Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

timthumbni wrote: »

As a Norn Iron man how are the death figures looking between us and youse In the RofI?

Is it pretty similar or what. I think to round things up NI has about 2M and the Rof I has about 5m.

Come back and ask when you report the real death figures

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

We need to fill our lungs with copper coins, that should help stop the virus.

"Hello Donald, ..."

fritzelly wrote: »

Come back and ask when you report the real death figures

So you have no idea then. Cheers..

So after a tweet by a virgin media news reporter that it's unlikely that the restrictions will be lifted on may 5th, there were replies about the CMO that he will be keeping the restrictions as they apparently like the limelight and we've already flatten the curved they should be lifted.

Ok, so my take on all of this:

1) The UK are reaping what they sown - My heart bleeds for them. They will surpass Italy either tomorrow or the day after with regards to deaths. (Infections will be next week)

2) Germany need to be looked at over the next few days.

3) Haven't a clue what Spain is doing, they need to get a grip before they decent into chaos again.

4) Ireland - The natives are getting restless. The restrictions, and saving the world mantra is wearing a little thin now... Are we ready to behave in an orderly fashion if Leo takes his foot of the gas a little....??? Absolutely not!

If the good Leo bows to public pressure and lifts some restrictions, and we get it wrong, the whole country goes into lock down again.

We need to do this gradually, see what the result are in a fortnight time. If the numbers are good (as in we are behaving ourselves), then lift more restrictions and see what numbers they produce in two weeks time..

People have to understand.. Really understand, this Covid 19 ain't gonna go away anytime soon, it thrives on gatherings, loves the rebellious people among us, loves to party, loves a visit for a coffee and a natter, loves a quick catch up with the family, yep it loves all social activity...

Last week I went shopping, society was like the remnants of a nuclear war, very few people around, the survivors were all gloved up, masked up, keeping a half mile away from their immediate next human being..

Today, one week later... It was like semi - normal? People gathering on Dunnes Stores carpark talking, majority of shoppers no gloves, seen maybe half dozen face masks being sported... Even overheard a young bunch of people (who have no idea what social distancing is...) stating that the lockdown (jail in their terms) ends next Tuesday anyway????

Based on the above, and many more situations, I really don't see an easing up of the restrictions having much (if any) value going forward... until a vaccine is created, I think this is the new life guys.....??

Stheno wrote: »

Sorry I didnt mean to sound glib

I agree I am hoping they publish a plan and timelines, I've been working from home for two months now and most days have no contact with anyone but my partner

It would be good to understand how we get to a 'new' normal

It's grand.

I'm an introvert and don't go out much socially but even as someone who likes their own company it's starting to wear thin.

Edit: sorry when I said "saying things like that" I wasn't referring to you Stheno I was referring to people on twitter. Apologies.

I like most are at home at the moment. I now know how those on the bru live except I can’t be that mobile. How is this going to end though? Economically this is unfathomable. I think my children and their grandchildren will be paying for this economically. Mad times.

flanna01 wrote: »

Ok, so my take on all of this:

1) The UK are reaping what they sown - My heart bleeds for them. They will surpass Italy either tomorrow or the day after with regards to deaths. (Infections will be next week)
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Being a country where there is 2 degrees of separation from someone you know who died from it we dodged the bullet by locking down early
That's a good thing

I really do think there is good logic behind opening up the counties hit less bad (some reporter must have been reading my posts) - if it gets bad then shut up shop again but those counties in the +/- 100 mark you are closing the county for the sake of very little numbers of infection who have been identified and numbers are only creeping it up very slowly as to be expected in family units

It would at least get the country moving again and stop crippling the economy so much
Leitrim - hardly any cases, 27 new cases in 2 weeks, 12 in the past week

I still find it amazing, I know I'm repeating myself, that over the last few weeks people have fallen into the trap of thinking that because the absolute worst case scenario hasn't happened that the virus isn't as dangerous as what they thought.

That is not the case. All that has happened is that the knockdown has been effective. The worst case scenario hasn't materialized because of the lock down.

The lock down is not the biggest threat to your life, the virus is.

Despite all the restrictions on movement now for weeks we still have nearly 1200 deaths and 20000 cases. Think about that. We've all been on lock down for ages and yet those numbers are pretty stark. This thing is deadly and spreads like nobody's business. If we take our foot off the gas now... people need to think of the consequences. We had 2,000 cases and 22 deaths when the lock down proper began and the numbers still sky-rocketed, despite all our limited movements. It's inevitably going to get out of hand again.

But, I totally agree, that there needs to be a road map out of this too. That has to be the priority for the government's/DOH approach. And it has to be as clear as day. For instance, we can not move to lifting some restrictions until we have reached a certain number of ICU admissions or a verifiable low amount of cases.

I still find it amazing, I know I'm repeating myself, that over the last few weeks people have fallen into the trap of thinking that because the absolute worst case scenario hasn't happened that the virus isn't as dangerous as what they thought.

That is not the case. All that has happened is that the knockdown has been effective. The worst case scenario hasn't materialized because of the lock down.

So do you believe that over 400 million deaths would occur without the lockdowns (equivalent to Spanish Flu deaths in terms of today's global population)? That was the worst 'official' worst-case scenario

The worst ones from this thread indicate a fifth of the infected population would die - potentially billions. Bit of a jump from 200k to that.

Watching sky news.

The UK are screwed.