Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

timmy_mallet wrote: »

Not everyone is as good as you

You are so edgy. You're wasted here.

brickster69 wrote: »

Ireland at #8 in the world now with deaths / million when you take the micro states out.

8 per million behind Sweden.

RIP

Except it isn't.

MipMap wrote: »

What bothers me Miike is that the Anti-Maskers(not you) including the WHO are trying to deal with the logistics issues of supply and availability issues you refer to by questioning the efficacy of mask wearing as distinct from being honest about it.
Also they are health experts. Issues of supply and demand are none of their concern. This is the business of Government.
It is dangerous when health professionals take it upon themselves to try to manipulate populations by telling them lies for what they think is the common good.
As I have said here twice before - The HSE's last supply of masks was transported to them by Army Truck. Any demand from the public for masks cannot affect that supply.
If a vaccine is discovered but supplies cannot be acquired would it be appropriate for the CMO or the WHO to tell us it does not work?


With regard to the low level of risk of catching the virus this applies just as much to all the other measures as well. Distancing, Hand Washing etc. The point is that you don't just take the risk once. This virus is spreading even despite the lockdown and it is doing it because people are coming into contact with it despite hand washing, distancing etc., Every one of us will have to take those little risks 1,000s of times every month and we need to get lucky every time.
The virus just needs to get lucky once.

I hear what you're saying and totally understand your frustrations but to bit a different bit of a spin on it I have an anecdote;

I have friends work in the US at the moment in hospitals who are having to reuse masks or make their own because of supply and demand issues. The reuse of masks is immensely dangerous and making your own masks to go to work is sick and about as effective as breathing through the gaps in your fingers. If the whole world decided to go out tomorrow and buy just one mask, the global supply will drop so low that healthcare workers in even the most critical areas won't have access to them. There is no doubt about that.

Regarding the WHO et al, that's a whole different debate. I understand your frustrations and even share a lot of them but they need to look at the whole spectrum of problems (and more) you've described when formulating recommendations.

In a perfect world, I'd love to see everyone using the correct hand-washing technique, using masks with the correct technique and keeping with stay home and social distancing guidelines. It would slow the spread of this infection to a halt.

If this virus is with us for as long as forecast (I think it will be here for some time). I expect to see masks being the new norm, but that requires serious ramping up of capacity, which isn't achievable in days or weeks or maybe even months. Life as we knew it is quite a while away, people don't seem to get that. We're already reaching a level of population burn out where people are taking the "ah fúck it" attitude and gallivanting around in groups or meeting up with friends in town etc. The traffic driving back from work today was just as bad as it was 9 months ago. 2 weeks ago it was a ghost town

Bobtheman wrote: »

So what happens May 5?

Judgement Day :cool:

Ah Trump just walked out, no questions