Teaching remotely

Bobtheman · 13-04-2020 10:28am #1

Is there a secure way to teach through video ?
I have yet to find one.

TheDriver · 13-04-2020 10:45am

Bobtheman wrote: »

Is there a secure way to teach through video ?
I have yet to find one.

Google meets for educators is currently the premium version included for free and you can stream while disabling the ability to record.

Bobtheman · 13-04-2020 11:13am

TheDriver wrote: »

Google meets for educators is currently the premium version included for free and you can stream while disabling the ability to record.

Included in what for free?? Sorry I'm new to this.
Is there a secure way for podcasts?

KildareP · 13-04-2020 11:16am

Secure in what sense?

TheDriver · 13-04-2020 11:18am

Bobtheman wrote: »

Included in what for free?? Sorry I'm new to this.
Is there a secure way for podcasts?

If your school has Google for schools which is free, it includes meets regular.
Currently the premium version is included.
Not sure about podcasts.

rainbowtrout · 13-04-2020 3:02pm

You can do video calls on Teams. As far as I know you can just have the call between the people in the team, so that might work. I'm not using it as I'm not doing live stuff.

Bobtheman · 13-04-2020 3:35pm

KildareP wrote: »

Secure in what sense?

Secure in the sense that the video can not be recorded or manpulated!!!

Bobtheman · 13-04-2020 3:38pm

TheDriver wrote: »

Google meets for educators is currently the premium version included for free and you can stream while disabling the ability to record.

Just tried it. Very confusing. Cant see where it says disable ability to record??
I think I will try podcasts-if I can find a secure way there

TheDriver · 13-04-2020 4:07pm

Bobtheman wrote: »

Just tried it. Very confusing. Cant see where it says disable ability to record??
I think I will try podcasts-if I can find a secure way there

Your school admin must set that setting from the admin panel

Bobtheman · 13-04-2020 4:15pm

Not worth the effort. Think I will just record a few points on my phone and send the recording which unfoutunately is still open to being mainpulated

unhappys10 · 13-04-2020 4:18pm

Bobtheman wrote: »

Secure in the sense that the video can not be recorded or manpulated!!!

Nothing is secure in that sense. I can record my screen and there isn't much you can do about it.

mirrorwall14 · 13-04-2020 4:31pm

Bobtheman wrote: »

Not worth the effort. Think I will just record a few points on my phone and send the recording which unfoutunately is still open to being mainpulated

Can you voice over? That’s what I and most I know of are doing. PowerPoint or writing app and I audio (in music) or screen record (in maths) over it

Bobtheman · 13-04-2020 5:10pm

To be honest I dont know what Im doing.At the best of time in the classroom half of them are tuned out. Unless I impose myself upon them ie force them to pay attention!

combat14 · 13-04-2020 5:12pm

I think screencasts are the way to go - they can watch the videos at their leisure as many times as they need

TheDriver · 13-04-2020 5:20pm

What are people scared of? Even if a student shared my videos, I don't think anyone would be interested except for the instruction aspect. Plus if someone really wants to record my voice, there's other opportunities. Seems a bit tin foil hat stuff.

TheValeyard · 13-04-2020 5:25pm

TheDriver wrote: »

What are people scared of? Even if a student shared my videos, I don't think anyone would be interested except for the instruction aspect. Plus if someone really wants to record my voice, there's other opportunities. Seems a bit tin foil hat stuff.

Yeah.... you dont want your face super imposed (to a high quality of detail) you enjoying a multi cultural gang bang.

r93kaey5p2izun · 13-04-2020 5:40pm

TheValeyard wrote: »

Yeah.... you dont want your face super imposed (to a high quality of detail) you enjoying a multi cultural gang bang.

This has happened in my former school and the fall out for the teachers involved was significant. Awful stuff.

TheDriver · 13-04-2020 6:10pm

I didn't realise people were starring in their lessons, mine are my hands and the page with me speaking. Why would your face need to be in it?

Bobtheman · 13-04-2020 9:00pm

combat14 wrote: »

I think screencasts are the way to go - they can watch the videos at their leisure as many times as they need

What is a screen cast ??

JustAThought · 13-04-2020 9:03pm

Bobtheman wrote: »

What is a screen cast ??

God Almighty - what is the NCTE doing and if nothing why are they all still employed and being funded?

rainbowtrout · 13-04-2020 9:26pm

Bobtheman wrote: »

What is a screen cast ??

Where when you a video call they can see what you are doing on your screen, bit like you using a data projector in the classroom only they'll see your screen on their laptop. You can also record a video of what is on your screen and then upload that for them.

CraftySue · 13-04-2020 9:37pm

JustAThought wrote: »

God Almighty - what is the NCTE doing and if nothing why are they all still employed and being funded?

NCTE was dissolved years ago, pdst technology has taken over its role.

Bobtheman · 15-04-2020 7:54am

I think for the moment I will send notes and emails.
Getting the students to join goggle classroom was complicated enough.
Then chasing those who didn't send work or engage was also quite laborious as I ended up having to text parents.

km79 · 15-04-2020 8:05am

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/tds-seek-allowance-for-working-from-home-994059.html

TheDriver · 15-04-2020 10:49am

Bobtheman wrote: »

I think for the moment I will send notes and emails.
Getting the students to join goggle classroom was complicated enough.
Then chasing those who didn't send work or engage was also quite laborious as I ended up having to text parents.

Google classroom should be very simple, they have a code and join. No engagement equals an email to student and parent and failing that, tutor or year head.
How can you text parents? I assume not from your phone?

Random sample · 15-04-2020 10:59am

km79 wrote: »

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/tds-seek-allowance-for-working-from-home-994059.html

How out of touch with reality. Though no td is actually quoted as asking for this, are they?

Bobtheman · 15-04-2020 3:00pm

TheDriver wrote: »

Google classroom should be very simple, they have a code and join. No engagement equals an email to student and parent and failing that, tutor or year head.
How can you text parents? I assume not from your phone?

Have had to-to get them on board. We dont have parental emails. To be honest the same issues are there-indifferent students and parents. Im just covering my ass. The ridiculous idea that wwe should keep all students to 6th year has knock on consquences. Teachers health and wellbeing the sacrificial lamb. Six hours of counselling-all that is avialaBLE should set you right

Bobtheman · 15-04-2020 3:20pm

TheDriver wrote: »

What are people scared of? Even if a student shared my videos, I don't think anyone would be interested except for the instruction aspect. Plus if someone really wants to record my voice, there's other opportunities. Seems a bit tin foil hat stuff.

I once listened to a person who made a video about drink driving being sampled in a video music entitled shut up and drive. I also had a colleague whose voice mail was widely used in a house party. I think you are naive to dismiss concerns

combat14 · 15-04-2020 4:52pm

are schools going to provide teachers with work laptops to facilitate continued remote teaching and learning? my 11 year old laptop is about to pack up lol

r93kaey5p2izun · 15-04-2020 4:56pm

I want to record Maths questions on the ipad. When I screen record with audio so I can explain as I go, the noise of the pencil as I write on the screen is just too loud. Any suggestions?

jrmb · 15-04-2020 6:44pm

Brinley Prehistoric Rummy wrote: »

I want to record Maths questions on the ipad. When I screen record with audio so I can explain as I go, the noise of the pencil as I write on the screen is just too loud. Any suggestions?

It might help you to use an external microphone. Do you have a hands-free kit or Bluetooth headphones?

TheValeyard · 15-04-2020 6:45pm

Brinley Prehistoric Rummy wrote: »

I want to record Maths questions on the ipad. When I screen record with audio so I can explain as I go, the noise of the pencil as I write on the screen is just too loud. Any suggestions?

Do you have access to Teams? Use whiteboard thinge and screen record?

r93kaey5p2izun · 15-04-2020 6:50pm

jrmb wrote: »

It might help you to use an external microphone. Do you have a hands-free kit or Bluetooth headphones?

No, no hands free kit or Bluetooth headphones.

TheValeyard wrote: »

Do you have access to Teams? Use whiteboard thinge and screen record?

No, no access to Teams.

Thanks for the suggestions though.

I think I'll have to record the writing using screen record without audio first, then go back and add voice over using iMovie. It would just be a lot simpler to talk as I'm doing it. Adding the explanation afterwards is proving a lot more time consuming and requires a lot more planning. Sounds simple but it's proving tricky to get right.

Not to mention how many recordings have to be deleted and redone because of constant interruptions and background conversations.

jrmb · 15-04-2020 10:47pm

Brinley Prehistoric Rummy wrote: »

I think I'll have to record the writing using screen record without audio first, then go back and add voice over using iMovie.

That's a good idea, but I think the problem is that the built-in microphone is sensitive to the friction from the pencil. You might just need to record the audio simultaneously on a separate device (like your phone).

2xj3hplqgsbkym · 15-04-2020 10:54pm

Brinley Prehistoric Rummy wrote: »

I want to record Maths questions on the ipad. When I screen record with audio so I can explain as I go, the noise of the pencil as I write on the screen is just too loud. Any suggestions?

I ordered an ‘arm’ to hold my phone, on line, hasn’t come yet though. If you had one you could just write on paper and record audio at same time.
https://m.lightinthebox.com/p/360-degree-rotating-universal-flexible-long-arms-mobile-phone-holder-mount-lazy-clip-on-holder-stand-hands-free_p5070503.html?currency=EUR&litb_from=paid_adwords_shopping&sku=1_45&country_code=ie&utm_source=google_shopping&utm_medium=cpc&adword_mt=&adword_ct=400246735837&adword_kw=&adword_pos=&adword_pl=&adword_net=u&adword_tar=&adw_src_id=1463064549_8288759496_85725006139_pla-656278395970&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgrqdhMPr6AIVwu7tCh0N5gWSEAQYAyABEgLBuPD_BwE

r93kaey5p2izun · 15-04-2020 11:55pm

Bonnie Orange Wolf wrote: »

I ordered an ‘arm’ to hold my phone, on line, hasn’t come yet though. If you had one you could just write on paper and record audio at same time.
https://m.lightinthebox.com/p/360-degree-rotating-universal-flexible-long-arms-mobile-phone-holder-mount-lazy-clip-on-holder-stand-hands-free_p5070503.html?currency=EUR&litb_from=paid_adwords_shopping&sku=1_45&country_code=ie&utm_source=google_shopping&utm_medium=cpc&adword_mt=&adword_ct=400246735837&adword_kw=&adword_pos=&adword_pl=&adword_net=u&adword_tar=&adw_src_id=1463064549_8288759496_85725006139_pla-656278395970&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgrqdhMPr6AIVwu7tCh0N5gWSEAQYAyABEgLBuPD_BwE

Yeah, I looked at these, and they seem like a nice easy solution in general. But my living situation right now is so cramped that I'm basically living out of a box bedroom with everything I own crammed in (don't ask! I'm in the middle of a protracted probate house purchase now affected by the lockdown), and I literally have to work sitting on the edge of the bed and writing on my lap. I actually don't think I could make it work.

Treppen · 16-04-2020 7:56am

Record the audio on your phone the same time as you are doing video on iPad. Then import and overwrite the audio track on iMovie.

solerina · 16-04-2020 11:27am

combat14 wrote: »

are schools going to provide teachers with work laptops to facilitate continued remote teaching and learning? my 11 year old laptop is about to pack up lol

I wish, mine of a similar vintage must be turned on for 20-30 mins before you can use it, internet impossible...takes forever to load a page, must store everything in the cloud (actually works well there) and use a friends PC and wi-fi to get it to the students !!

Teach30 · 21-04-2020 1:16pm

Has anyone suggestions as how to upload a video faster?

I’ve recorded a video on my phone 15min long and I’ve been trying to upload to google drive for 2 hours. It’s barely moving along.

Is there a better way of doing this? Sorry bit clueless when it comes to these things. I don’t have a laptop to record on either.

jrmb · 21-04-2020 1:35pm

Teach30 wrote: »

Has anyone suggestions as how to upload a video faster?

I’ve recorded a video on my phone 15min long and I’ve been trying to upload to google drive for 2 hours. It’s barely moving along.

Is there a better way of doing this? Sorry bit clueless when it comes to these things. I don’t have a laptop to record on either.

What's the size of the file? Did you record the video in HD? If the resolution of the pictures is too high, the size of the file will be huge. If this is the case, you can downscale it, so you won't have to record it again if you're happy with the content.

Separately, are you using mobile data or Wifi to upload it? Is the connection good generally?

Avery · 21-04-2020 1:46pm

Brinley Prehistoric Rummy wrote: »

I want to record Maths questions on the ipad. When I screen record with audio so I can explain as I go, the noise of the pencil as I write on the screen is just too loud. Any suggestions?

If you have perchance have an Apple Mac Laptop with Zoom installed, you can share your iPad screen to it while recording your meeting alone with or without your face in the corner - depending on whether you turn video on or off.

Teach30 · 21-04-2020 2:04pm

jrmb wrote: »

What's the size of the file? Did you record the video in HD? If the resolution of the pictures is too high, the size of the file will be huge. If this is the case, you can downscale it, so you won't have to record it again if you're happy with the content.

Separately, are you using mobile data or Wifi to upload it? Is the connection good generally?

I don’t know what size it is or if it’s HD sorry. I’m using mobile data now on 3G. Home internet failed to upload it this is slightly better.

This isn’t really feasible long term pity because it’s a nice video and it’s easy to teach this way.

r93kaey5p2izun · 21-04-2020 2:10pm

Teach30 wrote: »

Has anyone suggestions as how to upload a video faster?

I’ve recorded a video on my phone 15min long and I’ve been trying to upload to google drive for 2 hours. It’s barely moving along.

Is there a better way of doing this? Sorry bit clueless when it comes to these things. I don’t have a laptop to record on either.

I'm having similar issues with anything over 6 minutes, and I live in Dublin with Virgin broadband. I just did a speed test and got 9.1 mbps download and 5.9 mbps upload.

Any instructions on how to downscale video files? I have had to divide videos up so far.

Teach30 · 21-04-2020 2:29pm

Brinley Prehistoric Rummy wrote: »

I'm having similar issues with anything over 6 minutes, and I live in Dublin with Virgin broadband. I just did a speed test and got 9.1 mbps download and 5.9 mbps upload.

Any instructions on how to downscale video files? I have had to divide videos up so far.

I tested mine and it’s at 0.3 mbps upload and 1.4mbps download.
I’m assuming I should just give up..! Pity it was much more enjoyable than just forwarding notes.

Random sample · 21-04-2020 2:39pm

I’d just upload shorter videos. Break them down. I haven’t uploaded anything longer than 6 minutes and they go up pretty fast.

r93kaey5p2izun · 21-04-2020 2:42pm

Random sample wrote: »

I’d just upload shorter videos. Break them down. I haven’t uploaded anything longer than 6 minutes and they go up pretty fast.

I suppose that will have to do. It takes at least 3 videos to do one LC Maths question though. Very awkward finding a natural break point too.

rainbowtrout · 21-04-2020 2:48pm

Brinley Prehistoric Rummy wrote: »

I suppose that will have to do. It takes at least 3 videos to do one LC Maths question though. Very awkward finding a natural break point too.

I've been doing the same. But they'll manage. I found that I could attach the videos I made on my phone to FB messenger and send them to myself and then I could download them instantly from FB on my laptop and then I put them on Teams. I know that sounds cumbersome, but I record all the videos first and then attach them to a message and it only takes a minute or two to send to Messenger and downloading to laptop is as long as it would typically take to download a file, a few seconds.

Uploading them from my phone to the Teams app was painfully slow, so while there's a few extra steps this way, it's far faster and I haven't thrown the phone or laptop at a wall yet!

mirrorwall14 · 21-04-2020 3:50pm

In your phone settings (iPhone/iPad) you can reduce the quality the video is recording at. Alternatively I send mine to my MacBook and use QuickTime to export them at minimum quality

I’m lucky tho, no broadband issues here. It’s better than school !

doc_17 · 21-04-2020 4:48pm

Brinley Prehistoric Rummy wrote: »

I suppose that will have to do. It takes at least 3 videos to do one LC Maths question though. Very awkward finding a natural break point too.

Maybe write out all formulae first, any andditional sketches, have calculation me done etc so that when you are actually recording the time this takes is minimised?

I haven’t done any question yet that I could get done in 1 video with max time 10 mins.

I also use a site called Molloy Maths, brilliant videos on it that I refer the students to. No need for every maths teacher in the country to do kill ourselves when they are already there.

r93kaey5p2izun · 21-04-2020 5:10pm

doc_17 wrote: »

Maybe write out all formulae first, any additional sketches, have calculation me done etc so that when you are actually recording the time this takes is minimised?

I haven’t done any question yet that I could get done in 1 video with max time 10 mins.

I also use a site called Molloy Maths, brilliant videos on it that I refer the students to. No need for every maths teacher in the country to do kill ourselves when they are already there.

It is already written out. 10-12 mins is the usual time, but that is often requiring 3 videos to upload. Students claim that website's videos are too confusing - I had tried using it and also ucd Maths support ones. They say it's not enough. And they're adults!

r93kaey5p2izun · 21-04-2020 5:13pm

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

In your phone settings (iPhone/iPad) you can reduce the quality the video is recording at. Alternatively I send mine to my MacBook and use QuickTime to export them at minimum quality

I’m lucky tho, no broadband issues here. It’s better than school !

Any specific ideas of how to do this on ipad? Thanks.

My broadband is giving 7-12 mbps download and 4-6 mbps upload at the moment. I don't really understand these figures but they do not seem anything close to advertised speeds for Virgin and while watching video is not too bad, uploading is painful.

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