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Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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  • #9512
    Hego Damask
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 842 ✭✭✭Hego Damask


    entertainment at the finest....


  • #9513
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,553 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    We are the king of ventilators.... christ


  • #9514
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    2ndcoming wrote: »
    Viruses have one goal: find hosts and multiply. Viruses that are highly fatal are generally not highly contagious. Mainly because the people that have them are too sick to be out and about spreading them, once everyone infected either dies or recovers, the virus fizzles out.

    This coronavirus is a mutation of SARS (hence SARS-Cov-2) that is less fatal overall but far more contagious, because people who have it can be out and about spreading it for days before they become sick. Those who do become sick (ie require hospitalisation) essentially have developed SARS, at which point the virus is just as fatal. The problem is the gestation period.

    I think there is a hope that the virus will mutate and essentially Nerf itself into something more benign. However remote that is I don't know but hopefully it'll happen.


  • #9515
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,991 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    2ndcoming wrote: »
    Viruses have one goal: find hosts and multiply. Viruses that are highly fatal are generally not highly contagious. Mainly because the people that have them are too sick to be out and about spreading them, once everyone infected either dies or recovers, the virus fizzles out.

    This coronavirus is a mutation of SARS (hence SARS-Cov-2) that is less fatal overall but far more contagious, because people who have it can be out and about spreading it for days before they become sick. Those who do become sick (ie require hospitalisation) essentially have developed SARS, at which point the virus is just as fatal. The problem is the gestation period.

    Yes, and HIV is a weird one. A gestation period of about a decade and near 100% cfr.

    Imagine if that virus surfaced in the middle ages!


  • #9516
    jackofalltrades
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,289 ✭✭✭jackofalltrades


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Not that simple.

    The reason most governments told people that masks aren't that effective was to stop people going out and buying large numbers of face masks and reducing the supply to healthcare workers.
    Even 40 days ago trying to get a facemask online was all but impossible..
    All they needed to do was be honest with people.
    Tell them to make their own masks at home and leave the medical ones for the front line workers.
    People would have followed it quick enough.


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  • #9517
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,321 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    We are the king of ventilators.... christ

    He seems to be getting things done. Dont get the ill will against him.

    :D


  • #9518
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    We are the king of ventilators.... christ

    He went all in on ventilators while the rest of the world was buying ppe, reagent etc.

    Now they are playing catchup on the testing.


  • #9519
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,583 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Yes, and HIV is a weird one. A gestation period of about a decade and near 100% cfr.

    Imagine if that virus surfaced in the middle ages!

    Likely burnt itself out - people weren't flying around the world at the time


  • #9520
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/miblogestublog/status/1245114817876287488

    What the Holy fcuk. Washing vegetables in a sh1tty puddle.


  • #9521
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,331 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Yes, and HIV is a weird one. A gestation period of about a decade and near 100% cfr.

    Imagine if that virus surfaced in the middle ages!
    It would have been just another yearly "plague" back then IG. They didn't just have the black death, they had rolling plagues of all kinds with different symptoms and different death rates for a couple of centuries. Never mind the usual background colds, flu, measles etc.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • #9522
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,782 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    '' people said it was the same as the flu, it's nothing like the flu at all''


  • #9523
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    theballz wrote: »
    As I said, I am waiting over two weeks. My case was prior.

    Despite claims the backlog is gone, many still waiting on results or also some lost tests

    I hope tomorrow you'll get yours and it'll be good news, take care


  • #9524
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,843 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    these speeches are getting very much the same, he needs new material


  • #9525
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Jaysus, I think he see's Cuomo as a competitor to the throne even though he isn't running against him.


  • #9526
    MD1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    trump is playing old clips of cuomo praising him. has the lights turned off too like it is a movie clip

    this during a pandemic. bizzare


  • #9527
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,395 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Hego Damask wrote: »
    https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-04-19/daily-coronavirus-deaths-in-spain-fall-to-410-the-lowest-figure-seen-in-a-month.html



    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

    Spain 198,674 +4,258 21,238 +1,195 (new deaths)

    I understand El Pais are using a different point for the days, but according to worldometer today has been the worst day since the whole thing started for Spain.
    I expect we will see a headline tomorrow in El Pais when they catch up

    World meters has changed its numbers of deaths for spain


  • #9528
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    trumps video intern getting fired


  • #9529
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,331 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Likely burnt itself out - people weren't flying around the world at the time
    1lccxa.jpg

    This is Yersinia pestis, AKA plague.

    B2200768-Yersinia_pestis_plague_bacteria.jpg

    It killed between 100 and 200 million people and reduced the population by a third when the Black Death came rolling through and changed the course of human history(mostly for the better actually).

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #9530
    Lucy8080
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Lucy8080


    MD1990 wrote: »
    trump is playing old clips of cuomo praising him. has the lights turned off too like it is a movie clip

    this during a pandemic. bizzare

    I think Trump said that Cuomo clip was from this morning . I don't know either way. Is it an old clip?


  • #9531
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Mexico back in the circle of trust it seems.


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  • #9532
    kyote00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭kyote00


    King of ventilators me hole

    https://arstechnica.com/cars/2020/04/general-motors-first-ventilators-are-ready-for-delivery/


  • #9533
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,321 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lucy8080 wrote: »
    I think Trump said that Cuomo clip was from this morning . I don't know either way. Is it an old clip?

    Its from today I believe.


  • #9534
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    We are the king of ventilators.... christ
    That's like Lord of the Flies


  • #9535
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,770 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    froog wrote: »
    trump time!

    128987301340432670.jpg


    At least Mel's made a few good films.


  • #9536
    kyote00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭kyote00


    But he won;t show DiBlazio clip...
    Jake1 wrote: »
    Its from today I believe.


  • #9537
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,811 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    https://twitter.com/MysterySolvent/status/1252005704719831045


  • #9538
    Ardent
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,395 ✭✭✭Ardent


    893bet wrote: »
    There is no vaccine for mers or SARS as it’s not required (I.e not financially viable).

    There will be one for CV19.

    Necessity is the mother of invention. I hope you're right.


  • #9539
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    growleaves wrote: »
    It would be unusual for a respiratory disease to fail to give you immunity.

    I'm not saying it can't happen but we're back to worst-case-scenario speculations.

    The situation is unknown - therefore its possible that the worst and least likely scenario could play out. That is the terms in which we are discussing this.

    You immune to the common cold then?


  • #9540
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,991 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    s1ippy wrote: »
    That's like Lord of the Flies

    OT

    But that is a great book.
    Was our novel in Leaving Cert English back in 1990.

    Love the old B&W television version too.

    (poor Piggy)


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  • #9541
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    Ardent wrote: »
    Necessity is the mother of invention. I hope you're right.

    Can you imagine the amount of money, manpower and resources being thrown at this? I'd say it could be the largest global effort since WWII. This could be a turning point for humanity, we could see an increase in the quality of healthcare, an increase in investment in virology and combatting the next threat.

    Hopefully all the petty nationalistic squabbling is left by the wayside and international cooperation becomes the norm. I've faith in the experts and professionals they're fantastic dedicated people.


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