentBoy


    We may never have a vaccine and our lives may be changed forever.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/03/health/coronavirus-vaccine-never-developed-intl/index.html

    :(


  • #8691
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,855 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    What phase will be when you can start travelling from city to city again?

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



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  • #8692
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    GT89 wrote: »
    The vast majority of people are not dying of Covid 19 they are dying with Covid 19 in their system.


    Congratulations on both your medical qualification not to mention your epoch-shattering and undoubtedly vastly-researched factual contribution to the quickly evolving scientific canon on the novel coronavirus.


  • #8693
    Thepoet85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭Thepoet85


    ShineOn7 wrote:
    Looks like this will be a long one. There's usually a good recap on Reddit after these things so I'll check that later instead. I'll repost here if there is


    Which sub on Reddit?


  • #8694
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    GT89 wrote: »
    How many people are dying of Covid 19 and at the time of death the only illness they have is Covid 19? You know like healthy people with no medical complications my guess that figure in this country would be less than 50 perhaps even less than 20. That would be the true death rate. The vast majority of people are not dying of Covid 19 they are dying with Covid 19 in their system.

    That is absolutely false
    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-warning-as-major-study-finds-most-elderly-victims-would-not-have-died-otherwise-11980675

    Death rate is not calculated based on it's effect on young healthy people only. A huge proportion of the population have other medical problems


  • #8695
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    ChelseaRentBoy wrote: »
    We may never have a vaccine and our lives may be changed forever.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/03/health/coronavirus-vaccine-never-developed-intl/index.html

    :(

    Wouldn't worry about this yet. There's about 40 vaccine programmes running now let's see them start to fail before we begin panicking


  • #8696
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,314 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    ChelseaRentBoy wrote: »
    We may never have a vaccine and our lives may be changed forever.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/03/health/coronavirus-vaccine-never-developed-intl/index.html

    :(
    A safe and effective vaccine could be a while off alright. Treatment options look to be the short and medium term hope and with so many working on that I have high hopes for it.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #8697
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Spain allowed some workers back about 3 weeks ago and numbers still plummeting. 800 odd cases today and just 50 in Madrid which was one of the hardest hit areas.

    Excellent news but in the last few weeks the numbers on weekends have dipped so we'll have to see how they are as the week starts up


  • #8698
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Excellent news but in the last few weeks the numbers on weekends have dipped so we'll have to see how they are as the week starts up

    True, good point. It’s still a dip on previous weekends, so hopefully it continues.


  • #8699
    Wombatman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    The Wuhan lab thing smells like such a frame up.

    Sheriff Trump had his man two weeks ago, without any evidence. Two week later the evidence had been manufactured discovered.

    It's like the Weapons of Mass Destruction lie recycled.


  • #8700
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Looks like this will be a long one. There's usually a good recap on Reddit after these things so I'll check that later instead. I'll repost here if there is
    Thepoet85 wrote: »
    Which sub on Reddit?
    It usually just regurgitates the related press release, and it's as easy just to go the gov.ie website and view it directly....


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  • #8701
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    ChelseaRentBoy wrote: »
    We may never have a vaccine and our lives may be changed forever.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/03/health/coronavirus-vaccine-never-developed-intl/index.html

    :(

    Well that's a bullshït article. Take this for example, "We've never accelerated a vaccine in a year to 18 months," Dr. Peter Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, tells CNN. "It doesn't mean it's impossible, but it will be quite a heroic achievement." And yet in 2009, the H1N1 vaccine was created, tested and mass vaccination began in 5 months. Yes, the creation of a flu vaccine is different, because it's an adaptation of an existing flu vaccine but clinical trials and mass production were all done and completed in that time.


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