Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

Wibbs · 25-04-2020 06:58PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Has any official explanation been put forward as to why this was/is the case? I mean when the deaths really started to skyrocket in those regions there were all sorts of stories about how it was due to generations of Italian families living in the same building/their touchy/feely culture etc. Surely there must be more to it than that as this should apply throughout the country even taking into account the differences in population density.

Slightly different genetics maybe? Ages ago I was reading a paper on the presence of archaic hominid genes in modern European populations and when I saw the difference in Covid19 in Italy I remembered something from the paper that there was more archaic genetic material the further south you went in Italy(though it faded out in Sicily and was highest in Sardinia). Now it's not likely to be those genetics, but could it be other genes that vary between north and south that leave them more vulnerable?

25-04-2020 07:01PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

" I am a sixth-year student who, after recent announcements, is left lost.

On Friday, April 10, the decision was made to push the Leaving Cert examinations back to late July. This will be remembered by me, and by thousands of other students, as the day their summer was stolen."

This is the consequence of the molly coddling of youngsters these days. Eventually the world will bite them on the arse and they'll learn.

Must have a load of kids posting on here then regarding the restrictions being over blown, going further than 2km during exercise etc.

shinzon · 25-04-2020 07:04PM

billybonkers wrote: »

What restrictions are likely to be lifted on may 5th?

Extend the 2km, some people return to work, building sites?

The CMO basically said last night unless people cop on for the next 10 days than as of now he couldn't recommend any lifting of restrictions on May 5th so its upto everybody otherwise nothing will be lifted.

Shin

cameramonkey · 25-04-2020 07:05PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

" I am a sixth-year student who, after recent announcements, is left lost.

On Friday, April 10, the decision was made to push the Leaving Cert examinations back to late July. This will be remembered by me, and by thousands of other students, as the day their summer was stolen."

This is the consequence of the molly coddling of youngsters these days. Eventually the world will bite them on the arse and they'll learn.

It is just the Indo getting cheap copy. They get a load of student moaners to write articles and send them in a few photos and don't pay them. The students are so busy being self absorbed that they don't realise they are working for free.

CruelSummer · 25-04-2020 07:05PM

ek motor wrote: »

Short term immunity is not really in question, it seems pretty much guaranteed, the question is longer term immunity, addressed here in the article :

The other consideration when discussing immunity is the length of time that someone might remain immune for. Winter flu vaccines have to be re-administered each year, in part because over time your flu antibody count drops. Most of us are repeatedly exposed to the viruses that cause the common cold, so our antibody counts are topped up each year. “With time they might not be replaced,” says Pollock. “Being re-exposed is like getting a wake-up call to make more of them.”

If for any reason we are not exposed to them for a period of time, or our immune system is weakened, we feel those familiar cold symptoms.

There is no reason to think that Covid-19 will not act in the same way – being fought off when our antibody counts are high in the medium term and causing us symptoms when they drop in the long term or when our immune systems are vulnerable. Although, again, Iwasaki and Pollock stress that we do not know definitively, and some have suggested that it could take years for this kind of immunity to become prevalent. A paper published in Science last week suggested that social distancing might still be required until 2022.

You can look on this positively or negatively.
The piece you’re quoting is just stating ‘there’s no reason why Covid 19 won’t behave the same as flu’ - equally we can state there’s no reason why we wouldn’t be immune for a longer time.
I do think there’s a certain amount of scaremongering going on now and it’s not right. Sam McConkey on Six One said we cannot relax restrictions due to the outbreaks in nursing homes. I’m don’t agree with full lockdown if just nursing homes are now being affected. There are other steps they could and should have taken re nursing homes.
People exposed to the original SARS virus who survived had immunity for 3-5 years. Some people’s antibodies took months to show up in their immune systems to it. Covid is similar in genetic make up to the original SARS.

JP Liz V1 · 25-04-2020 07:07PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I know many won't care and will pass by.

I don't know how to say it, but I am glad my mother went to her reward before this CV all happened. She was an amazing woman and would have rebelled so much at the restrictions.

Sorry for the indulgence, what a mammy, may she rest in peace like so many others.

I'm sorry for your loss, your mother sounds like a lovely lady

robbiezero · 25-04-2020 07:08PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Those three sound about right. I read something saying over 70s may be allowed visit parks during designated periods.

Good few over 70s out and about in my local park today and yesterday which I had not seen previously.

ACitizenErased · 25-04-2020 07:09PM

Apologies if this has been posted before but community tranmission has now been overtaken by close contacts in terms of method of tranmission.

Kermit.de.frog · 25-04-2020 07:10PM

DubInMeath wrote: »

Must have a load of kids posting on here then regarding the restrictions being over blown, going further than 2km during exercise etc.

In fairness it's not just this generation of young people, probably goes back a couple of generations.

It's not every young person obviously but the reality is we are bringing up generations that are just not equipped particularly psychologically to deal with real crisis.

Whether that's due to technology, wealth or social issues, parenting I have no idea. Maybe it's just due to the fact that none of us have faced an actual global crisis probably since the start of the cold war.

tigger123 · 25-04-2020 07:10PM

Definitely a reduction in the amount of people I've seen out and about today (compared to previous days and weeks).

25-04-2020 07:11PM

Jin luk wrote: »

Their has never been a vaccine for a coronavirus before and in my opinion their wont be 1 for this either we will learn to live with it. People putting all their hope on a vaccine is ridiculous it isnt going to happen. And thats not being morbid its just being real. Social distancing is the norm now, deal with it.

What medical research facility do you work at?

ACitizenErased · 25-04-2020 07:11PM

tigger123 wrote: »

Definitely a reduction in the amount of people I've seen out and about today (compared to previous days and weeks).

I got stopped by the Gardai today for the first time in a week.

Speak Now · 25-04-2020 07:11PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Or during the 1990 and 1994 World Cups.

I got lucky

Euro 88
Junior (Inter) cert 89
Italia 90
Leaving 91

Strazdas · 25-04-2020 07:12PM

robbiezero wrote: »

Good few over 70s out and about in my local park today and yesterday which I had not seen previously.

They're not really supposed to be there. The new regulation would clarify things though.

Kermit.de.frog · 25-04-2020 07:12PM

tigger123 wrote: »

Definitely a reduction in the amount of people I've seen out and about today (compared to previous days and weeks).

I noticed that today too.

ZX7R · 25-04-2020 07:15PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I noticed that today too.

Same in my area much less people out and about in my area

Cork Boy 53 · 25-04-2020 07:16PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Slightly different genetics maybe? Ages ago I was reading a paper on the presence of archaic hominid genes in modern European populations and when I saw the difference in Covid19 in Italy I remembered something from the paper that there was more archaic genetic material the further south you went in Italy(though it faded out in Sicily and was highest in Sardinia). Now it's not likely to be those genetics, but could it be other genes that vary between north and south that leave them more vulnerable?

I really don`t know. You may well be correct in what you stated in the above post. Like so much else about this ****ing virus there are a lot of things still to be figured out by the medical science community.

25-04-2020 07:17PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

In fairness it's not just this generation of young people, probably goes back a couple of generations.

It's not every young person obviously but the reality is we are bringing up generations that are just not equipped particularly psychologically to deal with real crisis.

Whether that's due to technology, wealth or social issues, parenting I have no idea. Maybe it's just due to the fact that none of us have faced an actual global crisis probably since the start of the cold war.

It's nothing to do with generation gap etc in my opinion just the fact some people are just born dicks and they exist in every generation.

wakka12 · 25-04-2020 07:19PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Has any official explanation been put forward as to why this was/is the case? I mean when the deaths really started to skyrocket in those regions there were all sorts of stories about how it was due to different generations of Italian families living together in the same building/their touchy/feely culture etc. Surely there must be more to it than that as this should apply throughout the country even taking into account the differences in population density.

Sometimes its just chance. Why did an outbreak explode in Detroit New York and Boston but not nearby Ottawa or Toronto in Canada, cities of comparable scale and density? And even in Canada why does Montreal have twice as many deaths Toronto despite being half the size?

Level 42 · 25-04-2020 07:21PM

streets of cork city are empty quiet and theres hardly any traffic or anyone around besides people going for a walk-spin from the government for enforcing extra weeks lockdown in media

ZX7R · 25-04-2020 07:21PM

shinzon wrote: »

The CMO basically said last night unless people cop on for the next 10 days than as of now he couldn't recommend any lifting of restrictions on May 5th so its upto everybody otherwise nothing will be lifted.

Shin

To be fair there has been very mixed messages and press releases coming out today.
Latest I read from our minister for health
No big bang of relaxing of recommendations come the 5th,
But he didn't say there would not be.
So I say for now construction and associated firm's will be back.

spookwoman · 25-04-2020 07:23PM

tigger123 wrote: »

Definitely a reduction in the amount of people I've seen out and about today (compared to previous days and weeks).

Would say the opposite here. Just outside the house seeing a less social distancing where if a someone was walking down the street and met another group from another house that 6ft space is no longer there. The plague house in and out all day and their butty is calling up multiple times day with the kids.
Animal farm has extra kids in playing and someone just went down the street with a goal post net to play on the green.

JP Liz V1 · 25-04-2020 07:24PM

ZX7R wrote: »

Fever
Cough
Shortness of breath.

From Monday.

Cough
Congestion
Runny nose
Sore throut
Body aches
Tiredness.
Priority testing will be given to most at risk

I've a runny nose, sniffles and sore eyes which I am putting down to hayfever, as pollen count high, I'm asthmatic but have no real cough, the symptoms of this seem to change

SCOOP 64 · 25-04-2020 07:27PM

ZX7R wrote: »

To be fair there has been very mixed messages and press releases coming out today.
Latest I read from our minister for health
No big bang of relaxing of recommendations come the 5th,
But he didn't say there would not be.
So I say for now construction and associated firm's will be back.

Yeah and every firm would suddenly be associated with construction in some way

Jim_Hodge · 25-04-2020 07:28PM

spookwoman wrote: »

Would say the opposite here. Just outside the house seeing a less social distancing where if a someone was walking down the street and met another group from another house that 6ft space is no longer there. The plague house in and out all day and their butty is calling up multiple times day with the kids.
Animal farm has extra kids in playing and someone just went down the street with a goal post net to play on the green.

It's as quiet here today as it has been in the past fortnight.

lalababa · 25-04-2020 07:28PM

Have I read a Twitter post right??
Median age of today's deaths as 49?? That's a big drop from the usual
75+ numberðŸ˜±.

ZX7R · 25-04-2020 07:30PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I've a runny nose, sniffles and sore eyes which I am putting down to hayfever, as pollen count high, I'm asthmatic but have no real cough, the symptoms of this seem to change

Unless you're directly in contact with a know case or suspected case of covid.
It's probably just hay fever.
Plus pollan counts are very high

Jim_Hodge · 25-04-2020 07:32PM

lalababa wrote: »

Have I read a Twitter post right??
Median age of today's deaths as 49?? That's a big drop from the usual
75+ number&#55357;&#56881;.

Cases was 49 not deaths

The Great Gatsby · 25-04-2020 07:35PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

The US just flew past 53,000 deaths, 1001 so far today. Will probably pass 54k before the end of the day.

Trump's great 60k projection will be lucky to last out Monday.

That's true, and I think that at this point most people, even some politicians in his own party, are taking his idiotic comments with a grain of salt . . . However, despite Trump being a bumbling idiot, statistically the numbers based on population are better than a lot of European countries . . . the UK numbers have topped 20k with a population that's about 5 times smaller.

the.red.baron · 25-04-2020 07:37PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

In fairness it's not just this generation of young people, probably goes back a couple of generations.

It's not every young person obviously but the reality is we are bringing up generations that are just not equipped particularly psychologically to deal with real crisis.

Whether that's due to technology, wealth or social issues, parenting I have no idea. Maybe it's just due to the fact that none of us have faced an actual global crisis probably since the start of the cold war.

Which generation was the toughest ya reckon?

Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

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