Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee poll not working - pl ignore

elperello · 23-04-2020 05:41PM

Gen.Zhukov wrote: »

I'm just going to quote this section of sjk's post for you as you obviously missed it.

Duffy was getting very close to village idiot territory here. Not only were these extremely stupid things to say, they were dangerous and misleading observations.
Yet, your Dee sees fit to pay him north of 400k pa for approx 10 hours p/w- approx 40 weeks pa - in case the BBC snaps him up!

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I didn't miss Sligo Joe's post at all.

I just posted a link to a news item with the factual comment that it was on page 2 of "other news".

She is not my Dee

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elperello · 23-04-2020 05:45PM

glenfieldman wrote: »

Noel Kelly is the prick that keeps these dopes in a job
He is most of the problem
https://www.nkmanagement.ie/talent.html#

Showbiz without agents would be a novel approach.

Spanish Eyes · 23-04-2020 06:15PM

I wouldn't miss it at all if RTE became defunct.

What do they do that is public broadcasting anyway? The news and current affairs. OK two hours per day rinse and repeat, have someone on standby for breaking news.

Honestly other than the vital information, the rest of it is garbage.

Shefwedfan · 23-04-2020 06:23PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I wouldn't miss it at all if RTE became defunct.

What do they do that is public broadcasting anyway? The news and current affairs. OK two hours per day rinse and repeat, have someone on standby for breaking news.

Honestly other than the vital information, the rest of it is garbage.

I am no RTE fan but they do a lot more than that.....

Spanish Eyes · 23-04-2020 06:56PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I am no RTE fan but they do a lot more than that.....

Like what?

Shows bought in by media firms, house and architecture, travel, keep fit, fat shaming, diets, so called celebrity ****e, what exactly?

Nothing like the Beeb anyway, bad and all as that can be too.

Quin_Dub · 23-04-2020 07:16PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I wouldn't miss it at all if RTE became defunct.

What do they do that is public broadcasting anyway? The news and current affairs. OK two hours per day rinse and repeat, have someone on standby for breaking news.

Honestly other than the vital information, the rest of it is garbage.

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I am no RTE fan but they do a lot more than that.....

That is true , but they spend huge money of stuff they shouldn't be spending it on.

As a state funded channel , they should not be spending money buying in overseas sitcoms and dramas to show as re-runs - Total waste of money.

For anyone that doesn't currently have access to "other channels" the government could install a satellite dish and give them all a tuner box as a once off for free and still save money.

Limit RTE to news , FTA sport (not paying for Premiership or Champions league etc.) , current affairs and local interest programming .

The latest episode of Eastenders or NCIS: Somewhere or other should not be what they are wasting their money on.

Shefwedfan · 23-04-2020 07:24PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Like what?

Shows bought in by media firms, house and architecture, travel, keep fit, fat shaming, diets, so called celebrity ****e, what exactly?

Nothing like the Beeb anyway, bad and all as that can be too.

They have farming shows, etc....not going into a full breakdown of every tv station.....

The grass is not always greener on the other side.....

Spanish Eyes · 23-04-2020 07:42PM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

That is true , but they spend huge money of stuff they shouldn't be spending it on.

As a state funded channel , they should not be spending money buying in overseas sitcoms and dramas to show as re-runs - Total waste of money.

For anyone that doesn't currently have access to "other channels" the government could install a satellite dish and give them all a tuner box as a once off for free and still save money.

Limit RTE to news , FTA sport (not paying for Premiership or Champions league etc.) , current affairs and local interest programming .

The latest episode of Eastenders or NCIS: Somewhere or other should not be what they are wasting their money on.

Agree.

RTE is bleeding the taxpayer dry to pay for mediocre presenters and bought in cr"ap. That is not right anymore, if it ever was. :cool:

Shefwedfan · 23-04-2020 07:50PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Agree.

RTE is bleeding the taxpayer dry to pay for mediocre presenters and bought in cr"ap. That is not right anymore, if it ever was. :cool:

160 quid a year is hardly bleeding the taxpayer dry

I have said all along it needs change etc, yes I agree the goernment should not be giving them money in this crisis but 160 quid is not expensive

Quin_Dub · 23-04-2020 07:58PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

160 quid a year is hardly bleeding the taxpayer dry

I have said all along it needs change etc, yes I agree the goernment should not be giving them money in this crisis but 160 quid is not expensive

I don't necessarily have an issue with how much money they get , but it's what they spend it on is the problem.

Some of their News/Current affairs stuff is excellent as are some of the local interest stuff.

But paying for re-runs of overseas shows or inflated salaries for on-screen "talent" is wasteful.

Leave them with the money , but sharply narrow the focus of what they can spend it on.

Drive up the quality of what they produce and cut out the wasteful repetitive crap.

Kivaro · 23-04-2020 08:09PM

NIMAN wrote: »

And not a mention of it on the rte website.

Not surprising i suppose.

But it is news in the country, when the state broadcaster is asking the tax payers to subsidise their staff's wages, again.

So they should have an article on it.

Actually, I heard it on the early RTE Radio 1 news this morning.
And of course, as they described the reasons why RTE needed to avail of the government's wage subsidy scheme, they went to great pains at the end of the report to mention that the Trump golf resort in Doonbeg was also using the same program.

What a bunch of shysters to use a comparison like that.

Shefwedfan · 23-04-2020 08:16PM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

I don't necessarily have an issue with how much money they get , but it's what they spend it on is the problem.

Some of their News/Current affairs stuff is excellent as are some of the local interest stuff.

But paying for re-runs of overseas shows or inflated salaries for on-screen "talent" is wasteful.

Leave them with the money , but sharply narrow the focus of what they can spend it on.

Drive up the quality of what they produce and cut out the wasteful repetitive crap.

I agree, the license is ok but the wastage in RTE is not getting value for money.....some of it is just a black hole

I still dont know how they manage to make RTE player so ****,....aprt from the ads which are clear as day, the actually program is then terrible

AndyBoBandy · 24-04-2020 06:58AM

I can’t wait for 2021 when RTÉ will be desperate for a bailout for all the sports events they’ll need to cover that were due to take place in 2020 that they’ll not have budgeted for!!

But they should have extra money in the pot from not covering said events in 2020 I hear you say!!

Yeah well, operation Covid-Nation and the ensuing PR disaster won’t have been cheap, and that new daily show with Brendan Courtney!!! Yeah, there’s your Olympics budget gone right there....

You can be absolutely sure that RTÉ will try and wrangle at least a few million per year out of the Government over this (they already are ffs). It’ll be like treating gunshot wounds with bonjela & Micky Mouse plasters!

Shefwedfan · 24-04-2020 07:09AM

^^^^

This is the problem, they have to stop been bailed out or they will have a "problem" every year and more money will be pumped in,.

I have no idea what to do to stop it.....but they should not be given a penny of tax payer money during this crisis

RabbleRouser2k · 24-04-2020 07:21AM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

^^^^

This is the problem, they have to stop been bailed out or they will have a "problem" every year and more money will be pumped in,.

I have no idea what to do to stop it.....but they should not be given a penny of tax payer money during this crisis

Don't forget ANOTHER home chef type show, and ANOTHER property show.

Mark Moriarty is the new 'home chef' that RTE will try and push on people.

And then there's another property show, about buying a cheap house....

Yeah, property... that's what EVERYONE will want to buy in a an economy heading into another recession.
But Dee minus will keep her job.

She can hide behind Covid.

Shefwedfan · 24-04-2020 07:25AM

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Don't forget ANOTHER home chef type show, and ANOTHER property show.

Mark Moriarty is the new 'home chef' that RTE will try and push on people.

And then there's another property show, about buying a cheap house....

Yeah, property... that's what EVERYONE will want to buy in a an economy heading into another recession.
But Dee minus will keep her job.

She can hide behind Covid.

Home cooking at the moment is big business across all channels. I dont watch but I can see the reason

The property shows? which one? I actually am getting old so I like to watch some of them once kids are down and you want TV that you dont have to think about :P

As I said, some of the content is good....but keeping RTE on stupid wages while the rest of the country suffers is terrible.

My wife was watching that Operation Transformation last night, now that is a absolute ball ofs**t,. I can't think of the female presentors name, but she must be paid by the word. People trying to talk and she just kept cutting them off mid sentance to tell about how she felt.....

RabbleRouser2k · 24-04-2020 07:34AM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Home cooking at the moment is big business across all channels. I dont watch but I can see the reason

The property shows? which one? I actually am getting old so I like to watch some of them once kids are down and you want TV that you dont have to think about :P

As I said, some of the content is good....but keeping RTE on stupid wages while the rest of the country suffers is terrible.

My wife was watching that Operation Transformation last night, now that is a absolute ball ofs**t,. I can't think of the female presentors name, but she must be paid by the word. People trying to talk and she just kept cutting them off mid sentance to tell about how she felt.....

Yes, home cooking is decent... problem is RTE have a slew of home chefs.

We have Donal Skehan, Neven McGuire, Rachel Allen (which tend to be repeats nowadays, she mostly does VM1 and UK channels), Rory O'Connell (and occassionally his sister Darina Allen). That and repeats of 'healthy appetite', a show so sh**e, it got the nickname 'guess who's ruining the dinner'.
Oh, and Lordds and Ladles... which will be repeated because corona.

RTE doesn't need another cooking show. Similarly, they don't need another property show. The new one is literally called 'Cheap Irish Homes'.
RTE have way too many shows about property... from renovation, to building a house, to buying a house, to all the inbetweens.
There are far too many.#

As for Kathryn Thomas-I think she is getting paid by the word. That's the only explanation for that Ghoulish show.
(I'm not watching it-I hate Kathrynnow).

AndyBoBandy · 24-04-2020 08:13AM

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

RTE doesn't need another cooking show. Similarly, they don't need another property show. The new one is literally called 'Cheap Irish Homes'.
RTE have way too many shows about property... from renovation, to building a house, to buying a house, to all the inbetweens.
There are far too many.#

The problem (for us) is that these shows are very cheap to produce.

The cooking shows;

The cook/presenter.
2 camera men/women
Sound guy
Producer

(of course with RTÉ there'd be at least another 15 people involved in post production)

Same goes for the property shows...

24-04-2020 08:29AM

What gets me is the formulaic approach - I would especially single out the fifteen to twenty minutes of collected jottings and meandering, wandering verbal vomiting and diarrhoea that makes up the start of Ryan Tubridy and Ray D'Arcy's radio shows.

Committed to the airwaves with scarcely any breathing in, beating the drum of kindness, books, pals, messing, porridge, running, promoting their TV shows on Thursdays and Fridays (a bit in the past now as far as Ray is concerned, admittedly) or, on the following Mondays and Tuesdays, going back over their TV shows.

Between the pair of them, there's the thick end of a €1m a year - add Mr Duffy in, and it's €1.5m A year!

We have a lot to thank Noel Kelly for.

NIMAN · 24-04-2020 08:29AM

We have to face facts folks, cooking shows are actually very popular.

The fact that they are also cheap to produce makes them great for the TV companies too.

Its not just RTE that are coming down with cooking programmes, every channel is the same.

Brock Turnpike · 24-04-2020 08:30AM

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

The problem (for us) is that these shows are very cheap to produce.

The cooking shows;

The cook/presenter.
2 camera men/women
Sound guy
Producer

(of course with RTÉ there'd be at least another 15 people involved in post production)

Same goes for the property shows...

I can tell from experience* that for Home of The Year, they had 3 people on-site for the filming/direction. Then had the 3 judges. The filming team done a 12 hour shift (7-7) and the judges done roughly 10am - 7pm. That was for a single house as part of an episode. Times that *3 and you get a full episode. Times that by 7 and you get a full season (minus the final which was filmed in a single day also) and that gives you an idea of the amount of effort that goes into that type of show.

*neighbour was a contestant on the show

Idbatterim · 24-04-2020 08:32AM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

I don't necessarily have an issue with how much money they get , but it's what they spend it on is the problem.

Some of their News/Current affairs stuff is excellent as are some of the local interest stuff.

But paying for re-runs of overseas shows or inflated salaries for on-screen "talent" is wasteful.

Leave them with the money , but sharply narrow the focus of what they can spend it on.

Drive up the quality of what they produce and cut out the wasteful repetitive crap.

Current affairs staff excellent? Dont name me laugh , if they had done a proper job reporting on the many faeces here, we would be in a better place. Why have rte never investigated the welfare state and abuse. It's common in other countries media. Why didn't they get the councils on when discussing the housing crisis , seeing they are the single biggest culprit in blocking development?

ButtersSuki · 24-04-2020 08:40AM

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

I can tell from experience* that for Home of The Year, they had 3 people on-site for the filming/direction. Then had the 3 judges. The filming team done a 12 hour shift (7-7) and the judges done roughly 10am - 7pm. That was for a single house as part of an episode. Times that *3 and you get a full episode. Times that by 7 and you get a full season (minus the final which was filmed in a single day also) and that gives you an idea of the amount of effort that goes into that type of show.

*neighbour was a contestant on the show

That's not an RTE produced shows though. That's a show made by a company and sold to RTE. They're going to be lean to maximise profits.

If RTE made that show there'd be 60 people involved, 50+ of them doing next to nothing.

lomb · 24-04-2020 08:57AM

I've no interest in paying for something I don't believe in or use. Il be putting up a big electric gate with a tresspasser warning to keep them out permanently( oh and not subscribe to ntl or Sky)

Shefwedfan · 24-04-2020 09:22AM

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Yes, home cooking is decent... problem is RTE have a slew of home chefs.

We have Donal Skehan, Neven McGuire, Rachel Allen (which tend to be repeats nowadays, she mostly does VM1 and UK channels), Rory O'Connell (and occassionally his sister Darina Allen). That and repeats of 'healthy appetite', a show so sh**e, it got the nickname 'guess who's ruining the dinner'.
Oh, and Lordds and Ladles... which will be repeated because corona.

RTE doesn't need another cooking show. Similarly, they don't need another property show. The new one is literally called 'Cheap Irish Homes'.
RTE have way too many shows about property... from renovation, to building a house, to buying a house, to all the inbetweens.
There are far too many.#

As for Kathryn Thomas-I think she is getting paid by the word. That's the only explanation for that Ghoulish show.
(I'm not watching it-I hate Kathrynnow).

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No messing I will watch the "cheap irish homes"

:p:p old age. The Misses likes to watch and then give me jobs if she see's something nice

Shefwedfan · 24-04-2020 09:25AM

lomb wrote: »

I've no interest in paying for something I don't believe in or use. Il be putting up a big electric gate with a tresspasser warning to keep them out permanently( oh and not subscribe to ntl or Sky)

Believe me, the big electric gate would cost you circa 20 years of the license fee just to buy the motors etc. Not even the big gate. SO maybe 30 years of the license fee

Doesn't really seem like a good financial option

MrMusician18 · 24-04-2020 11:30AM

Now, I hate RTE as much as the next man, but, at this time I wouldn't actually begrudge RTE some assistance. And to be fair, the pandemic crisis does illustrate the value of public service broadcasting and to be fair, they have done an ok job of it.

That's not too give them a free pass though. Their current coverage hasn't been inquisitive enough at times and all too willing to accept the government line. This though isn't unique to RTE, as Irish journos are generally far too pally with those in power. And of course there is the fine line between being inquisitive and undermining the national effort.

Nevin Parsnipp · 24-04-2020 11:45AM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Now, I hate RTE as much as the next man, but, at this time I wouldn't actually begrudge RTE some assistance. And to be fair, the pandemic crisis does illustrate the value of public service broadcasting and to be fair, they have done an ok job of it.

That's not too give them a free pass though. Their current coverage hasn't been inquisitive enough at times and all too willing to accept the government line. This though isn't unique to RTE, as Irish journos are generally far too pally with those in power. And of course there is the fine line between being inquisitive and undermining the national effort.

Fair point...but they should not get any assistance until they address the huge wedges being trousered by a small cohort of "top talent" as they call them.... and submit to a rigourous evaluation by an independant group of management consultants.

Kivaro · 24-04-2020 11:55AM

How many face masks would Ryan Tubridy's €1/2 million per year get us?
And then add in the other RTE "stars" on lucrative 6 figure salaries.

masculinist · 24-04-2020 11:56AM

RTE should be based outside the M50 where its easier to access for the whole country. The Montrose site is worth billions and should be given over to social housing.
A slimmed down modern studio on cheaper land outside the m50 or in a location which needs investment is the proper thing to do. Just like when building prisons etc. They could save a small town like e.g Moneygalls post office, Garda station or school just by being there. Dublin 4 doesn't need a taxpayer funded monstrosity to survive.

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