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Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭rm212


    is_that_so wrote: »
    1) That will very close to the day, maybe next weekend.
    2) We'll definitely see that next week
    3) They are pretty good at this now.

    1) Tony literally just said that as of now, we can’t do this, so no.
    2) Next week is not now, that’s the entire point of my post.
    3) Still doesn’t exist now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,402 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Tony dropping a hint they might be open to smaller sporting events going ahead at some point.

    He sees the big ones with 40-50k+ spectators as far more of a problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Nope! 5 days...they hope...my mother's nursing home was told.
    Some have been done, but residents only first I believe. De Gascun said they are testing them daily.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭Michael Dwyer


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Nope! 5 days...they hope...my mother's nursing home was told.

    Well then Docarch that paints a different picture on today's new cases. Hope your mam is doing well. Must be hard not being able to visit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,776 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    But it's all OK Kermit... Pastor Copeland killed the Coronavirus with the 'Wind of God' recently. :rolleyes:





    What are all these god botherers so damn creepy looking?

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Will these be eventually added to the official Covid deaths?

    I would think that they will.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭Michael Dwyer


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Tony dropping a hint they might be open to smaller sporting events going ahead at some point.

    He sees the big ones with 40-50k+ spectators as far more of a problem.

    Shur that's ridiculous. 5,000 at a match will do damage. 500 even.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 smallfryy


    Hiya guys!
    Can some just quickly update on where we are in relation to 'flattening the curve'?
    I thought the daily figures were steady enough but still high enough to warrant all the restrictions in place.
    Then a man working in Tesco said to me today that we are at 0.7% at the moment so everything will be back to normal soon.

    Firstly I don't know what that even means.
    Secondly, with all the very sad losses still being reported each day it *feels* like he may be misinformed...

    So where are in terms of the curve please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,212 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I know it's facts that are already out in the open, but that is shocking how much the figure jumps after 70.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 464 ✭✭Iamabeliever


    Akabusi wrote: »
    On masks, a friend of mine who lives in Singapore sent me a message with the following:
    Covid carrier - chances of transmission to a person wearing a mask = 70%
    Covid carrier wearing a mask - chances of transmission to a person not wearing a mask = 5%
    Covid carrier wearing a mask - chances of transmission to a person wearing a mask = 1.5%

    Are you gonna put them figures back up in the sky when your done?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭poppers


    lbj666 wrote: »
    They started before last weekend and turnaround of tests/results is 24-36 hours now.

    Its 24 -36hrs once the swab reaches the lab.
    You can prob add a day each side to get swab done and sent to lab and results back to patient


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Allinall wrote: »
    I don’t see any mixed messages.

    What I do see is people not listening properly and jumping the gun with assumptions of things they thought they heard.

    If the current lax attitude to the restrictions continue, then I can see at best nothing changing on May 5th, and possibly a further tightening of the restrictions.

    The large minority of idiots will hold the country back for weeks, if not months.

    Our minister of health giving an interview that can only be read through subscriptions is not appropriate communication at this time in my opinion. Harris was giving his opinion on what “he’d like to do” with schools opening up one day a week before summer etc has given mixed messages particularly to people that only will read headlines. I know there is other ways for people to get info but many won’t bother.

    Leo was right to state last night that he doesn’t want to comment on plans that are still being looked at as it leads to speculation. They may need to have another Leo press concerned asking people to keep going or we may have current restrictions extended. Our economy can’t afford for people to become complacent. We won’t get another shot at this


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭Michael Dwyer


    Tony EH wrote: »
    What are all these god botherers so damn creepy looking?

    1.jpg

    That fella is something else.

    However the thread isn't one for insulting people of faith.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,982 ✭✭✭Panrich


    Tony says the percentage growth of deaths day on day is still decreasing.

    Here is the problem with that while the daily numbers are not coming down over an extended period.

    If I went out and killed 100 people per day:

    On day 1 my daily increase is 100%
    On day 10 my daily increase is 10%
    On day 50 my daily increase is 2%
    On day 100 my daily increase is 1%

    I'm still killing 100 people per day and relying on decreasing day by day percentages is not going to fix the problem on it's own.

    At some point we need to see actual daily numbers decrease significantly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,201 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Singapore reports 1,016 new cases of coronavirus and 1 new death. That's the highest increase in new cases for the city state so far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,714 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    America
    People staring down those trying to do their job and save lives.


    They applaud their front line soldiers, but mock the front line health care workers.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Stheno wrote: »
    Uturn on facemasks on the way

    Why do you say that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    rm212 wrote: »
    1) Tony literally just said that as of now, we can’t do this, so no.
    2) Next week is not now, that’s the entire point of my post.
    3) Still doesn’t exist now.
    I bet you could never wait for Christmas day as a child! The plan will take time to produce so that means next week. The CMO is always talking about waiting to see the full impact of things so also next week, although I reckon it could be the BH Monday so we don't jump the gun. So chill and reawaken that kid's strategy of how many sleeps to go!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Shur that's ridiculous. 5,000 at a match will do damage. 500 even.

    If little or no effort is made to distance people from each other then yes you are correct.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Maybe the wrong place to ask. Are agricultural masks, used for chemical sprays, hay dust etc. helpfull for Covid? I have a few.

    Any type of face covering will help


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Gretas Gonna Get Ya!


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    Big change since last Friday / Saturday . What ever happened since then seems to have changed people’s attitudes. There probably needs to be an official conference similar to the one before Patrick’s Day and the end of March. Traffic is much heavier this week

    People were losing their minds after a couple of days in the house... what do you really expect?

    Most people don't have the stamina for this sort of war of attrition... there is a thread on here with people being depressed because they can't have a pint in their local... while hundreds are dying in ICU's... I even heard them on the radio too, whining about it. Pathetic juvenile stuff...

    There's no chance people are going to keep this up for months. Some will... but many just won't... they'll break. Many already have.

    That's why we needed a hard lockdown early doors. Not this half-baked watered down nonsense!

    People suggesting that we're doing great - horsesh*t - most of you guys don't have a fcuking clue. You can throw around your stats and twist them to suit your agenda all you want, but your wrong! We're struggling... and we're not out of this thing by a long shot!

    Some of you guys think, just because our hospitals aren't currently collapsing... this means we're doing great. You're wrong! Our daily average death rate has been increasing rapidly over the past 2-3 weeks... but you guys have been ignoring these stats, in favour of the stats that make you feel better!

    Sorry to be the doom-monger... but this isn't currently getting better, it's getting worse! Many of us have been saying this over the last few weeks, but you guys just don't want to hear it. Some of you really have the blinkers firmly on!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Singapore reports 1,016 new cases of coronavirus and 1 new death. That's the highest increase in new cases for the city state so far.
    They've screwed up with the migrant workers, who seem to be treated as 2nd class citizens.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    in week 35 in 2019 in the UK about 8242 all cause deaths were recorded, in one week. the following week was about the same. looking at the stats, the vast majority were over the age of 65, that's in one week now. according the the papers, the UK today, death toll is at 18,000 thereabouts and we can call it 4 weeks ok and say the death rate is as per week 35 in 2019, 4 times 8242, is 33,000 rounded up.
    If half of these are in care homes or aged and living at home so very high risk
    this would be a normal figure and we could take the other 15,000 and allocate them into the usual other causes of death.

    OR do we not take the normal 8242 per week and add our covid -19 18,000 and call the month 51000 deaths for the 4 weeks. or off the normal 33000 has the covid 19 just guaranteed or expedited the older groups deaths ? if so, the weekly rate is normal

    It's the same here, were literally don't know because the testing and reporting is all over the place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,201 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    is_that_so wrote: »
    They've screwed up with the migrant workers, who seem to be treated as 2nd class citizens.

    It's a stunning reversal for Singapore who were being praised up until a week and a half a go.

    Now restrictions are being tightened and extended until June.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    America
    People staring down those trying to do their job and save lives.


    They applaud their front line soldiers, but mock the front line health care workers.

    It's ridiculous. If anyone of us here were asked in January to guess which country would have this going on, we'd have all said America.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Maybe the wrong place to ask. Are agricultural masks, used for chemical sprays, hay dust etc. helpfull for Covid? I have a few.
    There's a thread all about masks.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058066011


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    poppers wrote: »
    Its 24 -36hrs once the swab reaches the lab.
    You can prob add a day each side to get swab done and sent to lab and results back to patient
    No, De Gascun said 24-36 hours total.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭deaddonkey15


    Panrich wrote: »
    Here is the problem with that while the daily numbers are not coming down over an extended period.

    If I went out and killed 100 people per day:

    On day 1 my daily increase is 100%
    On day 10 my daily increase is 10%
    On day 50 my daily increase is 2%
    On day 100 my daily increase is 1%

    I'm still killing 100 people per day and relying on decreasing day by day percentages is not going to fix the problem on it's own.

    At some point we need to see actual daily numbers decrease significantly.

    Flawed analogy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Fiery mutant


    The ‘shur it’ll be grand’ attitude is really starting to come out now in some people. There’ll forever be a cohort of people who don’t give a phuck about anyone but themselves.

    We should defend our way of life to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed, so that any adversary will never make such an attempt in the future.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    One or two of the people running the country need to give a stern and definitive public speech on adhering to restrictions. Less of the prevarication or public soundings on back out measures. Take it seriously. No politicking. Tell some of the stories of real people dealing with coronavirus like the sick and the healers, the dead, instead of these numbers that confusingly shuffle and endless bloody graphs. With 12 days left up to and including May 5th we have a chance to really get on top of things. Plus time to learn more which is almost as important. We should stop p1ssing away that time with half cocked implementation of measures.


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