Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

ACitizenErased · 23-04-2020 05:39PM

The nursing homes are riddled. They were right when they said community spread is basically zero. There'll be a lot more deaths.

Harry Palmr · 23-04-2020 05:40PM

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

936 is a big number. They must be getting deep into the care homes now.

He just mentioned it.

owlbethere · 23-04-2020 05:40PM

omerin wrote: »

Looking ahead, they need to ramp up of the flu vaccine for the coming season and everyone who is fit an healthy to take it should. This will save resources.

Just a thought and to hammer the point through, the churches should ring their bells once for every soul lost each day at a set time. It should be seen as a mark of respect and remind those ignoring the rules or getting complacent. The reason I say this is that I live opposite a large park and the amount of walkers, runners, cyclists is unbelievable. In addition the amount of cars parking is way too high, do they not understand that the exercise limit is 2km and you shouldn't need to drive to your exercise location ffs.

General point that pisses me off is people speaking to one or more on a path generally situate themselves on opposite sides of the path and a lot of people walk between them! Worse still when this is in a park and there is a ****ing field that they could move to

The church bells ringing would be a lovely sentiment. Agree about flue vaccine. Everyone should get it.

domrush · 23-04-2020 05:40PM

Any figures on how many are currently in the ICU?

MD1990 · 23-04-2020 05:40PM

must be alot of asymptomatic people since every nursing home in each country is being hit hard.

joe_99 · 23-04-2020 05:41PM

Great increase in testing really getting to identify cases. Really positive to find these ones.

Poorside · 23-04-2020 05:41PM

This day 2 weeks ago I could see a big bump coming, sun was out and people that were coming into where I work were getting complacent, this is going nowhere fast unless we as a country cop on.

ACitizenErased · 23-04-2020 05:41PM

domrush wrote: »

Any figures on how many are currently in the ICU?

142 remain.

PokeHerKing · 23-04-2020 05:41PM

ek motor wrote: »

From Worldometers:

New York State Governor Cuomo said that preliminary findings from an antibody study conducted on 3,000 people in New York State found a 13.9% actual infection rate statewide (and 21.2% in New York City), which translates to an estimate of about 2,700,000 actual cases in New York State (10 times more than the about 270,000 cases that have been detected and reported officially). Governor Cuomo acknowledged that the official count reported by New York State (which still is not including probable deaths as recommended by the new CDC guidelines) of about 15,500 deaths is "not accurate" as it doesn't account for stay at home deaths. Based on Worldometer's count (which includes probable deaths reported by New York City) of about 21,000 deaths and the 2,700,000 case estimate from the new antibody study, the actual case fatality rate in New York State could be at around 0.78%

I reckon whatever the factor of undiagnosed cases is you can probably apply to deaths as well.

me89 · 23-04-2020 05:41PM

domrush wrote: »

Any figures on how many are currently in the ICU?

142 in ICU

irishlad. · 23-04-2020 05:41PM

142 people in Intensive care

rm212 · 23-04-2020 05:42PM

What was the breakdown of new cases with regards to nursing homes and otherwise? % wise

ACitizenErased · 23-04-2020 05:42PM

Poorside wrote: »

This day 2 weeks ago I could see a big bump coming, sun was out and people that were coming into where I work were getting complacent, this is going nowhere fast unless we as a country cop on.

It's nursing homes. Community spread is nearing 0.

Beasty · 23-04-2020 05:43PM

MD1990 wrote: »

must be alot of asymptomatic people since every nursing home in each country is being hit hard.

Every one? I thought it was around half had confirmed cases, but that may have gone up with the recent increase in testing. They've just said 191 nursing homes which is way short of "every one"

thecretinhop · 23-04-2020 05:44PM

The government although slow are not to blame for nursing homes. In my view the agency staff companies make a fortune yet many treat staff poor also many nursing homes I have seen charge insane money for a **** staff and service.
Imo it has spread so bad in nursing homes as agency staff went from one home to the other again and again

0gac3yjefb5sv7 · 23-04-2020 05:44PM

Sorry if this has been covered by why are figures so high recently in nursing homes? Did they not have lockdowns measures also? Surely they should have been the ones protected before even regular members of the public given them profile of this virus..

stephenjmcd · 23-04-2020 05:45PM

Whenever they look back on this, the major findings will be in relation to nursing homes and care settings. Major changes will have to come out of this

Arghus · 23-04-2020 05:46PM

Streets outside where I am fairly busy.

Sigh.

Why can't people just heed the advice.

bettyoleary · 23-04-2020 05:46PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I'm so sorry for your loss. It must be tough on the workers in nursing homes as well. The whole thing is awful.

I'm sorry for your loss.

stephenjmcd · 23-04-2020 05:47PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

142 remain.

Down on yesterday? Just cant find yesterdays number

ACitizenErased · 23-04-2020 05:48PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Down on yesterday? Just cant find yesterdays number

Pretty much the same afaik
Edit: according to worldometers its down by 5

Marty Bird · 23-04-2020 05:48PM

Julianna Gorgeous Hydrant wrote: »

Sorry if this has been covered by why are figures so high recently in nursing homes? Did they not have lockdowns measures also? Surely they should have been the ones protected before even regular members of the public given them profile of this virus..

A lack of proper guidance to the nursing homes from the beginning and the health care workers are the big vectors spreading within these settings maybe a lack of proper PPE.

briany · 23-04-2020 05:49PM

Hmm, looks to me like we're seeing the seed of an idea being carefully planted on this thread - that no matter how cases and deaths may continue to rise, it's mostly in care homes.

And that means we can shake our heads and say what a terrible shame it is. Right after we sink our fifth after-work pint down the boozer.

paddythere · 23-04-2020 05:49PM

Arghus wrote: »

Streets outside where I am fairly busy.

Sigh.

Why can't people just heed the advice.

The Gardai have slacked off and are not enforcing it anymore

giveitholly · 23-04-2020 05:51PM

paddythere wrote: »

The Gardai have slacked off and are not enforcing it anymore

Yeah noticed that,met them everyday last week coming home from work,yet to meet them this week!!

tucker1971 · 23-04-2020 05:51PM

Julianna Gorgeous Hydrant wrote: »

Sorry if this has been covered by why are figures so high recently in nursing homes? Did they not have lockdowns measures also? Surely they should have been the ones protected before even regular members of the public given them profile of this virus..

I was wondering the same myself...if any office or construction site or any other place of work had elderly people on the premises I think we would see the same results.
My point been that there are a lot of asymptomatic people around and it's not just the care staff in nursing homes.

ACitizenErased · 23-04-2020 05:51PM

paddythere wrote: »

The Gardai have slacked off and are not enforcing it anymore

I have noticed in the last few days the number of Gardai enforcing the rules here in Cork City has reduced significantly. Someone has to be telling them to stop enforcing them.

billybonkers · 23-04-2020 05:51PM

paddythere wrote: »

The Gardai have slacked off and are not enforcing it anymore

It shouldn't be up to them to be honest

Away With The Fairies · 23-04-2020 05:51PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Preliminary results of antibody testing in New York showed 14% of New Yorkers have antibodies for COVID-19.

What about the other 86%?

Fann Linn · 23-04-2020 05:51PM

thecretinhop wrote: »

The government although slow are not to blame for nursing homes. In my view the agency staff companies make a fortune yet many treat staff poor also many nursing homes I have seen charge insane money for a **** staff and service.
Imo it has spread so bad in nursing homes as agency staff went from one home to the other again and again

Perhaps if the HSE had answered the request for advice on the 6 March from the nursing homes they could have advised or directed. Am I correct in believing they didn't even acknowledge the initial letter?

Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

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