Is it just me or have SF vanished?

ILoveYourVibes · 20-04-2020 10:57AM

joeguevara wrote: »

As far as I remember he got a test live on the late late show. There is zero backlog for testing. 150000 swab reagents have gone through quality control. 11500 tests done last week. Is there an issue with people getting tested.

No he didn't.

He said specifically they weren't going to waste people's time and it was a fake test.

1.16 he says he won't be wasting resources to test it.
:rolleyes:

ILoveYourVibes · 20-04-2020 11:08AM

Mary Lou got test the 28th of march.

Tubs got a test in one day.

20-04-2020 12:15PM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Mary Lou got test the 28th of march.

Tubs got a test in one day.

Are you really seeing some conspiracy theory in that :P.

20-04-2020 12:34PM

On SF, Pearse Doherty is good but could do with smiling a bit, Eoin Ó Broin also good but both and SF in a general way are too fond of social media and twitter in particular, Mary Lou is excellent as a party leader and TD, Louise O'Reilly I would not rate at all way too fond the sound bit.

They do have some good politicians.

For me its the followers that put me off plus the spin and social media aspect.

I wonder at what level they as a party are responsible for their supporters? some of the social media profile of some supporters is real loony stuff combined with a conspiracy about everything, full of who owns what in Ireland, who is related to who all of it incorrect. There was a sociologist who did research in to the anti vaxers and guess what they were more likely to vote SF.

So how much responsibility has any political party for the views of its supporters? and more importantly, why do they coalesce around SF?

markodaly · 20-04-2020 01:37PM

Well SF do have some hard-working people in their party, I will give them that.
They have a very small handful of politicians who you would not be scared to be around the cabinet table.
But that is where the compliments end for me.

Their base are utterly deluded. They are the Irish version of the MAGA cap-wearing Trump supporters.
Their online voice grossly exaggerates their actual support among the average voter.

Their policies are made up on the go. Stick the finger up in the air, see what way the populist wind is blowing and go with that.
That is not a way to run a country. Their piss arseing around about the pension age again shows us that they are not serious to take on the hard decisions.

Of course, when it comes to results, what have SF actually done since 1998. What big policy have they enacted and pushed through in the North for example, or at local level here in the south?

Nada! Nothing..

So, as I said, some good hard working people that may fix that pothole for you, but for the big questions on the national level? Found wanting time and again as they are terrified of doing 'something' that may scare away votes, so they do what they often do best, which is nothing. If you do nothing, you can never be tagged, but of course its the cowards way out.

markodaly · 20-04-2020 02:49PM

And they are back, peddling fake stats..

https://twitter.com/PadraigMacL/status/1251802785445806082

I suppose that's is all they are good for.
Shooting tweets from the sidelines.

Edgware · 20-04-2020 02:56PM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Not true. He got a fake test on tv.

:rolleyes:

Mary Lou was in isolation for two weeks. It couldn't have taken her that long to get a test.

But she refused to wear prison clothes

all about the mane · 20-04-2020 03:20PM

markodaly wrote: »

And they are back, peddling fake stats..

https://twitter.com/PadraigMacL/status/1251802785445806082

I suppose that's is all they are good for.
Shooting tweets from the sidelines.

So much for parties working together. Undermine at every opportunity. SF putting the party before the people as always

markodaly · 20-04-2020 04:07PM

all about the mane wrote: »

So much for parties working together. Undermine at every opportunity. SF putting the party before the people as always

Nah, sure the narrative is that they are keeping a check on power or something to that effect.
I guess that is what anti-vaxxers tell themselves as well when they spread their dangerous lies that go on and kill people.

all about the mane · 20-04-2020 04:46PM

markodaly wrote: »

Nah, sure the narrative is that they are keeping a check on power or something to that effect.
I guess that is what anti-vaxxers tell themselves as well when they spread their dangerous lies that go on and kill people.

As long as SF don’t be looking for the vaccine when it arrives. Wouldn’t want to be hypocritical now.

a very cool kid · 20-04-2020 05:04PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I am missing something,or is that lad replying to him,just working off made-up numbers

Rents last few years are rising at 5 to 8% not 2??...even as high as 12% per annum in areas??

If rents are going even faster it makes it an even better deal for the state? State is locked in at 750/month in perpetuity so if it costs 1100 to HAP somewhere when prices rise the state saves 350. That's before you factor in inflation

Blaze420 · 20-04-2020 05:21PM

markodaly wrote: »

And they are back, peddling fake stats..

https://twitter.com/PadraigMacL/status/1251802785445806082

I suppose that's is all they are good for.
Shooting tweets from the sidelines.

But the peeple voted 4 chaaaange :rolleyes: thank **** these gob****es aren’t running the country at the moment

walshb · 20-04-2020 05:46PM

Seriously, if I hear this utter ****e about change.......

FG/FF and SF all polled similarly as regards seats

Change my arse!!! Just people voting..

McMurphy · 20-04-2020 06:08PM

walshb wrote: »

Seriously, if I hear this utter ****e about change.......

FG/FF and SF all polled similarly as regards seats

Change my arse!!! Just people voting..

Yeah the last election results were completely and utterly insignificant and felt like all the others that have come and gone before. /rolls eyes.

James Brown · 20-04-2020 06:24PM

walshb wrote: »

Seriously, if I hear this utter ****e about change.......

FG/FF and SF all polled similarly as regards seats

Change my arse!!! Just people voting..

FYI: every vote not for the government on the day is a vote for change. That's just logic.
I think you're confusing the electorate who didn't vote FG with SF supporters. Many non-SF supporters didn't vote FG, which includes many who voted FG the previous election.

Edgware · 20-04-2020 06:36PM

all about the mane wrote: »

As long as SF don’t be looking for the vaccine when it arrives. Wouldn’t want to be hypocritical now.

Especially if it is distributed on British Army trucks up North,

McMurphy · 20-04-2020 06:40PM

Bowie wrote: »

FYI: every vote not for the government on the day is a vote for change. That's just logic.
I think you're confusing the electorate who didn't vote FG with SF supporters. Many non-SF supporters didn't vote FG, which includes many who voted FG the previous election.

For 100 years we have had either a FG or a FF led govt, with the very very rare exception either one of the two needed another scapegoat to prop them up, or a govt couldn't be formed.

In 2020 even when FF and FG cobble together with each other they don't have the numbers to form a govt without roping in a scapegoat.

Add to that - FG found themselves as the third largest party as regards seats, with Sinn Fein leapfrogging them. With Leo stating fairly publicly that he and FG wanted to go into opposition as opposed to going into govt.

Yeah no change at all. Business as usual so it is.

Hubertj · 20-04-2020 06:48PM

truly shameful posts on this thread,

Bishop of hope · 20-04-2020 07:07PM

McMurphy wrote: »

For 100 years we have had either a FG or a FF led govt, with the very very rare exception either one of the two needed another scapegoat to prop them up, or a govt couldn't be formed.

In 2020 even when FF and FG cobble together with each other they don't have the numbers to form a govt without roping in a scapegoat.

Add to that - FG found themselves as the third largest party as regards seats, with Sinn Fein leapfrogging them. With Leo stating fairly publicly that he and FG wanted to go into opposition as opposed to going into govt.

Yeah no change at all. Business as usual so it is.

But you must recognise the big change in circumstances since the election!
Really unwittingly FG have found themselves at the head of probably by a mile the biggest crisis we as a country have ever faced, and they faced it, they didn't head for cover and wait till the dust settled.
Now they and FF have cobbled together a paper ideal, which probably isnt worth the paper it's written on, but they have cobbled something they at least agree on and if they get backing a possible Govt.
SF have had more time than FG to work out a strategy that could see them form a Govt with others but they haven't come up with anything.
Just the usual, no it's not what's needed, we need change, people voted for change.
I call bull**** on SF on this, let them get their arses in gear and counter this with something concrete and create the change

walshb · 20-04-2020 07:12PM

Bowie wrote: »

FYI: every vote not for the government on the day is a vote for change. That's just logic.
I think you're confusing the electorate who didn't vote FG with SF supporters. Many non-SF supporters didn't vote FG, which includes many who voted FG the previous election.

I know all this...

There was no vote for change, because the two main parties look like they will be in government.

SF just come across as whiney sore losers..

maccored · 20-04-2020 07:21PM

jaysus lads - just read the last few pages. It's hilarious reading. cant help thinking of oul women with handbags having a good gossip about a neighbour they dont like. Hands down the funniest thing ive read all day.

all about the mane · 20-04-2020 07:51PM

walshb wrote: »

I know all this...

There was no vote for change, because the two main parties look like they will be in government.

SF just come across as whiney sore losers..

SF couldn’t have made a bigger mess of things since the election. Hilarious to watch!

James Brown · 20-04-2020 08:13PM

Bishop of hope wrote: »

But you must recognise the big change in circumstances since the election!
Really unwittingly FG have found themselves at the head of probably by a mile the biggest crisis we as a country have ever faced, and they faced it, they didn't head for cover and wait till the dust settled.
Now they and FF have cobbled together a paper ideal, which probably isnt worth the paper it's written on, but they have cobbled something they at least agree on and if they get backing a possible Govt.
SF have had more time than FG to work out a strategy that could see them form a Govt with others but they haven't come up with anything.
Just the usual, no it's not what's needed, we need change, people voted for change.
I call bull**** on SF on this, let them get their arses in gear and counter this with something concrete and create the change

Actually FG had announced they relished going into opposition and knocked back FF twice....before their hand was forced to remain on longer than would likely have been the case. They faced it, so what? If Dublin Bus was in charge they would have too. You make it sound like it was 'High Noon' and Varadkar Gary Cooper ffs.
SF, SD, Greens, Labour etc. etc. etc. DID NOT AND DO NOT HAVE THE NUMBERS.

The change I believe people are talking about is the fact that the two civil war parties combined don't have the numbers either.

walshb wrote: »

I know all this...

There was no vote for change, because the two main parties look like they will be in government.

SF just come across as whiney sore losers..

See above. And if you want 'whiney', plenty of FG posters and politicians to look to

'We relish going into opposition' = 'I'm taking me ball an' I'm going home'.

Shefwedfan · 20-04-2020 08:16PM

mariaalice wrote: »

For me its the followers that put me off plus the spin and social media aspect.

I wonder at what level they as a party are responsible for their supporters? some of the social media profile of some supporters is real loony stuff combined with a conspiracy about everything, full of who owns what in Ireland, who is related to who all of it incorrect. There was a sociologist who did research in to the anti vaxers and guess what they were more likely to vote SF.

So how much responsibility has any political party for the views of its supporters? and more importantly, why do they coalesce around SF?

https://www.sinnfein.ie/sfos

all about the mane · 20-04-2020 08:32PM

Bowie wrote: »

Actually FG had announced they relished going into opposition and knocked back FF twice....before their hand was forced to remain on longer than would likely have been the case. They faced it, so what? If Dublin Bus was in charge they would have too. You make it sound like it was 'High Noon' and Varadkar Gary Cooper ffs.
SF, SD, Greens, Labour etc. etc. etc. DID NOT AND DO NOT HAVE THE NUMBERS.

The change I believe people are talking about is the fact that the two civil war parties combined don't have the numbers either.

See above. And if you want 'whiney', plenty of FG posters and politicians to look to

'We relish going into opposition' = 'I'm taking me ball an' I'm going home'.

They are in government.
They are trying to form another government.
They are handling the crisis.

What are SF doing? Sweet F all. Well apart from the usual whining.

all about the mane · 20-04-2020 08:33PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

https://www.sinnfein.ie/sfos

The digital rising...

:D:D

McMurphy · 20-04-2020 08:44PM

all about the mane wrote: »

They are in government.
They are trying to form another government.
They are handling the crisis.

What are SF doing? Sweet F all. Well apart from the usual whining.

Some aspects they've done ok, others not so much. 77 deaths today is on par with Italy's highest death toll in a single day.

Then there's the nursing home situation.

Don't take my word for that though.

Doctor resigns from Irish Medical Council after criticising 'mismanagement' of Covid-19 outbreak

tipptom · 20-04-2020 09:26PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Some aspects they've done ok, others not so much. 77 deaths today is on par with Italy's highest death toll in a single day.

Then there's the nursing home situation.

Don't take my word for that though.

Doctor resigns from Irish Medical Council after criticising 'mismanagement' of Covid-19 outbreak

I think they have done okay and have made made decisions that was better than a lot of other governments but it was mostly down to the experts in the background.Bad decision from Holohan on the nursing homes when they should have been locked down to visitors.

It is nothing short of what you would expect from FF sleeveens to go around behind the scenes of a pandemic to try and get themselves into government and no one should even be talking to the corrupt power hungry scumbags while this is ongoing.

Owen o Callaghan and the rest of them must be demanding their pound of flesh to be stripped again of the Irish tax payer to repay the money that was given to the likes of Michael Martin and the rest in FF for their private accounts.

washman3 · 20-04-2020 09:36PM

all about the mane wrote: »

'They are handling the crisis'

You were going well until you came out with this nonsense.
They have made a total 'dogs dinner' of the crisis and as each day goes by we are seeing more proof of this. An absolute shambles.

P.S. For the record i'm not a 'shinner' and agree that they have been equally useless in this crisis.

all about the mane · 20-04-2020 09:36PM

tipptom wrote: »

I think they have done okay and have made made decisions that was better than a lot of other governments but it was mostly down to the experts in the background.Bad decision from Holohan on the nursing homes when they should have been locked down to visitors.

It is nothing short of what you would expect from FF sleeveens to go around behind the scenes of a pandemic to try and get themselves into government and no one should even be talking to the corrupt power hungry scumbags while this is ongoing.

Owen o Callaghan and the rest of them must be demanding their pound of flesh to be stripped again of the Irish tax payer to repay the money that was given to the likes of Michael Martin and the rest in FF for their private accounts.

Owen O’Callaghan is dead

Is it just me or have SF vanished?

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