Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

speckle wrote: »

I read he might be ill.

No,that was his father

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What's going to happen to North Korea if Kim is dead?

His body double takes over.

splinter65 wrote: »

Until today
It’s all over today. All the kids are out playing and neighbours are having callers. It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out.

This ..

I really noticed it today...estate full of kids out playing, parents no where to be seen and thise thst were out not observing any distancing. Huge increase in cars coming and going. Few doors down had a large party Friday night

So when youre all moaning that nothing ia changing after the 5th for another few weeks be sure to thank all the gobsh**tes acting similarly

bb12 wrote: »

https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/forefront/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/uchicago-medicine-doctors-see-truly-remarkable-success-using-ventilator-alternatives-to-treat-covid19?fbclid=IwAR3mjr9FijB-aqUIV58NuyXHjk4wKDsd5nihWNWGD1F16LW8l57jxde7qAE


UChicago Medicine doctors see 'truly remarkable' success using ventilator alternatives to treat COVID-19

Doctors at the University of Chicago Medicine are seeing “truly remarkable” results using high-flow nasal cannulas rather than ventilators and intubation to treat some COVID-19 patients.

Doctors are starting to see greater success with low pressure ventilation . Looks like the issue is blood oxegenation levels rather than typical pneumonia.

ek motor wrote: »

"The analyses suggest coronavirus patients are mostly experiencing the deadliest type of stroke. Known as large vessel occlusions or LVOs, they can obliterate large parts of the brain responsible for movement, speech and decision-making in one blow because they are in the main blood-supplying arteries."



https://www.boston.com/news/coronavirus/2020/04/24/covid-19-strokes

I am saying it almost from the very beginning that death is often caused by blood clotting

Its very busy out and about today and the Guards are obviously not doing anything to stop it...……...

https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1253995619921821698?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1253995619921821698&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2Fg80ql2%3Fresponsive%3Dtrue%26is_nightmode%3Dfalse

Why are WHO saying this? Its almost verging on scare mongering

How is it so hard to prove somebody can or cannot become infected again? LIke surely in NEw York and places with millions of cases thered be an example or two where somebody became infected again, and given that hasnt appeared to occur would we not take it that there is immunity? Would there not be some people whod be happy to volunteer to become reinfected in order to prove immunity can occur?

And does the plasma injection from recovered patients which helps the recovery of currently infected patients not also prove that there is immunity?

lillycakes2 wrote: »

Its very busy out and about today and the Guards are obviously not doing anything to stop it...……...

My weekly trip to Aldi the other day i noticed no more Q to get in. Everyone just sauntering in. Before there was someone at the door restricting the amount of people entering.

Dont be surprised to see a resurgence of infections

wakka12 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1253995619921821698?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1253995619921821698&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2Fg80ql2%3Fresponsive%3Dtrue%26is_nightmode%3Dfalse

Why are WHO saying this? Its almost verging on scare mongering

How is it so hard to prove somebody can or cannot become infected again? LIke surely in NEw York and places with millions of cases thered be an example or two where somebody became infected again, and given that hasnt appeared to occur would we not take it that there is immunity? Would there not be some people whod be happy to volunteer to become reinfected in order to prove immunity can occur?

And does the plasma injection from recovered patients which helps the recovery of currently infected patients not also prove that there is immunity?

Gave up taking advice from the WHO a long time ago
Basically saying you can keep catching it and any vaccine research is pointless

wakka12 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1253995619921821698?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1253995619921821698&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2Fg80ql2%3Fresponsive%3Dtrue%26is_nightmode%3Dfalse

Why are WHO saying this? Its almost verging on scare mongering

How is it so hard to prove somebody can or cannot become infected again? LIke surely in NEw York and places with millions of cases thered be an example or two where somebody became infected again, and given that hasnt appeared to occur would we not take it that there is immunity? Would there not be some people whod be happy to volunteer to become reinfected in order to prove immunity can occur?

And does the plasma injection from recovered patients which helps the recovery of currently infected patients not also prove that there is immunity?

Some coronavirus antibodies give immunity for short periods only, so these people could be reinfected in a few months or a year or more. So the WHO statement is correct as there is no evidence of permanent immunity.

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Some coronavirus antibodies give immunity for short periods only, so these people could be reinfected in a few months or a year or more. So the WHO statement is correct as there is no evidence of permanent immunity.

But they should clarify that they meant that then. They didnt say permanent immunity specifically, from their post I take it theyre sceptpical for some reason that there will be any immunity at all. Even if people are immune for a few months or a year it will help a lot to slow the spread of the pandemic

ek motor wrote: »

Not 'scare-mongering', they are telling it as it is. We know very little about this virus and what we do know is very bad news.

I think it is scare mongering seeing as there are more signs than not that there is at least some form of immunity provided after infection, such as the plasma injections helping infected people recover.

If there is thought to be no immunity, why would that plasma have any effect? Seeing as it is apparently/may be just plasma that has no memory of how to fight off the virus

bb12 wrote: »

https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/forefront/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/uchicago-medicine-doctors-see-truly-remarkable-success-using-ventilator-alternatives-to-treat-covid19?fbclid=IwAR3mjr9FijB-aqUIV58NuyXHjk4wKDsd5nihWNWGD1F16LW8l57jxde7qAE


UChicago Medicine doctors see 'truly remarkable' success using ventilator alternatives to treat COVID-19

Doctors at the University of Chicago Medicine are seeing “truly remarkable” results using high-flow nasal cannulas rather than ventilators and intubation to treat some COVID-19 patients.

Reuters Special Report: As virus advances, doctors rethink rush to ventilate

The same has been found in Europe and elsewhere... 'Happy hypoxics' don't need ventilation.

It seems that “cytokine storm” or a sudden deterioration are now the main indication for mechanical ventilation in ICU.

This knowledge and new approach has resulted in far better ICU outcomes.. which is great news for all.