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Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,759 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Has anyone a link to the latest deaths by day of occurrence graph?
    The last one showed the peak as 7th April by day of occurrence. I wonder if it is still the highest.
    That's usually saved for the conferences. Highest on one day (based on last graph) is 42 AFAIR.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,155 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Has anyone a link to the latest deaths by day of occurrence graph?
    The last one showed the peak as 7th April by day of occurrence. I wonder if it is still the highest.

    Up to the 18th April - haven't seen any update since then

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    42 confirmed deaths and 10 suspected.
    377 new cases.

    3 deaths also denotified

    Good news that the cases have dropped, it gives me some hope that some restrictions will be lifted on the 5th


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Has anyone a link to the latest deaths by day of occurrence graph?
    The last one showed the peak as 7th April by day of occurrence. I wonder if it is still the highest.
    Here's a link to Mirror. I think he had a graph yesterday too if you can find the briefing.

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/coronavirus-deaths-ireland-latest-figures-21899725


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,759 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    I'm not too up to date with health standards or whatever but can anyone explain why masks aren't being recommended in public? Surely if everyone's wearing a mask community spread can be limited without restrictions?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    How many tests are being done, to the general public


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    I'm not too up to date with health standards or whatever but can anyone explain why masks aren't being recommended in public? Surely if everyone's wearing a mask community spread can be limited without restrictions?
    Their position is that it is key in most medical settings but that the evidence for everyone else is "weak".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,759 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Their position is that it is key in most medical settings but that the evidence for everyone else is "weak".
    I thought it was working out in other countries. Seen somewhere that Czechia's cases are down big time since they started using them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    I thought it was working out in other countries. Seen somewhere that Czechia's cases are down big time since they started using them.
    The question pops up regularly in briefings and this is the line they take every time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Gretas Gonna Get Ya!


    Numbers starting to come down now. I don't expect deaths to decrease in growth tbh with the level of nursing home infections. We need people to really put in an effort for the next week.

    Nursing homes are not the sole reason though.

    There is plenty of evidence of community spread in the most recent numbers.

    And we had almost 1,000 cases confirmed 2 days ago. Unfortunately deaths are not coming down, they're going up... I don't think there is any hope in hell of us relaxing restrictions by may 5th.

    We need to get serious about this thing. This is going to be a very long drawn out battle over many months! Not enough people are being realistic about what we're facing here.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,057 ✭✭✭✭briany


    road_high wrote: »
    Three more weeks? Lol, are you deliberately being naive? Try three more years if this nonsense keeps up.

    I think it's you who is being deliberately naive. More lockdown in the short term is possible, but extending it out to years would push society beyond an economic and social tipping point that would make it impossible to enforce even if the government tried to impose it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Chances are strong that we will not get immunity and can catch this disease twice
    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200421-will-we-ever-be-immune-to-covid-19

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/lockdown-letters/students-voices-are-being-disregarded-our-summer-has-been-stolen-from-us-39148726.html

    “Our summer has been stolen from us.”

    Did you ever hear such complete nonsense in all your life?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Chances are strong that we will not get immunity and can catch this disease twice
    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200421-will-we-ever-be-immune-to-covid-19
    First claim may be true, second one is very questionable.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 442 ✭✭freak scence


    HSE are talking alot of ****e , they need to start testing or this lockdown is a waste of everyones time. They still have not tested all staff in a family members nursing home , here is part of mail from nusring home. No wonder there are so many dying in them.



    Unfortunately, there have been some ongoing delays between government announcements of assistance to the nursing home sector and actual implementation of proposed interventions. The Emergency Management Team took part in a conference call this morning with <Names snipped>. We highlighted the following concerns:

    * Delay in staff testing: the only staff tested to date have been those self-referring to their GP after exhibiting symptoms and those who were on duty last weekend when all Residents were tested. We are still awaiting confirmation from the HSE as to when the remainder of our staff will be tested. I wish to reassure you at this stage that all <Snip> staff wear surgical masks at all times whilst working in the nursing home. We implemented this measure several weeks ago to minimise the risk of any staff member infecting others. In the case of Residents with suspected / confirmed covid, additional PPE is worn including regulator masks.
    * Staffing assistance: we have not yet been contacted by the HSE regarding any staffing support. Thankfully we have been managing to staff the floor with a full complement of staff from the outset by existing staff working extra shifts and the management team working as carers when required. However staffing the floors is becoming increasingly difficult when staff members have to go into self-isolation. If/when full staff testing is rolled out, this may also further exacerbate the situation, depending on the outcome of test results.
    We also continue to experience some difficulties in sourcing appropriate PPE. Whilst we have sourced our own supplies of PPE from the outset of this crisis and continue to do so, supply of certain products has been problematic: bulk purchasing of PPE by the HSE has limited the availability of stock which can be purchased by the private sector and there are numerous scams in circulation offering PPE which is either not fit for purpose or is non-existent. To date, supplies of PPE by the HSE have been in lower quantities than that requested by <Snip>. We have received extremely generous PPE donations from companies, individuals, family and friends, without which I believe that we would have run out of certain supplies by now.
    At all times our infection control measures have, at a minimum, followed HPSC / HSE /HIQA recommended guidelines and we have introduced a number of measures in advance of them being recommended in national guidelines. We have daily Emergency Management Team meetings where Resident and staff health status’ are discussed along with infection control measures in place, any new guidance documents implemented, PPE supplies, staff training needs etc. All staff are continuing with strict hygiene and infection control protocols and we are closely monitoring staff temperatures twice per shift as per HSE guidelines.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    spookwoman wrote: »
    How many tests are being done, to the general public

    People who who are referred with the required criteria are been tested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,595 ✭✭✭Azatadine




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭Be right back


    https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/lockdown-letters/students-voices-are-being-disregarded-our-summer-has-been-stolen-from-us-39148726.html

    “Our summer has been stolen from us.”

    Did you ever hear such complete nonsense in all your life?

    Oh dear, priorities. How about that they have extra time to study?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 442 ✭✭freak scence


    ZX7R wrote: »
    People who who are referred with the required criteria are been tested.

    whats the required criteria ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    Are there any stats available for the number of incorrect results from the tests that we are using. There are always false positives and false negatives with any diagnostic test. In normal circumstances tests for various diseases are often done twice or three times on the same person to confirm the original result. It would be normal practice that any positive result would have a confirmatory test done.
    Is any of this happening for Covid tests?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,336 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Chances are strong that we will not get immunity and can catch this disease twice
    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200421-will-we-ever-be-immune-to-covid-19

    No it’s not. Did you read the article? It stated some people’s innate immune system dealt with the virus effectively which meant their immune system didn’t need to develop antibodies. These people had mild doses. This article also states some type of monkey was exposed to the virus twice and had immunity. The scaremongering going on is ridiculous on this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,336 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Nursing homes are not the sole reason though.

    There is plenty of evidence of community spread in the most recent numbers.

    And we had almost 1,000 cases confirmed 2 days ago. Unfortunately deaths are not coming down, they're going up... I don't think there is any hope in hell of us relaxing restrictions by may 5th.

    We need to get serious about this thing. This is going to be a very long drawn out battle over many months! Not enough people are being realistic about what we're facing here.

    We are ‘serious’ about this. We’ve been serious from the word go. Our numbers and figures do not justify the continuation of this lockdown.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Up to the 18th April - haven't seen any update since then

    I don't understand that graph. Firstly you said up to 18th April but it goes up until yesterday. Also why does it spike to 219 deaths yesterday. That's hardly the day of occurrence for those deaths (i.e. 219 people did not die of Covid 2019 yesterday). There is always a considerable lag between the day a person died and the reporting of that date.

    The last death-by-day-of-actual-occurrence graph showed a definitive peak on 7th April.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Oh dear, priorities. How about that they have extra time to study?

    "It is unfair that our futures should bear the consequences of the present affliction" :pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    is_that_so wrote: »
    First claim may be true, second one is very questionable.

    Im very confused by this statement , can you elaborate ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    whats the required criteria ?

    Fever
    Cough
    Shortness of breath.

    From Monday.

    Cough
    Congestion
    Runny nose
    Sore throut
    Body aches
    Tiredness.
    Priority testing will be given to most at risk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    ek motor wrote: »
    Im very confused by this statement , can you elaborate ?
    We might or might not get immunity but the claim about reinfection is disputed and could be for lots of other reasons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,036 ✭✭✭jackboy


    https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/lockdown-letters/students-voices-are-being-disregarded-our-summer-has-been-stolen-from-us-39148726.html

    “Our summer has been stolen from us.”

    Did you ever hear such complete nonsense in all your life?

    Yep, I’d say they got that nonsense from Greta ‘you have stolen my childhood’ Thunberg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    ZX7R wrote: »
    People who who are referred with the required criteria are been tested.

    I ask because aren't they prioritizing nursing homes at the moment and those presenting to hospitals, so if that is the case won't joe bloggs who was forwarded for a test by their doc will be at the bottom of the list again.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    ZX7R wrote: »
    Fever
    Cough
    Shortness of breath.

    From Monday.

    Cough
    Congestion
    Runny nose
    Sore throut
    Body aches
    Tiredness.
    Priority testing will be given to most at risk

    Of the second list of all of those on March ended up on antibiotics and steroids and it took about 4-5 weeks to clear up

    No temperature though


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