Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

27-04-2020 10:46PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Businesses need to know this week what's happening

Informing them on Monday night about Tuesday morning would be rediculous

Id say youll see it extended by few days (though upto 2 weeks is possible still imo)

Informing general public anytime before monday and the beaches etc will be packed

stephenjmcd · 27-04-2020 10:48PM

A decent set of clips to start the claire byrne show, showing clips of the CMO on the late late show saying he was optimistic and saying we were going in the right direction and now his press conferences from this week.

Any wonder why people are getting slightly annoyed regarding mixed messages ?

Oh and for anyone interested Claire Byrne is taking an antibody test in a while

helimachoptor · 27-04-2020 10:50PM

ShooterSF wrote: »

So a few here might remember me ranting about the pub I work for and their total neglect for the measures people were asked to follow before the bars were forced to close. Well now they are opening for collection of pints guess barwork is an essential service.

Noggin Inn?

fritzelly · 27-04-2020 10:50PM

New Home wrote: »

Look up "Pandemic bonds"... it's enlightening. :mad:

Ohh I know :rolleyes:

RugbyLad11 · 27-04-2020 10:50PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Id say youll see it extended by few days (though upto 2 weeks is possible still imo)

Informing general public anytime before monday and the beaches etc will be packed

It looks like it will be a wet weekend so the beaches are hardly gonna be packed

UrbanFret · 27-04-2020 10:50PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Id say youll see it extended by few days (though upto 2 weeks is possible still imo)

Informing general public anytime before monday and the beaches etc will be packed

I think the good old Irish weather might just save the day.;)

stephenjmcd · 27-04-2020 10:52PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Id say youll see it extended by few days (though upto 2 weeks is possible still imo)

Informing general public anytime before monday and the beaches etc will be packed

Hardly going to be packed when the weather looks quite poor and garda checkpoints everywhere

Jim_Hodge · 27-04-2020 10:54PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Businesses need to know this week what's happening

Informing them on Monday night about Tuesday morning would be rediculous

They are not going to announced eased restrictions before Monday. It would be sheer madness to do so on a long weekend. Not too many businesses will be reopening immediately any way.

Rob A. Bank · 27-04-2020 10:58PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Like when they refused to call it a Pandemic til every country bar one or two had it?
Not our fault you've got thousands dead - idiots

The World Health organization declared their highest level of alarm on January 30th when there were only 82 cases and no deaths registered outside China and eight known cases of human-to-human transmission of the disease in China.

That is a 'Public Health Emergency of International Concern'. The word 'pandemic' does not feature in their alarm levels.

I am not sure what the hell more you expect from them !

fritzelly · 27-04-2020 10:59PM

WTF is this Trump briefing???

bekker · 27-04-2020 11:00PM

Method of distributing total reported probable deaths over period from 11th March
1. Cumulated daily deaths (netted of removed deaths on day reported removed).
2. Totalled probable deaths, derived a weight of 0.233, applied to net daily deaths to arrive at a daily probable death figure and cumulated.
3. Combined 1 and 2 for each day and plotted against day elapsed.

Source https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/20f2e0-updates-on-covid-19-coronavirus-since-january-2020/

froog · 27-04-2020 11:00PM

i thought trump took the ball and went home in a sulk?

kyote00 · 27-04-2020 11:01PM

Basically pushing all responsiliby to the states so he can get on with golfing

fritzelly · 27-04-2020 11:05PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

The World Health organization declared their highest level of alarm on January 30th when there were only 82 cases and no deaths registered outside China and eight known cases of human-to-human transmission of the disease in China.

That is a 'Public Health Emergency of International Concern'. The word 'pandemic' does not feature in their alarm levels.

I am not sure what the hell more you expect from them !

Have you forgotten when this was patently obvious to every country and their dog it was a pandemic the WHO decided their own criteria for declaring a pandemic was wrong and so could not declare a pandemic
Total cop out by them and now passing the buck to all the countries

fritzelly · 27-04-2020 11:06PM

Is there any press at this briefing or is it all industry?

Notice a lot quieter tonight with the VM outage...running my pc off the phone's data

Atlantic Dawn · 27-04-2020 11:07PM

Next on CBL, handgel is highly flammable, if the virus don't get you the fire will.

Strumms · 27-04-2020 11:07PM

kyote00 wrote: »

Basically pushing all responsiliby to the states so he can get on with golfing

He’s not come out of the initial covid response well at all, he’s been piss poor. He’s been criticized from all corners, rightly so. Now he’s putting the responsibility back on the states. The shi*tiest leadership tactic, we’ve all seen this in workplaces,, manager fûcks up then blames the staff.

10000maniacs · 27-04-2020 11:11PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Clue is in the poor language.

The clue is 2K to 5k. How would that be any different?

stephenjmcd · 27-04-2020 11:19PM

Claire Byrne anti body test negative, safe to say the test doesn't work

fritzelly · 27-04-2020 11:24PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Claire Byrne anti body test negative, safe to say the test doesn't work

When did they get a reliable antibody test kit?

podgeandrodge · 27-04-2020 11:25PM

fritzelly wrote: »

When did they get a reliable antibody test kit?

Did you not know? Claire gets everything first.

Strazdas · 27-04-2020 11:35PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Claire Byrne anti body test negative, safe to say the test doesn't work

Or she's not actually immune? This is what the WHO were warning about a few days ago

wakka12 · 27-04-2020 11:38PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Or she's not actually immune? This is what the WHO were warning about a few days ago

Or the tests dont work accurately.
It's also false to say the antibody tests dont work just because Claire tested negative, there are examples of infected developing few to no antibodies, though this only occurs in about 6% of cases.

speckle · 27-04-2020 11:40PM

https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-current-situation/covid-19-current-cases
First time really looking at New Zealand stats in ages. Dont want to get into a comparsion debate but what stood out for me was considering it being an island in middle of nowhere was its 39% imported re travel figure. Was this mainly repatriations or just people away and coming back?
And I wonder did the emergency of the recent devasting earthquakes, help prepare them practically and pyschologically somewhat for covid?
Anyhow, well done New Zealand keep up the good work.

Anita Blow · 27-04-2020 11:42PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Or she's not actually immune? This is what the WHO were warning about a few days ago

If she's not immune despite being previously COVID+ then that is a possible inherent problem with antibody tests.
There's a few case reports of people who developed only mild infection who didn't mount enough of an immune response to confer sustained immunity, which is why the question of immunity post-infection is still up in the air.

BorneTobyWilde · 27-04-2020 11:47PM

Trump said '' i had a great phone call with '' someone, i dunno who, ,,,, and then said '' i'm sure you know, some of you were on the line , even,though you weren't suppose to be''

Threw in that remark to the reporters.

Rob A. Bank · 27-04-2020 11:48PM

Anita Blow wrote: »

If she's not immune despite being previously COVID+ then that is a possible inherent problem with antibody tests.
There's a few case reports of people who developed only mild infection who didn't mount enough of an immune response to confer sustained immunity, which is why the question of immunity post-infection is still up in the air.

It also leaves the rational for the unethical and dangerous 'Herd Immunity' strategy in ruins.

Jinglejangle69 · 27-04-2020 11:50PM

When there is a credible test or vaccine we will hear about it from our CMO.

Otherwise stop swallowing everything.

Claire Byrne should know better.

timsey tiger · 27-04-2020 11:57PM

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Have to disagree with you there...The efficacy of masks is wholly dependent on be using correctly...The mask should only be touched putting them on and taking them off...People think masks are as good as Hazmat suits with regards to providing protection...Which inevitability isn't the case from what i continue to see...its anecdotal i know, but anyone i see out in public wearing a mask is literally doing all the things one needs to avoid in order for the mask to do its job

anecdotes and taught experiments are all well ang good, in the absence of evidence, but should not replace evidence.

Strazdas · 28-04-2020 12:03AM

Anita Blow wrote: »

If she's not immune despite being previously COVID+ then that is a possible inherent problem with antibody tests.
There's a few case reports of people who developed only mild infection who didn't mount enough of an immune response to confer sustained immunity, which is why the question of immunity post-infection is still up in the air.

That would be very worrying. In that scenario, you couldn't be sure who was immune or not and it would make a nonsense of the 'herd immunity' idea.

Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

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