Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

I think it's unlikely that we've reached an actual daily deaths peak, when the red bars are finalised in the coming days.

This. It's actually not quite as positive news but it's framed in a curious way to make it seem more positive on initial reading.

joe_99 wrote: »

This graph shows the trend is positive. If it was going in the other direction we'd be in a much worse position.

Incorrect reading of it?

I'm so cynical about how figures are being presented (in general - not targeting DOH)

Downward sloping curve - therefore it's ok! :pac:

Any epidemic will show massive growth rate at the beginning - it is starting from a base of zero after all!!

When a full population is infected the growth rate is zero.

The point is - look closely at the data and how it was gathered - do your own graph then.

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

This. It's actually not quite as positive news but it's framed in a curious way to make it seem more positive on initial reading.

Deaths will be the last of the indicators to fall, but he probably was trying to pre-empt the hysterical and innumerate journalists writing tomorrow's headlines.

Upforthematch wrote: »

If the community deaths were higher, the care home deaths would have been through the roof long go.

I'm curious, which figures will we see a dramatic improvement in next week? I'm just so sceptical about the reporting I would love to see a concrete prediction that is actually possible to 'falsify' next week.

I think you slightly misunderstand me. I was just saying that if we were facing a situation that currently e.g. 600 deaths were in the community out of 687 then it would be out of control in the community and also impossible to prevent a massive numbers of deaths in care settings also.

I think we will see a big drop in deaths with community deaths in the single figures and care settings dropping substantially also.New hospitalizations/ICU and current hospitalization rates to continue to fall.New cases are harder to predict as the relaxation of testing criteria and the concentration of tests in care settings could result in discovery of asymptomatic cases.However I would be pretty hopeful in 10 days time that the picture will be a lot better.

I have been confident all along that we would control the spread in the community but I totally underestimated the death rate in care settings.Feel free to quote me at month end....whether I'm right or wrong!!!!!

Covid 19 world reported case numbers to date.

1st known case 8th December in Wohan, China

0.5 million cases March 26th… which was 108 days later.

1 million cases April 2nd… which was 6 days later.

1.5 million cases April 8th… 6 days later.

2 million cases April 14th… 6 days later.

Looks like it will reach 2.5 million tonight, another 6 day gap.

2,473,536 cases at the moment.

The rate of increase seems steady, but this may be due to increasing cases in poor countries where testing is less than ideal.

Terrifying figures for worldwide cases though.

Does anyone know if this Abbott 15 minute test has been used outside of America?
Whats the false positive rate of it?

kaymin wrote: »

We're the 9th worst country in the world for Covid deaths per million, if you exclude minnows such as Andorra, San Marino and Sint Maarten.

One spot behind Sweden.

Not great.

Too early to tell. We are reporting everything, others aren't, not nefariously so.

We may be worse on the table position but only a small uptick in deaths these months while others below us may have their worst month since WW2.

fritzelly wrote: »

Dunno why it's hard for people to get this through their head - we don't exclude deaths of patients who died outside of the hospital

Are you implying every other country does? Isn't a study underway to assess every nursing home death this year to determine the precise cause i.e. our numbers are also potentially significantly understated?

joe_99 wrote: »

Dangerous game afoot in the USA. Could get bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z3Rs7VMIs4

kaymin wrote: »

Are you implying every other country does? Isn't a study underway to assess every nursing home death this year to determine the precise cause i.e. our numbers are also potentially significantly understated?

Correct - beyond only reporting primary cause of death, nursing homes have been a big missing part of the figures for many many countries not being included in their death figures
Not to say coronavirus caused the death and may have been a complete coincidence but Ireland includes all confirmed patients regardless cause of death.
UK only includes hospital confirmed cases - their death numbers are way higher (unless they've chnaged now?)

Trump is shameless... It's supposed to be the White House Coronavirus Task Force Daily Press Briefing.

And he drags the Mexico wall into it !

Trump stooge governor of Georgia to open his state ASAP...only 59 deaths today

https://twitter.com/FelinaBlanc/status/1252341356816564225