Is it just me or have SF vanished?

Pkiernan · 19-04-2020 02:44PM

With ML out of action, who will deny the cover up of the rape of children by IRA men?

Will Piercy step up to the plate and go on the offensive against the victims?

Mortelaro · 19-04-2020 02:49PM

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

Do you think circumstances during a pandemic are different to "normal times"?

That's it,they aren't
Maintaining that they are the same is Epic straw man

aido79 · 19-04-2020 02:52PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Temporary or permanent makes little difference to me - you stated quite clearly that left wing policies were the last thing the country needed, now after realising what an asshat of a post it was are saying - oh yeah actually we do need left wing policies but just as a temporary measure.

So to sum it up the last thing the country needs right now is left wing policies except the left wing policies the govt just implemented because they don't count because they're temporary.

Looks like the very first thing to be implemented were left wing policies.

Have a word with yourself aido.

I think you know that I meant long term implementation of left wing policies. These are temporary measures so make of them what you will.

During this pandemic the last thing the country needs is actually a bigger left right divide which is what Sinn Fein seem to be pushing for which is a big change from their original call for a unity government.

McMurphy · 19-04-2020 02:57PM

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

Do you think circumstances during a pandemic are different to "normal times"?

No, I'm not claiming any such thing, I am pointing out how moronic it is to suggest that the last thing needed in a pandemic is left wing policies - the evidence is staring them in the face.

I don't think many will argue to keep such policies ongoing post covid (well the private v public health servic could be looked at) anyone doing so would be a moron.

However very first response to the pandemic was to adopt some left wing policies that is a fact.

Simple yes or no will do here, do you think the last thing needed during the pandemic was to nationalise the private hospitals and introduce a fairly generous social welfare payment scheme?

Yes or no. No deflection and look over there >

McMurphy · 19-04-2020 03:00PM

aido79 wrote: »

I think you know that I meant long term implementation of left wing policies. These are temporary measures so make of them what you will.

During this pandemic the last thing the country needs is actually a bigger left right divide which is what Sinn Fein seem to be pushing for which is a big change from their original call for a unity government.

I think you know that a poster earlier clearly mean "thought" when he wrote "taught" - and I rate grammar Nazis slightly above above pedantic trolls.

Not a good look.

Mortelaro · 19-04-2020 03:02PM

But the pandemic crisis response isn't an economic policy
It's an insurance pay out specially legislated to combat an emergency

19-04-2020 03:06PM

Mortelaro wrote: »

But the pandemic crisis response isn't an economic policy
It's an insurance pay out specially legislated to combat an emergency

Tbf the e350 a week to drop down to e203 a week after 12 weeks should be looked into long term

It would provide great income security for low paid workers in tourism/agri/childcare etc sectors as these can have slow periods,where staff are often left go and re-hired seasonally (perhaps a slightly higher prsi rate could apply?)

And differentiate from those with poor job security and those who just wont work

Mortelaro · 19-04-2020 03:13PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Tbf the e350 a week to drop down to e203 a week after 12 weeks should be looked into long term

It would provide great income security for low paid workers in tourism/agri etc sectors as these can have slow periods,where staff are often left go and re-hired seasonally (perhaps a slightly higher prsi rate could apply?)

And differentiate from those with poor job security and those who just wont work

I don't know what is going to happen in terms of response as the year goes on but I'd imagine the trend in response will be to support the economy's journey back as close to pre crisis levels eventually as soon as circumstances allows
A continuous €350 payment is not likely, I'd expect it to be stepped back as jobs return

19-04-2020 03:16PM

Mortelaro wrote: »

I don't know what is going to happen in terms of response as the year goes on but I'd imagine the trend in response will be to support the economy's journey back as close to pre crisis levels eventually as soon as circumstances allows
A continuous €350 payment is not likely, I'd expect it to be stepped back as jobs return

I suspect your right (afaik its to end july 1st)...but it is something to ponder long term,to provide income security among lowest paid in the state

McMurphy · 19-04-2020 03:19PM

Mortelaro wrote: »

But the pandemic crisis response isn't an economic policy
It's an insurance pay out specially legislated to combat an emergency

Who is suggesting otherwise?

During the pandemic the very first measures introduced had a fairly strong left wing flavour coming of them, short term, medium term or ongoing indefinitely doesn't matter a toss.

The govt have done well in some aspects of their response to this crisis, and oddly enough both right wingers and left wingers alike will be championing the left wing response.

Just as was pointed out earlier, the idiotic left wing policies that would ruin the country suddenly stop being idiotic and disastrous when FF FG try and cobble a bit of an agreement to stop pretending they're any different to each other and rob these policies and swear to introduce them if we all agree to forget the last 100 years.

Mortelaro · 19-04-2020 03:42PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Who is suggesting otherwise?

During the pandemic the very first measures introduced had a fairly strong left wing flavour coming of them, short term, medium term or ongoing indefinitely doesn't matter a toss.

That's straw man as they are not economic policies
They are a legislated response to combat a government almost full shut down to the Economy to mitigate its effects
Effectively they are retroactive insurance

The govt have done well in some aspects of their response to this crisis, and oddly enough both right wingers and left wingers alike will be championing the left wing response.

just as was pointed out earlier, the idiotic left wing policies that would ruin the country suddenly stop being idiotic and disastrous .

With respect, that's laughable because if the measures taken were done if there was no pandemic, we'd be broke quickly
Your straw man argument is epic though
Epic

tipptom · 19-04-2020 04:05PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Well like yes,your mocking and sneering at people who have isolated,because they have coronavirus and developed pluericy is patethic....i have no issue owning those words??

Indeed id go as far to.call them.scumbag posts.....could likely go further and say truth,but id likely be banned

Just take a look at that posters history of posts attacking and bullying women.

He has a post saying that he and his wife are applying for a joint mortgage and I have asked him to please show his wife the bullying posts directed exclusively towards women to give her an opportunity to see what it reveals about him and she may want to re-evaluate taking such a drastic step.

Scumbags does not go far enough to describe men who prey on women who are in public life in this fashion and I have questioned the mods here last week about this particular poster but he has been allowed carry on like this and the only explanation is that it dosent seem to matter when its about SF women.

No wonder The Journal and Boards are struggling with this bias.

blanch152 · 19-04-2020 04:32PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Temporary or permanent makes little difference to me - you stated quite clearly that left wing policies were the last thing the country needed, now after realising what an asshat of a post it was are saying - oh yeah actually we do need left wing policies but just as a temporary measure.

So to sum it up the last thing the country needs right now is left wing policies except the left wing policies the govt just implemented because they don't count because they're temporary.

Looks like the very first thing to be implemented were left wing policies.

Have a word with yourself aido.

Temporary or permanent may make little difference to you - you have to take that stance to maintain a pedantic argument on an internet board - but they make a huge difference in the real world as anybody can see.

blanch152 · 19-04-2020 04:35PM

McMurphy wrote: »

You where literally on here just days ago saying you witnessed her at an online Easter commemoration.

She withdrew from public life while also appearing in public life.

I imagine you typed out the word "disingenuous" above without a shred of irony of guilt.

One appearance in a month? That is your answer?

blanch152 · 19-04-2020 04:37PM

Whelo79 wrote: »

P.S. My previous response wasn't in reply to you. I know you hold the majority of posts in this thread but not every conversation is aimed at you.

Just checked, I have around one-fifth of the posts of the leading poster in this thread, who, as always, is a republican.

Whelo79 · 19-04-2020 06:47PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Just checked, I have around one-fifth of the posts of the leading poster in this thread, who, as always, is a republican.

Have you no answer to the rest of the post, no? You just cut that out from your quoted reply. Typical.

Jamie2k9 · 19-04-2020 10:02PM

Eoin tweeted this morning....
https://twitter.com/EOBroin/status/1251786475286429696

https://twitter.com/lawlessj/status/1251925311740092417

Its rather basic error...

19-04-2020 11:17PM

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Eoin tweeted this morning....
https://twitter.com/EOBroin/status/1251786475286429696

https://twitter.com/lawlessj/status/1251925311740092417

Its rather basic error...

Hilarious in fairness, but not in the slightest bit surprising.

blanch152 · 20-04-2020 12:46AM

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Eoin tweeted this morning....
https://twitter.com/EOBroin/status/1251786475286429696

https://twitter.com/lawlessj/status/1251925311740092417

Its rather basic error...

There are probably Shinnerbots all over Twitter retweeting O’Broins tweet. Like the lies about the working from home allowance, the truth doesn’t matter, it is only the political impact, that has always been the way with Sinn Fein.

Hopefully the lie doesn’t end up here.

markodaly · 20-04-2020 01:20AM

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Eoin tweeted this morning....

Its rather basic error...

Yea, in fairness to Eoin, he is not a qualified accountant or economist, even though he likes to pretend he is one. Much like many in SF.

Not only that, but I am also surprised he ignored the headline itself, that FF and FG are prepared to amend the constitution to try and reign in land prices.....

That IS a big deal as it is the primary reason why housing is expensive, but Eoin seems to go off on a tangent but failed utterly.

ThunbergsAreGo · 20-04-2020 06:25AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Hilarious in fairness, but not in the slightest bit surprising.

Facts aren't really they important in politics (or life) these days. He's got this sweet sweet likes and retweets.

It's soundbites and slogans

20-04-2020 07:56AM

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Eoin tweeted this morning....
https://twitter.com/EOBroin/status/1251786475286429696

https://twitter.com/lawlessj/status/1251925311740092417

Its rather basic error...

I am missing something,or is that lad replying to him,just working off made-up numbers

Rents last few years are rising at 5 to 8% not 2??...even as high as 12% per annum in areas??

ILoveYourVibes · 20-04-2020 08:01AM

I would like to know how Mary Lou got a test so fast when others are waiting ages?

Fann Linn · 20-04-2020 08:04AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I would like to know how Mary Lou got a test so fast when others are waiting ages?

ask Tubbs, Ciara Kelly or Claire Byrne.They might be able to tell you.

McMurphy · 20-04-2020 09:23AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I would like to know how Mary Lou got a test so fast when others are waiting ages?

How 'fast' did she get a test?

ILoveYourVibes · 20-04-2020 09:28AM

Fann Linn wrote: »

ask Tubbs, Ciara Kelly or Claire Byrne.They might be able to tell you.

Tubs got a test????

I thought he was just ill?

So how are politicians and celebs getting tests and normal people can't?

aido79 · 20-04-2020 10:18AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Tubs got a test????

I thought he was just ill?

So how are politicians and celebs getting tests and normal people can't?

Are these serious questions?

Ryan Tubridy got tested live on the late late show and Mary Lou had to wait 2 weeks for test results.

Where are you seeing preferential treatment for politicians and celebrities?

joeguevara · 20-04-2020 10:30AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Tubs got a test????

I thought he was just ill?

So how are politicians and celebs getting tests and normal people can't?

As far as I remember he got a test live on the late late show. There is zero backlog for testing. 150000 swab reagents have gone through quality control. 11500 tests done last week. Is there an issue with people getting tested.

blanch152 · 20-04-2020 10:48AM

Whelo79 wrote: »

Have you no answer to the rest of the post, no? You just cut that out from your quoted reply. Typical.

You made a personal comment about me that was untrue, I corrected the record, you haven't even apologised for your mistake, in fact you are doubling down on the insults, and you want me to answer the rest of your post?

Have a think about why I mightn't be bothered.

ILoveYourVibes · 20-04-2020 10:53AM

aido79 wrote: »

Are these serious questions?

Ryan Tubridy got tested live on the late late show

Not true. He got a fake test on tv.

:rolleyes:

Mary Lou was in isolation for two weeks. It couldn't have taken her that long to get a test.

Is it just me or have SF vanished?

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