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Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

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  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Onesea wrote: »
    I seen a comment on yt, a person mentioned nobody was taking this seriously in South Africa.
    Hope the world doesn't fall apart before lockdown is lifted

    http://www.rfi.fr/en/africa/20200501-relief-for-south-africans-as-covid-19-lockdown-measures-relaxed

    During the lockdown over there people were shot, beaten and jailed for breaking the lockdown, doubt that they weren't talking it seriously.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-52125713


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    People taking the piss altogether today. "Some restrictions loosened on Tuesday" has been taken to mean "Go absolutely ape**** on Saturday". There was a full scale street party going on around the corner?!?

    I'm pro transparency as a rule, but I'm starting to understand why governments might parcel stuff out in small doses. A lot of people are just too stupid and too short sighted to be trusted to use common sense.




    100% this. Irish people are social animals and they don't like being told what to do. When you put those two together, it's a very dangerous mix in this situation

    I know by the time the June 8th one comes around we'll have carnage and a rising RO again. The Irish can't help themselves

    I'm looking at a self enforced lockdown till September until I see just how fúcking stupid we are as a nation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    There's something very, very off about the African numbers. I'm presuming they're barely testing anyone

    Perhaps..or they may have just got lucky and escaped an epidemic, plenty of places in Eastern Europe for example never had any widespread outbreaks. To be fair, most African countries are implementing very severe lockdowns


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,750 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Perhaps..or they may have just got lucky and escaped an epidemic, plenty of places in Eastern Europe for example never had any widespread outbreaks. To be fair, most African countries are implementing very severe lockdowns
    As of 28th April they were testing 3000 per day.

    https://ncdc.gov.ng/reports/weekly


    Not exactly fantastic numbers for a country of 196 million!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,454 ✭✭✭jobeenfitz


    owlbethere wrote: »
    I remember when I was small going to mass in a field. I think it happened once a year or something. I definitely remember going to mass in a field.

    Heres a business opportunity for a field pub.

    We had hedge schools here in 18th and 19th century.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    owlbethere wrote: »
    I remember when I was small going to mass in a field. I think it happened once a year or something. I definitely remember going to mass in a field.

    Heres a business opportunity for a field pub.

    jobeenfitz wrote: »
    We had hedge schools here in 18th and 19th century.


    OK - Famine - Hedge Schools - Reincarnation.


    Think it's Bedtime


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭Me_Grapes


    Miike wrote: »
    What is interesting about those comments? He simple says Sweden took the approach to rely on their citizens. If the solution is relying on Irish people to get it together and follow a similar path we're ****ed. We're totally and utterly ****ed. If the measures we have taken show us anything, it's that we cannot rely on our citizens to do what's in the best interest of society. While the vast majority of people DID follow our guidelines it only takes a hand full of knuckle draggers to **** it up, which we have droves of, as seen in the last few weeks.

    Why single out Ireland, and spew out a load of vitriolic bile, when complementing Sweden and lambasting us for not being up to their standards.

    Virtually every other country in the world has implemented some form of lockdown.

    So maybe its not just Ireland where there's a minority of knuckle draggers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,117 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Meanwhile in the US, this was on the 8th of April

    https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/491715-key-coronavirus-model-revised-downward-predicts-60k-deaths-in-us-by-august
    A key forecasting model used by the White House has revised its prediction of COVID-19 deaths in the U.S., now estimating a peak of 60,415 by early August.

    3rd of May: 67,444 deaths :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    Me_Grapes wrote: »
    Why single out Ireland, and spew out a load of vitriolic bile, when complementing Sweden and lambasting us for not being up to their standards.

    Virtually every other country in the world has implemented some form of lockdown.

    So maybe its not just Ireland where there's a minority of knuckle draggers?

    I haven't once complimented Sweden in their approach. I've reiterated what's in the video that person linked.

    And which part of my post was vitriolic bile? It's a general observation, that a minority of muppets will be the detriment of containing this epidemic as has been demonstrated by gatherings of people consistently occurring across the nation. Is it the hashed our swear words that make it vitriolic bile? Next time I'll use more flowery language so it won't get your back up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,117 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    I'm far from a conspiracy theorist, but I'm leaning towards the Wuhan lab theory tbh. It seems far too much of a coincidence that this major virus just 'happened' to come from the city with China's largest virus laboratory. Their refusal to accept WHO investigating teams also feeds this theory. It's completely plausible.

    https://twitter.com/johnrobertsFox/status/1256576858923073539

    When I brought up this coincidence near the start I was hopped on.

    It's literally a thousand feet from what China describes as the source...

    24803648-8009669-_The_WHCDC_was_also_adjacent_to_the_Union_Hospital_Figure_1_bott-a-1_1582024309482.jpg

    So yeah, it doesn't look great


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,118 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Miike wrote: »
    I haven't once complimented Sweden in their approach. I've reiterated what's in the video that person linked.

    And which part of my post was vitriolic bile? It's a general observation, that a minority of muppets will be the detriment of containing this epidemic as has been demonstrated by gatherings of people consistently occurring across the nation. Is it the hashed our swear words that make it vitriolic bile? Next time I'll use more flowery language so it won't get your back up.

    Ireland like a very few countries has the ethos of policing by consent unlike the likes of Spain, France etc
    Maybe that it's why some people take umbrage at being told what to do
    Was there anything in the new law that would could be upheld if challenged I wonder - too drunk to read thru the constitution laws right now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,118 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    https://twitter.com/johnrobertsFox/status/1256576858923073539

    When I brought up this coincidence near the start I was hopped on.

    It's literally a thousand feet from what China describes as the source...
    t

    But...Wuhan Center for Disease Releases doesn't exist on Google Maps


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    "It notes a 2013 study conducted by a team of researchers, including Dr Shi, who collected a sample of horseshoe bat faeces from a cave in Yunnan province, China, which was later found to contain a virus 96.2 per cent identical to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that caused COVID-19.

    The research dossier also references work done by the team to synthesise SARS-like coronaviruses, to analyse whether they could be transmissible from bats to mammals. This means they were altering parts of the virus to test whether it was transmissible to different species.

    Their November 2015 study, done in conjunction with the University of North Carolina, concluded that the SARS-like virus could jump directly from bats to humans and there was no treatment that could help.

    The study acknowledges the incredible danger of the work they were conducting."

    https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/coronavirus/bombshell-dossier-lays-out-case-against-chinese-bat-virus-program/news-story/55add857058731c9c71c0e96ad17da60


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭snoopboggybog


    I'm here in the US, 5 states are going to be fecked for quite a while from why i can gather, and I'm in one of them. Giving it till the end of May and I'm fecking home then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    https://twitter.com/johnrobertsFox/status/1256576858923073539

    When I brought up this coincidence near the start I was hopped on.

    It's literally a thousand feet from what China describes as the source...

    24803648-8009669-_The_WHCDC_was_also_adjacent_to_the_Union_Hospital_Figure_1_bott-a-1_1582024309482.jpg

    So yeah, it doesn't look great

    I think that map is a fake. I looked up Google maps and the Wuhan lab is well outside the city centre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,108 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    I think that map is a fake. I looked up Google maps and the Wuhan lab is well outside the city centre.

    The map is certainly wrong, as they are just over 7km apart. Still relatively close but not close enough for conspiracy theories.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭ChelseaRentBoy


    The virus coming out of the lab in Wuhan scenario seems to be gathering a lot of traction now among the media. Was discussed extensively last night on CNN for a time. Could China have outright lied to the world about the origin of this thing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    The virus coming out of the lab in Wuhan scenario seems to be gathering a lot of traction now among the media. Was discussed extensively last night on CNN for a time. Could China have outright lied to the world about the origin of this thing?

    I am really surprised that so many people give credence to Trump's efforts at distraction from his woeful handling of the pandemic in the USA.

    USA 4.25% of the world's population.

    USA 1,160,838 cases, approx 32% of the world's reported cases.

    USA 67,448 deaths, approx 25% of the world's reported deaths.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭AllGunsBlazing


    I think that map is a fake. I looked up Google maps and the Wuhan lab is well outside the city centre.


    Different lab?


    There are two in Wuhan. A level 2 Centre for Disease and Control which was dealing in bat coronavirus and is about 4 miles as the bat, err crow flies. And the Wuhan Institute of Virology which is a little over twice that distance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭AllGunsBlazing


    I am really surprised that so many people give credence to Trump's efforts at distraction from his woeful handling of the pandemic in the USA.

    USA 4.25% of the world's population.

    USA 1,160,838 cases, approx 32% of the world's reported cases.

    USA 67,448 deaths, approx 25% of the world's reported deaths.


    Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. It doesn't absolve him of blame but it needs to be properly investigated irregardless.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/health-52508613/coronavirus-how-covid-19-can-hit-the-kidneys

    New figures show more than 2,000 patients admitted to intensive care with Covid-19 suffered kidney failure (20% of UK ICU admissions.

    They all needed specialist renal treatment to keep them alive.

    There is now a shortage of renal dialysis machines emerging in the UK.

    This virus keeps throwing up nasty surprises.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Media briefing at 11 AM on RTE News Now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    The virus coming out of the lab in Wuhan scenario seems to be gathering a lot of traction now among the media. Was discussed extensively last night on CNN for a time. Could China have outright lied to the world about the origin of this thing?

    The answer thus far is "we don't know". Here's a piece from Newsweek. Watch the video. I had no idea they conducted "animal passage" experiments. That is just playing with fire. The lab closest to the sea food market was only biosafety level 2.

    There is a lot of circumstantial evidence.

    https://www.newsweek.com/controversial-wuhan-lab-experiments-that-may-have-started-coronavirus-pandemic-1500503


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,842 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    Different lab?


    There are two in Wuhan. A level 2 Centre for Disease and Control which was dealing in bat coronavirus and is about 4 miles as the bat, err crow flies. And the Wuhan Institute of Virology which is a little over twice that distance.

    So the closest is more than twenty times further away than the map shows and the other forty to fifty times further away?

    I think it's time for wikipedia type citations as there are so many different sides pushing their own agenda.

    American intelligence service issue a statement https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/item/2112-intelligence-community-statement-on-origins-of-covid-19 saying "The Intelligence Community also concurs with the wide scientific consensus that the COVID-19 virus was not manmade or genetically modified." and that they "will continue to rigorously examine emerging information and intelligence to determine whether the outbreak began through contact with infected animals or if it was the result of an accident at a laboratory in Wuhan.”

    While Trump publicly says he has proof that it came from the virology lab in Wuhan but can't tell the same public anything about that proof.

    I have a bridge I'd like to sell to Trump but I can't show it to him or tell him anything about it, but believe me it's the bigliest, bestest bridge ever, tremendous...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/health-52508613/coronavirus-how-covid-19-can-hit-the-kidneys

    New figures show more than 2,000 patients admitted to intensive care with Covid-19 suffered kidney failure (20% of UK ICU admissions.

    They all needed specialist renal treatment to keep them alive.

    There is now a shortage of renal dialysis machines emerging in the UK.

    This virus keeps throwing up nasty surprises.

    Really good little video of Maurice at that site, plus Brian who comes after in next snippet. These are the people who recover and who have been to hell and back to do so. Should be watched by the big dick "my lockdown is over" crew.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭snoopboggybog


    I am really surprised that so many people give credence to Trump's efforts at distraction from his woeful handling of the pandemic in the USA.

    USA 4.25% of the world's population.

    USA 1,160,838 cases, approx 32% of the world's reported cases.

    USA 67,448 deaths, approx 25% of the world's reported deaths.

    US is doing better than Ireland per population.

    Population of Europe is 741 million.

    Population of USA is 340 Million.

    Population of ROI is 4.9 million

    You can do the maths. There's around 6 states badly affected.

    What percentage of Europe make up the people affected?

    Most states are doing excellent and will reopen soon.

    People just love blaming Trump even though he's doing a great job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    98 currently in ICU as of last night.

    Good article in the independent today regarding government and NPHET, seems to be growing unrest of how everything is being handled. NPHET didn't put any dates to the plan that was released the other day that was a government decision.

    Well worth picking up the paper for today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/health-52508613/coronavirus-how-covid-19-can-hit-the-kidneys

    New figures show more than 2,000 patients admitted to intensive care with Covid-19 suffered kidney failure (20% of UK ICU admissions.

    They all needed specialist renal treatment to keep them alive.

    There is now a shortage of renal dialysis machines emerging in the UK.

    This virus keeps throwing up nasty surprises.

    There was an interesting interview on France 24 Last night there was a French and an English medical consultants been interviewed about links of other medical problem been contacted to covid 19 .
    Both were of the opinion that the medical ailments are more likely to be preexisting problems just been highlighted and made worse because people's immune systems are under such pressure fighting the virus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,149 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Has the theory that the virus can be transmitted through human faeces been proven or dismissed?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭snoopboggybog


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Has the theory that the virus can be transmitted through human faeces been proven or dismissed?

    May stop snorting lines of poo.


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