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Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

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  • #6092
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    www.independent.ie/business/farming/news/world-news/mink-found-to-have-coronavirus-on-two-dutch-farms-ministry-39159083.html

    Some more animals with the virus. Minks in the Netherlands.

    This is so scary. The virus going from people to animals.

    What needs to be established now is if it can go from animals back into people. That would be a fairly fcuked situation. Also can animals pass it to each other.


  • #6093
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Bizarre how many different species this virus has been able to transfer to

    Dog,cat, lion, tiger, mink


  • #6094
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,208 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Trump said '' i had a great phone call with '' someone, i dunno who, ,,,, and then said '' i'm sure you know, some of you were on the line , even,though you weren't suppose to be''

    Threw in that remark to the reporters.

    He has said that a few times now.


  • #6095
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Have you something to back that claim up ? As we're constantly being told its suppressed in the community.

    Issue is nursing homes and long term care settings

    Yes I do. The cumulative % is stuck in the 60s and is not dropping, if it were close to zero, from when they said that it was, given the substantial number of new since then the cumulative figure should have fallen significantly.

    last two days 1000 new cases should have dropped cum. community transmission % by approx 3%

    .6*19,000/20,000=.57


  • #6096
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Unsurprisingly Brazil is heading to be the worst affected large nation on earth
    Cases of the new coronavirus are overwhelming hospitals, morgues and cemeteries across Brazil as Latin America's largest nation veers closer to becoming one of the world's pandemic hot spots.
    https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/brazil-becoming-virus-outbreak-centre-as-hospitals-reach-breaking-point-1.4911295


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  • #6097
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,402 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    owlbethere wrote: »
    www.independent.ie/business/farming/news/world-news/mink-found-to-have-coronavirus-on-two-dutch-farms-ministry-39159083.html

    Some more animals with the virus. Minks in the Netherlands.

    This is so scary. The virus going from people to animals.

    What needs to be established now is if it can go from animals back into people. That would be a fairly fcuked situation. Also can animals pass it to each other.

    No evidence of that so far. They've found that cats are particularly susceptible to getting Covid from humans.


  • #6098
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Paediatric cardiologists in Milan, London, Madrid and Lisbon investigate links between COVID and an alarming rise number of cases of severe inflammatory disease among infants arriving in hospital with high fevers and swollen arteries. Most concerningly is that the trend was most prominent in Bergamo, one of Europe's hardest hit cities in the pandemic.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-syndrome/italy-uk-explore-possible-covid-19-link-to-child-inflammatory-disease-idUSKCN2292JM?il=0&utm_source=reddit.com

    No proven link as yet at all. Just concerning that this rise conincided in several european cities during this time with the pandemic. Only some of the children presenting at the hospital tested positive for COVID.

    Americans doctors are sceptical that is anything more than a rare phenomena and the trend has not been reported at any hospitals in the US so far.


  • #6099
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    https://www.thatsfarming.com/news/cats-found-to-be-most-susceptible-to-covid-19

    This is from the 11th of April.

    It looks like cats if they become infected can spread it to other cats. Cats are wh0res going from neighbouring houses. Fcuking hell.


  • #6100
    Lyle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Lyle


    owlbethere wrote: »
    https://www.thatsfarming.com/news/cats-found-to-be-most-susceptible-to-covid-19

    This is from the 11th of April.

    It looks like cats if they become infected can spread it to other cats. Cats are wh0res going from neighbouring houses. Fcuking hell.

    We locked our cat down a few weeks ago to be safe. She's still pissed off at me, but I just can't trust her. Too much wanderlust and loves a scrap, the hoor


  • #6101
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    https://www.newsweek.com/half-people-new-york-city-know-someone-who-has-died-coronavirus-poll-finds-1500416

    Half of people in New York claim to know somebody who has died from COVID


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  • #6102
    nocoverart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    owlbethere wrote: »
    https://www.thatsfarming.com/news/cats-found-to-be-most-susceptible-to-covid-19

    This is from the 11th of April.

    It looks like cats if they become infected can spread it to other cats. Cats are wh0res going from neighbouring houses. Fcuking hell.

    Dogs are better than Cats, I said it... shoot me!


  • #6103
    New Home
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 78,244 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    nocoverart wrote: »
    Dogs are better than Cats, I said it... shoot me!

    Ok, we will!


  • #6104
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Paediatric cardiologists in Milan, London, Madrid and Lisbon investigate links between COVID and an alarming rise number of cases of severe inflammatory disease among infants arriving in hospital with high fevers and swollen arteries.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-syndrome/italy-uk-explore-possible-covid-19-link-to-child-inflammatory-disease-idUSKCN2292JM?il=0&utm_source=reddit.com

    No proven link as yet at all. Just concerning that this rise conincided in several european cities during this time with the pandemic. Only some of the children presenting at the hospital tested positive for COVID.

    This is so sad and upsetting. I don't think our picture was very clear at all here in Europe when this emerged. Its a novel coronavirus. Its new. We were told children don't suffer with this virus. How do the professionals know this with a new virus? China and Europe were different in tackling this virus too. I think in China, infected people were isolated quickly from their families. Here in Europe, we were told to isolate ourselves into our own bedrooms. Every home is different. Some families might only have the one bathroom and can't fully isolate themselves away from the family. Basically the virus will get more of a foothold in families here. We can potentially see more damage done here to children because infected people are not being isolated.


  • #6105
    ShooterSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Collection of pints? How does that work? Have a sit down while collecting, maybe?

    No idea! Just been told it will be pints in plastic glasses. I'm guessing some kind of insane queue system outside it. I haven't asked much because I know it is only going to depress me more!
    helimachoptor wrote: »
    Noggin Inn?

    No. I'm guessing that is Dublin? Not in Dublin..


  • #6106
    DevilsHaircut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    There are many different antibody tests by different manufacturers. Some with very good results.

    https://finddx.shinyapps.io/COVID19DxData/


  • #6107
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    What on earth are you talking about?

    Community transmission cumulative percentage. Can you explain why it isn't falling?


  • #6108
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    timsey tiger wrote: »
    Community transmission cumulative percentage. Can you explain why it isn't falling?
    Because for every 150 close contact cases there's probably 150 community tranmission cases detected in residential settings.


  • #6109
    [Deleted User]
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    owlbethere wrote: »
    This is so sad and upsetting. I don't think our picture was very clear at all here in Europe when this emerged. Its a novel coronavirus. Its new. We were told children don't suffer with this virus. How do the professionals know this with a new virus? China and Europe were different in tackling this virus too. I think in China, infected people were isolated quickly from their families. Here in Europe, we were told to isolate ourselves into our own bedrooms. Every home is different. Some families might only have the one bathroom and can't fully isolate themselves away from the family. Basically the virus will get more of a foothold in families here. We can potentially see more damage done here to children because infected people are not being isolated.

    What they meant by children not suffering with covid was that they seen that they were indeed infected but in the main not required to be hospitalised due to severe breathing difficulties etc as with adults, so they were seen more as spreaders.
    This is of course in relation to school kids and not infants, there have been recorded cases of babies dying from covid.


  • #6110
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Because for every 150 close contact cases there's probably 150 community tranmission cases detected in residential settings.

    So with all the testing in nursing homes now (a closed environment)you are trying to contend that we can't work out who half the patients were in contact with. yeah.

    Even if this were true only about half of the recent cases are nursing homes so cum. percentage should still be falling.


  • #6111
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3585561

    Interesting study from Indonesia. Majority of patients (out of 780) who died of COVID-19 were Vitamin D deficient.


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  • #6112
    ACitizenErased
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    timsey tiger wrote: »
    So with all the testing in nursing homes now (a closed environment)you are trying to contend that we can't work out who half the patients were in contact with. yeah.

    Even if this were true only about half of the recent cases are nursing homes so cum. percentage should still be falling.
    I don't think you realise how difficult it is to track tranmission.


  • #6113
    dundalkfc10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Why is most other countries letting people know what's been said, decided etc at a Public Health emergency meetings and we are not because of workload?

    Does every meeting not begin with agreement of minutes from the previous meeting so they have all the info anyway. How hard is it to get it onto a PDF for a exmple


  • #6114
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,148 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    dundalkfc10 wrote: »
    Why is most other countries letting people know what's been said, decided etc at a Public Health emergency meetings and we are not because of workload?

    Does every meeting not begin with agreement of minutes from the previous meeting so they have all the info anyway. How hard is it to get it onto a PDF for a exmple

    What other countries are letting everyone know what is being talked about behind closed doors in regards to this virus
    It's just a few anti government conspirators who just see it as a chance to take a pop at the government
    Does it really matter what is said, most of it will be banal stuff, other stuff would probably frighten people
    I would rather the people involved deal with the crisis than be ticking boxes on releasing minutes that very few people would even bother reading.


  • #6115
    dundalkfc10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    fritzelly wrote: »
    What other countries are letting everyone know what is being talked about behind closed doors in regards to this virus
    It's just a few anti government conspirators who just see it as a chance to take a pop at the government
    Does it really matter what is said, most of it will be banal stuff, other stuff would probably frighten people
    I would rather the people involved deal with the crisis than be ticking boxes on releasing minutes that very few people would even bother reading.

    Just 1 example is New Zealand live stream every meeting.

    All of our meetings are published them here upto 11 April and nothing since


  • #6116
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I don't think you realise how difficult it is to track tranmission.

    So you contend that we can't figure how half the people in a building catch an illness, with records of who is entering, leaving, visiting rooms etc.

    Because it is hard to track transmission and yet at the same time we are able to fully track it for the community at large. Where we are doing relatively less testing in the recent past.

    That cannot be a consistent argument.

    On top of it being a hello of a lot easier in a single building than in the community at large, which environment will have the preponderance of symptom free carriers, the ones we are not checking?


  • #6117
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    Lyle wrote: »
    We locked our cat down a few weeks ago to be safe. She's still pissed off at me, but I just can't trust her. Too much wanderlust and loves a scrap, the hoor
    Mine only goes out for a poo in the back garden of the empty house up the road and we locked him down too. He's such a good boy and I feel absolutely wretched about it.


  • #6118
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,148 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    s1ippy wrote: »
    Mine only goes out for a poo in the back garden of the empty house up the road and we locked him down too. He's such a good boy and I feel absolutely wretched about it.

    That's not an empty house, I live there - cats are evil, never sh*t on their own doorstep


  • #6119
    YFlyer
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    wakka12 wrote: »
    Or the tests dont work accurately.
    It's also false to say the antibody tests dont work just because Claire tested negative, there are examples of infected developing few to no antibodies, though this only occurs in about 6% of cases.

    Yet there are claims from antibody tests that up to 30% of New York got infected.


  • #6120
    igCorcaigh
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    wakka12 wrote: »
    Unsurprisingly Brazil is heading to be the worst affected large nation on earth


    https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/brazil-becoming-virus-outbreak-centre-as-hospitals-reach-breaking-point-1.4911295

    Good podcast on Guardian Today In Focus about Brazil.

    https://podplayer.net/?id=103339934


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  • #6121
    V8 Interceptor
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    So New Zealand is virus free with a grand total of 19 dead. Ireland has eleven hundred and counting and is ranked 7th worst Country in the World.

    A damning indictment of the Government's handling of the situation?


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