Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

ACitizenErased · 01-05-2020 05:39PM

RebelButtMunch wrote: »

221 is a fierce low number. Did they say how many tests?

Tests are increasing. The case definition changed and referrals are on the up.

RugbyLad11 · 01-05-2020 05:41PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1256240856249643008?s=19

So the 'leak' the other day was real

twirlagig · 01-05-2020 05:44PM

Is there a televised brief on? I’ve RTÉ News Now and it’s not on it

spookwoman · 01-05-2020 05:45PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Tests are increasing. The case definition changed and referrals are on the up.

But nursing homes and care centers prioritized, about 60k to work through just heard one place swabbed last saturday is still waiting on results.

wakka12 · 01-05-2020 05:45PM

Looks like the UK will be lucky to get away with less than 40,000 deaths before June

They really paid for that extra week of no lockdown..the downward trend has barely even begun there compared to France,Spain and Italy

is_that_so · 01-05-2020 05:45PM

RebelButtMunch wrote: »

221 is a fierce low number. Did they say how many tests?

Capacity is well in excess of those requesting tests and you can't make more people test positive!

yermandan · 01-05-2020 05:46PM

twirlagig wrote: »

Is there a televised brief on? I’ve RTÉ News Now and it’s not on it

It's cancelled. Leo on at 6.30

ElTel · 01-05-2020 05:47PM

random_banter wrote: »

Apologies if this has already been posted, looked at the last number of pages but didn't see it.

The census of long term residential homes was published on gov.ie today.

Our first recorded case was in Cork (CUH) 29th February, but this census has one confirmed COVID-19 death in the week up to 13-17th February, and two probable COVID-19 deaths between 24 Feb - 1 Mar.

So is this saying that there were more COVID-10 cases than we knew at that time, and we had it before the 29th Feb?

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/868ad8-mortality-census-of-long-term-residential-care-facilities-1-january-/

There's a typo in the graph axis. it should be 17th-23rd
But looks like our first confirmed case is now in this window.

is_that_so · 01-05-2020 05:48PM

twirlagig wrote: »

Is there a televised brief on? I’ve RTÉ News Now and it’s not on it

Leo expected at 6.30 and if that's not enough for you he's on the Late Late too!

ACitizenErased · 01-05-2020 05:48PM

spookwoman wrote: »

But nursing homes and care centers prioritized, about 60k to work through just heard one place swabbed last saturday is still waiting on results.

Capacity is well in excess of demand. I highly doubt there's 60k backlog.

shinzon · 01-05-2020 05:48PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Capacity is well in excess of those requesting tests and you can't make more people test positive!

No but you can get more people tested at the moment you still have be a part of the priority grouping to get a test

Shin

twirlagig · 01-05-2020 05:50PM

yermandan wrote: »

It's cancelled. Leo on at 6.30

Thanks.

Btw, Is Boards taking forever to load for anyone else?

wakka12 · 01-05-2020 05:50PM

Skynews is such a rag sometimes
This headline though..

'Coronavirus: 'Who's next Daddy, you or me?' Family decimated by COVID-19 as mum and nan die'

https://news.sky.com/story/whos-next-daddy-you-or-me-boys-heartache-after-mum-and-nan-die-11981704

spookwoman · 01-05-2020 05:51PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Capacity is well in excess of demand. I highly doubt there's 60k backlog.

thats how many in homes etc. they are still swabbing places. 26th they said they did just over 40k tests in 1 week. That's about 60k on top of the usual swabs.

Allinall · 01-05-2020 05:52PM

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

So the 'leak' the other day was real

Your link is also a leak.

How do we know it’s real?

ACitizenErased · 01-05-2020 05:52PM

spookwoman wrote: »

thats how many in homes etc. they are swabbing places. 26th they said they did just over 40k tests in 1 week. That's about 60k on top of the usual swabs.

The 40k includes nursing homes as well as usual swabs. It's a total figure. We have capacity for 70k a week.

Fann Linn · 01-05-2020 05:53PM

twirlagig wrote: »

Thanks.

Btw, Is Boards taking forever to load for anyone else?

Slow news day.

speckle · 01-05-2020 05:55PM

random_banter wrote: »

Apologies if this has already been posted, looked at the last number of pages but didn't see it.

The census of long term residential homes was published on gov.ie today.

Our first recorded case was in Cork (CUH) 29th February, but this census has one confirmed COVID-19 death in the week up to 13-17th February, and two probable COVID-19 deaths between 24 Feb - 1 Mar.

So is this saying that there were more COVID-10 cases than we knew at that time, and we had it before the 29th Feb?

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/868ad8-mortality-census-of-long-term-residential-care-facilities-1-january-/

yes early cases where mentioned yesterday that where I think tested retrospectively.
I am now more convinced that our first case (undected or not) was possibly a healthcare worker in the widest sense returning from abroad)(or having had a vistor from abroad). Could be wrong, time will tell.
Edit: this is not to blame or shame anyone.

boardise · 01-05-2020 05:55PM

Edz87 wrote: »

This government's response regarding care homes is criminal. They had all the time in the world but did nothing, they even counter signalled arguments to seal them off. That's whats fu*kng "wearing".

What's wearing is this generated hysteria about nursing /care homes.
Most countries ( plus California and New York with all their wealth and expertise) have experienced the same pattern of clusters in these facilities.
Prof. Mary Horgan explained it calmly and clearly as late as this morning.
These homes have a high level of human traffic in the nature of things -specialists and nurses in and out ,necessarily in close contact . It only requires one to be an asymptomatic spreader and ,once in. the virus wreaks havoc among any immuno-compromised residents .
Also Valerie Moore ,who runs Oakdale, and comes through as a rock of sense said that even with the most trained and conscientious nursing staff with all the equipment -mistakes will be made in the rush and commotion of the moment.

Use of a term like 'criminal'in this context is purely provocative and very wide of the mark.

01-05-2020 05:57PM

Onesea wrote: »

None of the health services crashed bar Italy.And eh SWEDEN

Spain and to a lesser extent France might not agree with you, that's not including some states in the U.S.

splinter65 · 01-05-2020 05:57PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Skynews is such a rag sometimes
This headline though..

'Coronavirus: 'Who's next Daddy, you or me?' Family decimated by COVID-19 as mum and nan die'

https://news.sky.com/story/whos-next-daddy-you-or-me-boys-heartache-after-mum-and-nan-die-11981704

It’s more or less The Sun in tv format. Competing desperately with the BBC News channel where there are no 5 minute commercial breaks and far more feel good stuff ( “3 more cheers for Captain Tom! Here’s Alastair Cook to wish him well!! Stand by for some cute children with rainbows!)

branie2 · 01-05-2020 05:57PM

RIP, the 34 people who died.

walshb · 01-05-2020 05:59PM

What time Leo speaking?

sonofenoch · 01-05-2020 06:02PM

ShayNanigan wrote: »

Looks like the entire rulebook was just thrown out. Now they've got old folks there too celebrating the birthday. After aunts and uncles left the grandparents arrived blocking people's driveway. Everyone happily indoors congregating. I've always known they were selfish #@*% but this confirms it.

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Inquitus · 01-05-2020 06:03PM

walshb wrote: »

What time Leo speaking?

18:30

r93kaey5p2izun · 01-05-2020 06:04PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Skynews is such a rag sometimes
This headline though..

'Coronavirus: 'Who's next Daddy, you or me?' Family decimated by COVID-19 as mum and nan die'

https://news.sky.com/story/whos-next-daddy-you-or-me-boys-heartache-after-mum-and-nan-die-11981704

I'm no fan of Sky News, but I don't see the problem with it. It's a quote from the child's father reporting how his son reacted to the loss. It accurately reflects the story of what that family has experienced.

bekker · 01-05-2020 06:05PM

Been running a SS for moving averages of distributed deaths since 1st death on 11th March.

5, 7, 10, 14 day all have peaked between 20th - 26th Apr.

Only 18 and 21 day still to peak, and provided daily deaths are below 43 each day, they will peak between 1st and 5th May.

political analyst · 01-05-2020 06:05PM

Wibbs wrote: »

I hate the creeping smiling incompetence all too bloody common in this culture. The shure it'll be grand mentality, mixed with a fawning towards one's "betters" in authority, while cocking a snook behind its back. Makes for a peaceful and easygoing, if a tad lacklustre kinda place in general, but in crises like this that same attitude is about as much use as tits on a bull and we're seeing the results.

The problem is P media is hungry for anything to print and will wheel out any old expert to fill their pages. That piece is filled with more maybes than is prudent, or likely accurate. And smells like the same kind of expert that was advising the British government to go for "herd immunity". IIRC that particular news outlet was supportive of that. It also sounds like he's running the 1918 flu pandemic theorised trajectory and applying it to this one.

In any given population I'd comfortably reckon about a third are damned fools. The only way to reach same is by shock. Being nice won't fire up what braincells they can muster.

The cocooning of the elderly and of those younger people with serious underlying health problems (e.g. cystic fibrosis) would have meant that, if the "herd immunity" approach had been chosen, the number of patients in intensive care units (ICUs) would still have been relatively low, wouldn't it? After all, who has a serious underlying health problem without being aware of it?

growleaves · 01-05-2020 06:08PM

boardise wrote: »

What's wearing is this generated hysteria about nursing /care homes.
Most countries ( plus California and New York with all their wealth and expertise) have experienced the same pattern of clusters in these facilities.
Prof. Mary Horgan explained it calmly and clearly as late as this morning.
These homes have a high level of human traffic in the nature of things -specialists and nurses in and out ,necessarily in close contact . It only requires one to be an asymptomatic spreader and ,once in. the virus wreaks havoc among any immuno-compromised residents .
Also Valerie Moore ,who runs Oakdale, and comes through as a rock of sense said that even with the most trained and conscientious nursing staff with all the equipment -mistakes will be made in the rush and commotion of the moment.

Use of a term like 'criminal'in this context is purely provocative and very wide of the mark.

You are right but people came to believe that life and death were simply a matter of choosing the right policy. Many have a very simple and direct "cause-and-effect" understanding of deaths, and the Government/Media/experts have encouraged this.

hotmail.com · 01-05-2020 06:10PM

The 5km limit is unenforceable.

Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

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