Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Something interesting I found out about coconut oil. It has lauric acid and when consumed it converts to monolaurin in the body.

Here's the interesting part, monolaurin binds to the lipid part of the virus and preventing the virus from attaching and entering host cells so makes it harder for an infection to take hold.

I've been spooning it back.

hiya, do you have any research studies links for that. thanks

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Something interesting I found out about coconut oil. It has lauric acid and when consumed it converts to monolaurin in the body.

Here's the interesting part, monolaurin binds to the lipid part of the virus and preventing the virus from attaching and entering host cells so makes it harder for an infection to take hold.

I've been spooning it back.

from : https://theconversation.com/5-claims-about-coconut-oil-debunked-85320

Some internet sites claim coconut oil can kill viruses, fungi and bacteria due to its content of monolaurin, a compound derived from lauric acid.

Studies in mice show monolaurin can provide some protection against the bacteria Staphylococcus aureus (responsible for some staph infections), but researchers doing this study found no effect with either refined or virgin coconut oil.

In particular types of infection, there is some possibility monolaurin might be of use, but it’s not valid to extrapolate from this to make claims about coconut oil when there’s no evidence the body can make monolaurin from coconut oil.

Instead, a manufactured form of monolaurin (glycerol monolaurate) is found in coconut oil and is popular for its emulsifying and moisturising properties in cosmetics, detergents and soaps. These properties in coconut oil could support its benefits as a surface moisturiser or make-up remover.

ShineOn7 wrote: »

From the Reddit user who makes all the data very easy to digest:


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New Cases: 388 Germany: N/A
Total Cases: 16041
New Death: 44
Total Deaths: 730 (*1 death de-notified)
Male: 18
Female: 26
Median Age: 87
Underlying conditions: 33

• Deaths: 730
• Hospitalised + died in hospital: 363 50%
• Died in ICU: 47 6%
• Underlying conditions: 601 (82%)
• Median age: 83

Of 318 in ICU

• Remain in hospital: 143 (45%)
• Discharged: 127 (40%)
• Died: 47 (14.80%)
• Underlying conditions: 263 (83%)
• Median Age: 60

As of Sunday 19th

• Cases: 15464
• In Hospital: 2323 (15%)
• In ICU: 315 (2.0%)
• Deaths: 719 (4.60%)
• Clusters: 491
• Account for 3447 cases
• Median age infected: 48
• Healthcare workers: 4180

Clusters

• Residential Homes: 287
• Nursing Homes: 176
• Death Nursing Homes: 427 - 303 lab confirmed
• Deaths Residential: 502 - 394 lab confirmed

Testing

• 111,584 tests - Increase in 20822
• 4025 positive - 19% positivity rate

Hospitalisations

• 816 Currently in hospital
• 856 Discharged
• 295 Deaths in hospital (And never in ICU)

ICU

• 156 currently in ICU
• 105 discharged
• 47 deaths

FOR EVERYONE WHO ALWAYS ASK FOR RECOVERY NUMBERS
Recoveries in community (never in hospital)

• 8377 recovered (55%)
• Balance are still within the first 14 days

Questions

• 9000-10000 capacity for testing a day. 24-36 hours once a sample reaches the lab for a result

Can you post a link to that reddit info please? Thanks!
Edit: nevermind, I found it

XsApollo wrote: »

You might not have social distancing but you can have manners and good hygiene.
Masks should be worn.
Stop coughing and in people faces,
Hand sanitizers on all transport.
No picking your nose and rubbing on the seat.
That sort of stuff.

This!!

There is no social distancing in places like China and Korea but they they seem to be doing fine

Roger_007 wrote: »

Is ‘normal’ medicine being neglected.
I had to get a prescription renewed this week. I used to see the GP every six months and get my prescription renewed after a physical check by my GP. I rang the surgery and was redirected to another number as my GP is working from home. He explained that he was only doing phone consultations and not physically seeing patients and would email my prescription to the pharmacy.
I mentioned this on a WhatsApp group, (about 20 members), to see if anyone had actually physically seen their GP recently. Three others had a similar experience to me and nobody knew of any GP who was actually seeing patients in their surgeries or clinics.
All this was put into perspective when I listened to the Scottish CMO at yesterday’s presser in Edinburgh. He was saying that there was a worrying drop in referrals by GPs for potentially serious conditions. He said that referrals for symptoms of cancer were down by 70% compared to pre-Covid times.
We also have almost 2000 empty hospital beds according to RTÉ reports yesterday. It looks like ‘normal’ medicine is being largely ignored.

of course, that is one of the factors that will be looked at when this lockdown is over, lives saved,what many of the casualties life expectancy was,how many will have died from suicide, how many peoples lives will be shorter due to lack of health checks etc, how future lack of funding will shorten life expectancy, how the future mental health of children will be affected, how many people are confined in abusive situations, etc etc. There will be studies into studies, there probably will be no right answers as everybody's situation is different, i am sure there are many people who are having the best experience of their lives who will be better for it.

eagle eye wrote: »

Can you trust that the food will be safe. I'd have to know everybody involved in cooking and packing the food before I'd buy it. All it takes is one irresponsible person to spread the virus.
I'm sure there are people stupid or lazy enough to go buy food in places like this.

I've been considering take-away food in a similar way. Sure; the stuff is cooked but one person coughing or even breathing over your burger or bag of chips as they are packing it up would spread the virus right?

is_that_so wrote: »

Shove it in the oven!

Per the WHO, ‘heat at 56 degrees Celsius kills the SARS coronavirus at around 10,000 units per 15 minutes.’ Also, a 2003 study of SARS says that it becomes non-infectious within 30 minutes at 75 degrees Celsius (about 167 degrees Fahrenheit).

Ehh... How do you know how many 'units' are on your burger ?

And 30 minutes at 75C would be OK if you really like leathery dehydrated burgers !

smelly sock wrote: »

Ye have to live a little. It's no more a risk that packaging in a supermarket etc.

I bring my shopping straight out to the back garden . I wipe every packaging with anti bac before bringing in to the house
I wipe the shopping bags down and hang on the line overnight .
We can all do our best with small steps to try to eliminate a risk .

Roger_007 wrote: »

It looks like ‘normal’ medicine is being largely ignored.

Yes, this has been said for a while. It's not GPs and doctors "ignoring" normal medicine, its people doing their level best to stay away from GPs and hospitals until the Covid crisis has passed.

There's nothing really wrong with phone consultations. Like companies have resisted home-working for a long time, GPs have resisted remote consultations, because face-to-face makes them more comfortable, makes them feel like they have more control.

The reality is that unless there is a physical examination required, then there it makes no difference whether the GP asks you questions over the phone or in their office.

Patients though have some difficulty with this, because we expect to see a doctor, not to just talk about being sick and get a prescription. People are not managing their health properly, and it's a big problem.

There have been a few graphs floating around about the different "waves" of illness, the massive challenges that our health services are facing beyond Covid.

Wave 2 is not the next surge of the virus. It's the people who have deferred acute conditions over the last two months and will start presenting in hospital with end-stage heart failure, COPD, pneumonia and other preventable/treatable conditions. Ordinarily our health service can cope when they present in normal numbers, not when they all start appearing at once.

Wave 3 is people with chronic or long-term conditins who've deferred treatment; cancers, surgeries, etc.; and are now in a serious mess.

After that is a surge in mental illness cases. PTSD, depression, suicide, etc. This will hit healthcare incredibly hard since healthcare workers themselves will make up so many of the patients.

RebelButtMunch wrote: »

Right, but I can wipe down my shopping with a bleach solution. As another poster says, I can lash it into the oven.
Bag of chips and a burger into the oven at 100C for 10 mins would do the trick on surfaces of cooked food I guess

And it'll probably taste awful and over cooked. Think people are over reacting here with regards take away.
My local chipper only let's 3 people in at any time, staff all behind perspex