Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

JP Liz V1 · 20-04-2020 06:35PM

nacho libre wrote: »

Apologies if it has already been answered, but are some of the new cases part of the German backlog?

I believe today's new cases was from Irish labs

Kivaro · 20-04-2020 06:38PM

blackcard wrote: »

I am someone who was very supportive of our efforts in relation to this crisis but what is going on in our nursing and residential homes is shocking and disgraceful. Jeez, they came out and talked about 'cocooning' our elderly when most of us didn't know what that meant so they knew that these were at risk locations but they seem to have done feck all in protecting our elderly. I am livid and I can only imagine what the residents and those with relatives are feeling

I would imagine that the residents of those nursing homes i.e. the people who worked for many decades to make Ireland the country it is now, are desperately disappointed that they were so badly let down during this crisis. The warning signs were plain to see (Italy), but 'we' did not heed them. That is probably the worst part of all of this.

Arghus · 20-04-2020 06:38PM

I must say the reporters ask terrible questions. Fergal Bowers is a bit better than the others.

When are the pubs going to open?
I hear you've been working on a vaccine Tony.

Downlinz · 20-04-2020 06:38PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Zara King laughing during her reporting of the Covid 19 cases on Virgin 3, asking purely idiotic questions all week too.Need more professional reporters working on this not some naive reporter

I don't know what was happening today but she's been very professional and compassionate throughout the pandemic.

It's worth considering that reporting an Irish body count day after day as they pile into the hundreds and towards one thousand probably isn't the kind of thing journalists have mentally prepared for and I'm sure it's very stressful and taxing for them as well.

It could be very well be a response of struggling under grief and anxiety for so long rather than having the craic at the HSE briefing.

timsey tiger · 20-04-2020 06:39PM

How do they define East, South, West etc. Is it based on the Provences?

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 20-04-2020 06:39PM

That jump is heartbreaking.

Funsterdelux · 20-04-2020 06:39PM

thecretinhop wrote: »

shinners out in force today

Is the new season out on netfilx yet. Bill Pullman is very good.

Harry Palmr · 20-04-2020 06:39PM

The media briefing has been largely reduced to pointless speculative pleading.

nacho libre · 20-04-2020 06:39PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Backlog is cleared - any German testing now is part of the normal testing timeframe

So most of the current cases must be due to the fiasco in the nursing home. Death are probably going to remain high for a while yet as a result.

Beasty · 20-04-2020 06:40PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

UK deaths are hospital only. Ours are any COVID related death. How can you possibly compare? Have you ever studied Maths?

Ours are still those diagnosed (via a test)

They referred to another 130 or so today where it is suspected. I'm pretty sure that's on top of the 687 "official" figure

Arghus · 20-04-2020 06:41PM

Downlinz wrote: »

I don't know what was happening today but she's been very professional and compassionate throughout the pandemic.

It's worth considering that reporting an Irish body count day after day as they pile into the hundreds and towards one thousand probably isn't the kind of thing journalists have mentally prepared for and I'm sure it's very stressful and taxing for them as well.

It could be very well be a response of struggling under grief and anxiety for so long rather than having the craic at the HSE briefing.

That vaccine question from her was beyond stupid. How could a reporter be so oblivious to reality?

ACitizenErased · 20-04-2020 06:41PM

https://twitter.com/datavizireland/status/1252290828569059332?s=21

https://twitter.com/datavizireland/status/1252291046840635395?s=21

tobefrank321 · 20-04-2020 06:42PM

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

Implementing the lockdown when they did was a good thing

Otherwise there would have been many more dead!

We are not far off Swedens death rate despite them having minimal restrictions.

Speak Now · 20-04-2020 06:42PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

I must have misheard him, was sure today he said 60.

I think that was median age of new cases Toby.

bfa1509 · 20-04-2020 06:42PM

bfa1509 wrote: »

This is worse than Italy and Uk (but not Spain's) record for most deaths on one day if you take it as deaths per 1 million of population:

Worst days:

Spain - 20.21 p/m
Ireland - 15.7 p/m
Italy - 15.31 p/m
UK - 14.8 p/m
USA - 7.7 p/m

Here it is in graph format

Gynoid · 20-04-2020 06:42PM

Beasty wrote: »

Ours are still those diagnosed (via a test)

They referred to another 130 or so today where it is suspected. I'm pretty sure that's on top of the 687 "official" figure

I don't watch tv or these briefings. What does that mean - another 130?

Mervyn Skidmore · 20-04-2020 06:42PM

Arghus wrote: »

That vaccine question from her was beyond stupid. How could a reporter be so oblivious to reality?

What was the question?

lbj666 · 20-04-2020 06:42PM

rm212 wrote: »

The lag period doesn’t matter, you’re missing the entire point and arguing semantics.

It isnt semantics, its actually very important that these deaths are graphed out by date occurred to give a reflection of where the trend of this actually going because the deaths by day notified stats are all over the shop, we had 14 last sunday week.
Some of the case on Saturday dated as far back as 2-3 weeks ago, thats only a few days into the current restrictions.

amadangomor · 20-04-2020 06:43PM

Mario007 wrote: »

I've been through the pandemic in China. I've followed news in Slovakia and Czech republic because I used to live there. I've been following the news in Ireland because my mother and father who have underlying heatlh issues live here and honestly I have to say I would be happier if they were in any of the three above mentioned countries during this pandemic. Back in March I was thinking, Ireland is probably the safest place as the government seems to be at least compentent, Ireland is an island nation and people are reasonable here.

After following the news in the past two weeks, it's honestly been extra anxiety inducing. The case numbers are through the roof in comparison to say Slovakia or the Czech republic (and it's not like Ireland is testing that much more than either of those countries). What's more worrying is the death numbers are also through the roof and I know for a fact that at least Slovakia records nursing home numbers.

I know I'm only looking at all this from afar but I would say the Irish government has done a piss poor job of this whole mess. Let's remember that only a month ago they were still eager to hold St Patrick parades and Varadkar even flew over to the US to get a picture with Trump. They have underestimated this crisis at every stage. Praising them for doing the minimum effort and not being like Trump or Bolsonaro who deny the virus is an issue really tells you how bad they messed up when that's their only praise. And I say all this as someone who was a member of Young FG back in college. I'm not advocating putting anyone else in power like SF, in fact I think they'd do an even worse job. Doesn't change the fact that what Varadkar's governemnt did is far from enough as these numbers tell us.

Jesus H fkn christ stop goping on about the Paddys day thing.

They were always going to cancel it. The way they announced it was part of a strategy to slowly introduce the restriction regime to the public.

easypazz · 20-04-2020 06:43PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/datavizireland/status/1252290828569059332?s=21

https://twitter.com/datavizireland/status/1252291046840635395?s=21

More excellent news.

Gynoid · 20-04-2020 06:44PM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

That jump is heartbreaking.

Have to say it made me shed a tear.

bfa1509 · 20-04-2020 06:44PM

hmmm wrote: »

Every country is using different metrics. We are using a very broad figure, and we know that because the usual suspects aren't berating the government for "lying about the number of deaths".

E.g. the UK are barely counting deaths in nursing homes
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/18/uk-care-home-covid-19-deaths-may-be-five-times-government-estimate

Take out deaths in nursing homes, we'd have very few deaths comparatively.

Very true. I didn't consider this. Did Italy report non-hospital deaths? I'm not sure.

Downlinz · 20-04-2020 06:45PM

Arghus wrote: »

That vaccine question from her was beyond stupid. How could a reporter be so oblivious to reality?

She's at that briefing almost every day and has asked everything pertinent by now, it's a dumb question and a forced one but the network demands she asks something for their moment live.

tobefrank321 · 20-04-2020 06:46PM

easypazz wrote: »

Excellent news, and with falling new cases and ICU numbers, all the key indicators are looking good.

What planet are you on?

Beasty · 20-04-2020 06:46PM

Speak Now wrote: »

I think that was median age of new cases Toby.

From today's Press release:

Breakdown of the 77 deaths
42 females and 34 males (1 case has not been fully reported)
the median age of the people who died was 84
54 people had underlying health conditions

Breakdown of the 687 total COVID-19 related deaths in Ireland
348 (51%) deaths occurred in hospitals
the median age was 83
the mean age was 69
the age range was 23-105

hmmm · 20-04-2020 06:47PM

easypazz wrote: »

More excellent news.

These stats tell us the real number of new cases have been following for nearly a week.

theoneeyedman · 20-04-2020 06:47PM

Good job they told us that we had peaked and were in control last week,or I certainly wouldn't have noticed.....

An Ciarraioch · 20-04-2020 06:48PM

Beasty wrote: »

From today's Press release:

Breakdown of the 77 deaths
42 females and 34 males (1 case has not been fully reported)
the median age of the people who died was 84
54 people had underlying health conditions

Breakdown of the 687 total COVID-19 related deaths in Ireland
348 (51%) deaths occurred in hospitals
the median age was 83
the mean age was 69
the age range was 23-105

Any details yet on the regions - haven't been any deaths in the South in recent days - edit, details here:

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1252288810806845442

JP Liz V1 · 20-04-2020 06:48PM

Arghus wrote: »

That vaccine question from her was beyond stupid. How could a reporter be so oblivious to reality?

To be fair to Zara I think she asked as earlier today there was talk of vaccine but more so for immunisation week so miss communication

Icyseanfitz · 20-04-2020 06:50PM

RIP, 77 is heart breaking

suppose todays new cases are more indicative of our actual daily numbers as we have no backlog from Germany increasing them, be interesting to see if they go down this week or hold steady or hopefully not, increase

Covid19 Part XVI- 21,983 in ROI (1,339 deaths) 3,881 in NI (404 deaths)(05/05)Read OP

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