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Is kim jong un dead ?

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    #62
    normanoffside
    Registered Users Posts: 9,926 ✭✭✭normanoffside


    Taken too soon, why do all the good ones go first?
    RIP Kim, rest with the angles.


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    #63
    matchthis
    Registered Users Posts: 1,868 ✭✭✭matchthis


    He did a great interview with David Skylark a few years back


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    #64
    cj maxx
    Registered Users Posts: 13,354 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    bazz26 wrote: »
    If it is true that the crazy tyrant is dead then one down and one to go:

    Screen-Shot-2017-08-11-at-8.23.17-PM-1024x495.png

    Are they related?


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    #65
    refusetolose
    Registered Users Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭refusetolose


    https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/1254202156632223744


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    #66
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    It was CNN the other day and now it's TMZ. I would imagine the "Source" tried everyone else then went to the bottom of the barrel in CNN, then when the story didn't work out the other day, the source found one notch below in TMZ. It will be Huffington Post next.


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    #67
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Irish_rat wrote: »
    Sister looks seriously demented. First woman to dictate NK

    Oh no! She’s not managed by Noel Kelly as well, is she? She’s bound to get the gig if she is!


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    #68
    valoren
    Registered Users Posts: 5,458 ✭✭✭valoren


    Sultan of Bling wrote: »
    I wouldnt say no.

    This sucker is about to go Nuclear!


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    #69
    Gooey Looey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Gooey Looey


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Taken too soon, why do all the good ones go first?
    RIP Kim, rest with the angles.

    RIP in piece


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    #70
    overkill602
    Registered Users Posts: 267 ✭✭overkill602


    Looks like he a vegie so brain dead
    Ha Ha the heart surgeon botched the op because hands where shaking with fear probably had a couple of underwear changes as well


    https://www.thesun.ie/news/5361448/kim-jong-un-dead-north-korea-heart-op-china/


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    #71
    Littlehorny
    Registered Users Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭Littlehorny


    I thought North Korea's god like leaders were above such human needs as breathing, drinking and taking a s***.
    Was it just his father who made these wild claims about his abilities and deeds and the son try's to come across as human?
    Anyway, may he die roaring, evil c***


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    #72
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Next after Adolf the most popular dictator on boards.


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    #73
    secman
    Registered Users Posts: 6,226 ✭✭✭secman


    Gooey Looey wrote: »
    RIP in piece

    I can here the angles sign :)


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    #74
    Rockbeast2
    Registered Users Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Rockbeast2


    The sister is a fine thing. I would.


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    #75
    Class MayDresser
    Closed Accounts Posts: 395 ✭✭Class MayDresser


    Can't understand the animosity here, like what did he ever do to anyone in Ireland? Fly like eagle O Great Un!


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    #76
    Pauliedragon
    Registered Users Posts: 2,458 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    Rockbeast2 wrote: »
    The sister is a fine thing. I would.
    I would too but she's probably a psycho. You'd get the Lorena Bobbitt treatment if you annoyed her.


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    #77
    Sofiztikated
    Registered Users Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    The sister has been in charge the last couple of weeks, and another time she stood in for him as well.

    She's supposed to take over, until the Jong Un's son turns of age, or dies in a freak accident.

    Now, completely judging a book by its cover, she's as sharp as a tack, and wicked as ****. She'll either out nutjob IL and Un, or drag NK kicking and screaming into the 21st century.


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    #78
    Vita nova
    Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Vita nova


    donvito99 wrote: »
    No he was revived and renamed Kim Jung Deux
    Other rumours that he'll be replaced by his sister Kim Jong Une


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    #79
    HBC08
    Registered Users Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭HBC08


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    It was CNN the other day and now it's TMZ. I would imagine the "Source" tried everyone else then went to the bottom of the barrel in CNN, then when the story didn't work out the other day, the source found one notch below in TMZ. It will be Huffington Post next.

    TMZ is a thrash/gossip site.However when they actually confirm a rumour or story you can take it as gospel and they're often the first to have it.
    By the way they have said they are NOT confirming that he is dead,just saying it is reported.


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    #80
    branie2
    Registered Users Posts: 10,288 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    If he was dead, it would be confirmed on the news


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    #81
    Lucy8080
    Registered Users Posts: 1,969 ✭✭✭Lucy8080


    Dead or alive ,the Chinese Government will be managing this whole situation. North Korea is totally dependent on Chinese support.

    I wonder do they see them as a loose cannon at times. Or, if North Korea take advantage of the cover they give to China.

    Both are rotten states.

    Their ordinary /average people are some of the finest in the world.


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    #82
    Chalk McHugh
    Registered Users Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Chalk McHugh


    The surgeon who's shaky hands seem to have left Rocket man in a vegetative state may not have got a good nights sleep last night.


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    #83
    Ash3070
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭Ash3070


    So I googled around to see who would be next in line. Officially he has no children as none of them have ever been displayed to the Korean public. However he did mention a child at the summit with Trump. South Korean and American intelligence have also indicated that he has a 10 year old son, a seven year old and a 3 year old daughter. 10 year old is obviously too young to take over now if his father IS dead.

    He had 2 brothers, one of whom he famously murdered. The other one, the eldest Kim Jong-chul, is unlikely to step in. He has staunchly refused to involve himself in politics and prefers to just play guitar. So most likely it would go to the sister, Kim Yojong. He's been grooming her as a successor and in recent years, she's taken a much stronger involvement in politics and leadership. Interestingly(?) there has never been a female dictator to come into power in her own right, they've all seized power after the deaths of their dictator husband. Kim Yojong would of course also be taking power due to the death of a close male dictator, however she would be the first female dictator in history to have not been married to the previous one. Not useful information really but I thought it was interesting :) However like most countries run by dictators, North Korea are an extremely conservative country, unlikely to accept a female leader.

    The ONLY other possible heir would be his nephews, Kim Han-sol, Kim Kum-sol and Kim Geum-sol. All unlikely given that they're currently in hiding as the sons of the brother Kim Jong-un assassinated.

    It's also possible that the North Korean government could install a general unrelated to the Kim family. This would be notable however given that they would be the first person to rule unrelated to Kim Il-sung, the famous general who 'liberated' North Koreans and founded the nation (even though there's a lot of evidence that the person who went on to take power wasn't actually the real Kim Il-sung, that the real Kim Il-sung died in battle). North Koreans viewed KIS and to a slightly lesser extent, Kim Jong-Il as gods. This facade slipped a lot when they died, gods don't die after all. While Kim Jong-un is revered, it's not the way his father and grandfather were. It's not really because of divine right but for a lot of people it's because they don't want to be punished - and they don't want generations of their family to end up in gulags.

    If power is given to someone outside of the Kim family though, the curtain is finally ripped off for good. It could VERY easily lead to civil war. Not something we really want with a country with a nuclear arsenal. Maybe down the line, a civil war could lead to reunification, however short and medium term, it's just going to be trouble.


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    #84
    irishgeo
    Registered Users Posts: 9,369 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    Ash3070 wrote: »
    So I googled around to see who would be next in line. Officially he has no children as none of them have ever been displayed to the Korean public. However he did mention a child at the summit with Trump. South Korean and American intelligence have also indicated that he has a 10 year old son, a seven year old and a 3 year old daughter. 10 year old is obviously too young to take over now if his father IS dead.

    He had 2 brothers, one of whom he famously murdered. The other one, the eldest Kim Jong-chul, is unlikely to step in. He has staunchly refused to involve himself in politics and prefers to just play guitar. So most likely it would go to the sister, Kim Yojong. He's been grooming her as a successor and in recent years, she's taken a much stronger involvement in politics and leadership. Interestingly(?) there has never been a female dictator to come into power in her own right, they've all seized power after the deaths of their dictator husband. Kim Yojong would of course also be taking power due to the death of a close male dictator, however she would be the first female dictator in history to have not been married to the previous one. Not useful information really but I thought it was interesting :) However like most countries run by dictators, North Korea are an extremely conservative country, unlikely to accept a female leader.

    The ONLY other possible heir would be his nephews, Kim Han-sol, Kim Kum-sol and Kim Geum-sol. All unlikely given that they're currently in hiding as the sons of the brother Kim Jong-un assassinated.

    It's also possible that the North Korean government could install a general unrelated to the Kim family. This would be notable however given that they would be the first person to rule unrelated to Kim Il-sung, the famous general who 'liberated' North Koreans and founded the nation (even though there's a lot of evidence that the person who went on to take power wasn't actually the real Kim Il-sung, that the real Kim Il-sung died in battle). North Koreans viewed KIS and to a slightly lesser extent, Kim Jong-Il as gods. This facade slipped a lot when they died, gods don't die after all. While Kim Jong-un is revered, it's not the way his father and grandfather were. It's not really because of divine right but for a lot of people it's because they don't want to be punished - and they don't want generations of their family to end up in gulags.

    If power is given to someone outside of the Kim family though, the curtain is finally ripped off for good. It could VERY easily lead to civil war. Not something we really want with a country with a nuclear arsenal. Maybe down the line, a civil war could lead to reunification, however short and medium term, it's just going to be trouble.
    Thats exactly what china doesn't want. The second thing it doesn't want is the south Korea/USA getting a foothold should a power vacuum occur. China doesnt want the USA on its door step.


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    #85
    cj maxx
    Registered Users Posts: 13,354 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    I can't believe he is/ was only 36 from his photo.
    Looks like hes been swilling pints for years


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    Ash3070
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭Ash3070


    irishgeo wrote: »
    Thats exactly what china doesn't want. The second thing it doesn't want is the south Korea/USA getting a foothold should a power vacuum occur. China doesnt want the USA on its door step.

    True, but China know that if they step in militarily then the U.S is obligated to South Korea to step in as well. And with THAAD pointing straight at North Korea (and conveniently also being in range of a large part of China), China probably are going to be very cautious about how they assist North Korea...basically if China do get involved, it'll escalate into an even larger mess of potentially nuclear proportions...


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    #87
    archer22
    Registered Users Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Class MayDresser wrote: »
    Can't understand the animosity here, like what did he ever do to anyone in Ireland? Fly like eagle O Great Un!

    Because a lot of Irish think they are Americans.


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    #88
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I hope he's dead, and that the society now opens up and maybe even joins South Korea.
    It happened for Communist East Germany..

    Most of all I hope all the people in NK prisons are let free soon.

    Communism is such a monstrosity.
    It's true what they say; "capitalism builds walls to keep people out. Communism builds walls to keep people in."


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    #89
    sjb25
    Registered Users Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭sjb25


    biko wrote: »
    I hope he's dead, and that the society now opens up and maybe even joins South Korea.
    It happened for Communist East Germany..

    Most of all I hope all the people in NK prisons are let free soon.

    Communism is such a monstrosity.
    It's true what they say; "capitalism builds walls to keep people out. Communism builds walls to keep people in."

    .


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    #90
    Degag
    Registered Users Posts: 9,952 ✭✭✭Degag


    Chalk McHugh wrote: »
    If he is dead the 5 million mass gathering at his funeral could wipe the whole country out with Covid. Every cloud.......

    Very strange post. Wipe out a whole country of innocent oppressed people just because they have a madman in charge?


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    #91
    fryup
    Registered Users Posts: 18,069 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    is there anyway to find out?? even through the dark web?


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