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Is kim jong un dead ?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,407 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    He's the last of the old schoolers, world would be a much dimmer place without him, ever the entertainer he even fired off a few missiles during the lockdown to keep folk entertained.

    north-korea-coronavirus.jpg?w=800&quality=85


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭Tork


    Irish_rat wrote: »
    Sister looks seriously demented. First woman to dictate NK

    If nothing else, she has looked after herself better and is less likely to be a heart attack on two legs. Appearances can be deceptive but she looks terrifying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    I read a couple of days ago that he's in very bad health from years of heavy smoking, obesity and over work. Wouldnt surprise me if he is dead.

    Did he strike you as a workaholic? Not one for conspiracy theories, but I wouldn’t fancy being put under for anything if I’d pissed off as many people as him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭Tork


    I think all that timber he was carrying was every bit as dangerous as a wannabe assassin. Surgeons don't like having to operate on people who are as obese as he is. It's risky.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    Wtf ? wrote: »
    All over the internet, Anyone know ?

    Hopefully.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 343 ✭✭Wtf ?


    All said and done, He was/is a wanker. Fcuk Him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Rodman stated that Kim smokes 4 packs of cigs a day.

    Also drinks like a fish apparently.


    Its known that he suffered some sort of cardiac incident a week ago because a team of doctors were sent from China to assist with treatment.


    He could very well be dead.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭TheRepentent


    Wtf ? wrote: »
    All over the internet, Anyone know ?
    yep...a stuck fart apparently

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    https://www.btselem.org/



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,450 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Yes he's dead



    Dead sexy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Why The Flip would he be?

    He had heart surgery.

    He had diabetes and hypertension also. He was also a smoker. He was rumored to have had previous heart attacks or at least some kind of bad turns as described by witnesses.

    He was/is a very ill man.

    Whatever about his heart surgery he has other conditions that won't be solved by it.

    I don't know if he is now ok or to believe the rumors.

    Its not crazy to think after heart surgery you wouldn't be seen publicly for two weeks.





    But Rueters (a reliable source) has said that China sent a medical team to advise on Kim's health. I am assuming north Korea has its own Drs for the ruling class so it does look serious.


    But this is how his father's death went. He just wasn't seen publicly for a long time. Then it was confirmed that he was dead much later after his son had taken power.

    Kim Jong Un could emerge again in a few months who knows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,129 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Taken too soon, why do all the good ones go first?
    RIP Kim, rest with the angles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,877 ✭✭✭matchthis


    He did a great interview with David Skylark a few years back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,539 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    bazz26 wrote: »
    If it is true that the crazy tyrant is dead then one down and one to go:

    Screen-Shot-2017-08-11-at-8.23.17-PM-1024x495.png

    Are they related?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭refusetolose




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    It was CNN the other day and now it's TMZ. I would imagine the "Source" tried everyone else then went to the bottom of the barrel in CNN, then when the story didn't work out the other day, the source found one notch below in TMZ. It will be Huffington Post next.


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    Irish_rat wrote: »
    Sister looks seriously demented. First woman to dictate NK

    Oh no! She’s not managed by Noel Kelly as well, is she? She’s bound to get the gig if she is!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,514 ✭✭✭valoren


    I wouldnt say no.

    This sucker is about to go Nuclear!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Gooey Looey


    Taken too soon, why do all the good ones go first?
    RIP Kim, rest with the angles.

    RIP in piece


  • Registered Users Posts: 267 ✭✭overkill602


    Looks like he a vegie so brain dead
    Ha Ha the heart surgeon botched the op because hands where shaking with fear probably had a couple of underwear changes as well


    https://www.thesun.ie/news/5361448/kim-jong-un-dead-north-korea-heart-op-china/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭Littlehorny


    I thought North Korea's god like leaders were above such human needs as breathing, drinking and taking a s***.
    Was it just his father who made these wild claims about his abilities and deeds and the son try's to come across as human?
    Anyway, may he die roaring, evil c***


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Next after Adolf the most popular dictator on boards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭secman


    RIP in piece

    I can here the angles sign :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Rockbeast2


    The sister is a fine thing. I would.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 395 ✭✭Class MayDresser


    Can't understand the animosity here, like what did he ever do to anyone in Ireland? Fly like eagle O Great Un!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    Rockbeast2 wrote: »
    The sister is a fine thing. I would.
    I would too but she's probably a psycho. You'd get the Lorena Bobbitt treatment if you annoyed her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    The sister has been in charge the last couple of weeks, and another time she stood in for him as well.

    She's supposed to take over, until the Jong Un's son turns of age, or dies in a freak accident.

    Now, completely judging a book by its cover, she's as sharp as a tack, and wicked as ****. She'll either out nutjob IL and Un, or drag NK kicking and screaming into the 21st century.


  • Registered Users Posts: 748 ✭✭✭Vita nova


    donvito99 wrote: »
    No he was revived and renamed Kim Jung Deux
    Other rumours that he'll be replaced by his sister Kim Jong Une


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,531 ✭✭✭HBC08


    It was CNN the other day and now it's TMZ. I would imagine the "Source" tried everyone else then went to the bottom of the barrel in CNN, then when the story didn't work out the other day, the source found one notch below in TMZ. It will be Huffington Post next.

    TMZ is a thrash/gossip site.However when they actually confirm a rumour or story you can take it as gospel and they're often the first to have it.
    By the way they have said they are NOT confirming that he is dead,just saying it is reported.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,305 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    If he was dead, it would be confirmed on the news


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Lucy8080


    Dead or alive ,the Chinese Government will be managing this whole situation. North Korea is totally dependent on Chinese support.

    I wonder do they see them as a loose cannon at times. Or, if North Korea take advantage of the cover they give to China.

    Both are rotten states.

    Their ordinary /average people are some of the finest in the world.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Chalk McHugh


    The surgeon who's shaky hands seem to have left Rocket man in a vegetative state may not have got a good nights sleep last night.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Ash3070


    So I googled around to see who would be next in line. Officially he has no children as none of them have ever been displayed to the Korean public. However he did mention a child at the summit with Trump. South Korean and American intelligence have also indicated that he has a 10 year old son, a seven year old and a 3 year old daughter. 10 year old is obviously too young to take over now if his father IS dead.

    He had 2 brothers, one of whom he famously murdered. The other one, the eldest Kim Jong-chul, is unlikely to step in. He has staunchly refused to involve himself in politics and prefers to just play guitar. So most likely it would go to the sister, Kim Yojong. He's been grooming her as a successor and in recent years, she's taken a much stronger involvement in politics and leadership. Interestingly(?) there has never been a female dictator to come into power in her own right, they've all seized power after the deaths of their dictator husband. Kim Yojong would of course also be taking power due to the death of a close male dictator, however she would be the first female dictator in history to have not been married to the previous one. Not useful information really but I thought it was interesting :) However like most countries run by dictators, North Korea are an extremely conservative country, unlikely to accept a female leader.

    The ONLY other possible heir would be his nephews, Kim Han-sol, Kim Kum-sol and Kim Geum-sol. All unlikely given that they're currently in hiding as the sons of the brother Kim Jong-un assassinated.

    It's also possible that the North Korean government could install a general unrelated to the Kim family. This would be notable however given that they would be the first person to rule unrelated to Kim Il-sung, the famous general who 'liberated' North Koreans and founded the nation (even though there's a lot of evidence that the person who went on to take power wasn't actually the real Kim Il-sung, that the real Kim Il-sung died in battle). North Koreans viewed KIS and to a slightly lesser extent, Kim Jong-Il as gods. This facade slipped a lot when they died, gods don't die after all. While Kim Jong-un is revered, it's not the way his father and grandfather were. It's not really because of divine right but for a lot of people it's because they don't want to be punished - and they don't want generations of their family to end up in gulags.

    If power is given to someone outside of the Kim family though, the curtain is finally ripped off for good. It could VERY easily lead to civil war. Not something we really want with a country with a nuclear arsenal. Maybe down the line, a civil war could lead to reunification, however short and medium term, it's just going to be trouble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,527 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    Ash3070 wrote: »
    So I googled around to see who would be next in line. Officially he has no children as none of them have ever been displayed to the Korean public. However he did mention a child at the summit with Trump. South Korean and American intelligence have also indicated that he has a 10 year old son, a seven year old and a 3 year old daughter. 10 year old is obviously too young to take over now if his father IS dead.

    He had 2 brothers, one of whom he famously murdered. The other one, the eldest Kim Jong-chul, is unlikely to step in. He has staunchly refused to involve himself in politics and prefers to just play guitar. So most likely it would go to the sister, Kim Yojong. He's been grooming her as a successor and in recent years, she's taken a much stronger involvement in politics and leadership. Interestingly(?) there has never been a female dictator to come into power in her own right, they've all seized power after the deaths of their dictator husband. Kim Yojong would of course also be taking power due to the death of a close male dictator, however she would be the first female dictator in history to have not been married to the previous one. Not useful information really but I thought it was interesting :) However like most countries run by dictators, North Korea are an extremely conservative country, unlikely to accept a female leader.

    The ONLY other possible heir would be his nephews, Kim Han-sol, Kim Kum-sol and Kim Geum-sol. All unlikely given that they're currently in hiding as the sons of the brother Kim Jong-un assassinated.

    It's also possible that the North Korean government could install a general unrelated to the Kim family. This would be notable however given that they would be the first person to rule unrelated to Kim Il-sung, the famous general who 'liberated' North Koreans and founded the nation (even though there's a lot of evidence that the person who went on to take power wasn't actually the real Kim Il-sung, that the real Kim Il-sung died in battle). North Koreans viewed KIS and to a slightly lesser extent, Kim Jong-Il as gods. This facade slipped a lot when they died, gods don't die after all. While Kim Jong-un is revered, it's not the way his father and grandfather were. It's not really because of divine right but for a lot of people it's because they don't want to be punished - and they don't want generations of their family to end up in gulags.

    If power is given to someone outside of the Kim family though, the curtain is finally ripped off for good. It could VERY easily lead to civil war. Not something we really want with a country with a nuclear arsenal. Maybe down the line, a civil war could lead to reunification, however short and medium term, it's just going to be trouble.
    Thats exactly what china doesn't want. The second thing it doesn't want is the south Korea/USA getting a foothold should a power vacuum occur. China doesnt want the USA on its door step.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,539 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    I can't believe he is/ was only 36 from his photo.
    Looks like hes been swilling pints for years


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Ash3070


    irishgeo wrote: »
    Thats exactly what china doesn't want. The second thing it doesn't want is the south Korea/USA getting a foothold should a power vacuum occur. China doesnt want the USA on its door step.

    True, but China know that if they step in militarily then the U.S is obligated to South Korea to step in as well. And with THAAD pointing straight at North Korea (and conveniently also being in range of a large part of China), China probably are going to be very cautious about how they assist North Korea...basically if China do get involved, it'll escalate into an even larger mess of potentially nuclear proportions...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Can't understand the animosity here, like what did he ever do to anyone in Ireland? Fly like eagle O Great Un!

    Because a lot of Irish think they are Americans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I hope he's dead, and that the society now opens up and maybe even joins South Korea.
    It happened for Communist East Germany..

    Most of all I hope all the people in NK prisons are let free soon.

    Communism is such a monstrosity.
    It's true what they say; "capitalism builds walls to keep people out. Communism builds walls to keep people in."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,395 ✭✭✭sjb25


    biko wrote: »
    I hope he's dead, and that the society now opens up and maybe even joins South Korea.
    It happened for Communist East Germany..

    Most of all I hope all the people in NK prisons are let free soon.

    Communism is such a monstrosity.
    It's true what they say; "capitalism builds walls to keep people out. Communism builds walls to keep people in."

    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,982 ✭✭✭Degag


    If he is dead the 5 million mass gathering at his funeral could wipe the whole country out with Covid. Every cloud.......

    Very strange post. Wipe out a whole country of innocent oppressed people just because they have a madman in charge?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    is there anyway to find out?? even through the dark web?


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Ash3070


    What is considered beautiful in other countries doesn't always line up with what we perceive as beautiful. In most Asian countries, paler skin is seen as more desirable. Goes back to the idea that if you're tanned, you've probably spent much of your life on a farm and exposed to the sun. She's not the most stunning woman, however she's not unattractive based on their beauty standards. And as far as what other people have said about her 'looking evil', I can't help but disagree. If we had no idea who she was, she'd probably be just another woman in a crowd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭monty_python


    Ash3070 wrote: »
    So I googled around to see who would be next in line. Officially he has no children as none of them have ever been displayed to the Korean public. However he did mention a child at the summit with Trump. South Korean and American intelligence have also indicated that he has a 10 year old son, a seven year old and a 3 year old daughter. 10 year old is obviously too young to take over now if his father IS dead.

    He had 2 brothers, one of whom he famously murdered. The other one, the eldest Kim Jong-chul, is unlikely to step in. He has staunchly refused to involve himself in politics and prefers to just play guitar. So most likely it would go to the sister, Kim Yojong. He's been grooming her as a successor and in recent years, she's taken a much stronger involvement in politics and leadership. Interestingly(?) there has never been a female dictator to come into power in her own right, they've all seized power after the deaths of their dictator husband. Kim Yojong would of course also be taking power due to the death of a close male dictator, however she would be the first female dictator in history to have not been married to the previous one. Not useful information really but I thought it was interesting :) However like most countries run by dictators, North Korea are an extremely conservative country, unlikely to accept a female leader.

    The ONLY other possible heir would be his nephews, Kim Han-sol, Kim Kum-sol and Kim Geum-sol. All unlikely given that they're currently in hiding as the sons of the brother Kim Jong-un assassinated.

    It's also possible that the North Korean government could install a general unrelated to the Kim family. This would be notable however given that they would be the first person to rule unrelated to Kim Il-sung, the famous general who 'liberated' North Koreans and founded the nation (even though there's a lot of evidence that the person who went on to take power wasn't actually the real Kim Il-sung, that the real Kim Il-sung died in battle). North Koreans viewed KIS and to a slightly lesser extent, Kim Jong-Il as gods. This facade slipped a lot when they died, gods don't die after all. While Kim Jong-un is revered, it's not the way his father and grandfather were. It's not really because of divine right but for a lot of people it's because they don't want to be punished - and they don't want generations of their family to end up in gulags.

    If power is given to someone outside of the Kim family though, the curtain is finally ripped off for good. It could VERY easily lead to civil war. Not something we really want with a country with a nuclear arsenal. Maybe down the line, a civil war could lead to reunification, however short and medium term, it's just going to be trouble.
    He has an uncle who was a diplomat in Europe. Recently returned to NK.
    He might be the one to sieze power


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,539 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Ash3070 wrote: »
    What is considered beautiful in other countries doesn't always line up with what we perceive as beautiful. In most Asian countries, paler skin is seen as more desirable. Goes back to the idea that if you're tanned, you've probably spent much of your life on a farm and exposed to the sun. She's not the most stunning woman, however she's not unattractive based on their beauty standards. And as far as what other people have said about her 'looking evil', I can't help but disagree. If we had no idea who she was, she'd probably be just another woman in a crowd.

    She's a good looking woman by my standards.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Ash3070


    He has an uncle who was a diplomat in Europe. Recently returned to NK.
    He might be the one to sieze power

    Really? Would you mind telling me his name, I'm not familiar. The only uncles I know of are the one by marriage whom he had executed and the brother whom his father drowned as a child.
    *edit AH! He has the same name as the brother who drowned, that's where my confusion came in!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    She's a good looking woman by my standards

    needs a few sessions on the sunbed imo and a visit to the hairdresser


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Chalk McHugh


    Degag wrote: »
    Very strange post. Wipe out a whole country of innocent oppressed people just because they have a madman in charge?

    You're right. It was a poorly worded post. I meant wiping out of the Evil Regime of fruitcakes that have destroyed the country for decades. Not the oppressed people.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,733 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    biko wrote: »
    Both Daily Mail and Daily Express agrees with you OP.
    Your copy of Pravada/Salon doesn't yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭monty_python


    Ash3070 wrote: »
    Really? Would you mind telling me his name, I'm not familiar. The only uncles I know of are the one by marriage whom he had executed and the brother whom his father drowned as a child.
    *edit AH! He has the same name as the brother who drowned, that's where my confusion came in!

    Apologies, i wasnt 100% right. It's his father's half brother

    "Other Kim family members who might take over include Kim Pyong Il, the 65-year-old half-brother of Kim Jong Il who reportedly returned home in November after decades in Europe as a diplomat"

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/04/north-korea-media-silent-kim-jong-whereabouts-200422030039497.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,539 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    fryup wrote: »
    needs a few sessions on the sunbed imo and a visit to the hairdresser

    Even then she might look different in the flesh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭manonboard


    The surgeon who's shaky hands seem to have left Rocket man in a vegetative state may not have got a good nights sleep last night.

    I thought about him/her a few times while reading the thread. I keep getting unpleasant images in my head. I hope, they just killed him and that was that. Surgery goes wrong, it happens. But in such an unpleasant state. I fear terrible things would happen to him. Poor innocent person.


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