The UK response to Covid-19 [MOD WARNING 1ST POST]

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Yes, it doesn't add up. Northern Ireland reported just 1 additional death today.

So weird and doubt we will have an answer on why their regional figures don't tally up to the national figures.

So the strategy of using Johnson's trip to the hospital as an excuse for his incompetence,

https://twitter.com/DmitryOpines/status/1251907727531671552?s=20

So because he was in hospital with the disease, which we cannot figure out yet why certain people are worse affected than others, it shows how much he put his heart into fighting the disease. So can we assume Hancock hasn't been fighting as hard as Johnson because he was able to recover at home? What absolute rubbish, and please tell me why I am wrong in saying this.

As for the press conference today, here is a 2 minute clip and I challenge anyone not to lose the will to just switch it off before the end. There are interesting parts to it though,

https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1251911232807895040?s=20

I would hate to consider what a failure in here eyes would look like and would like to know how the UK is trending with the worst countries on deaths when they have been so successful and were aware of the dangers from the start. Let us not forget the deaths we are seeing are only for those in hospital and not in residential settings, those will come later.

So again, Rob and theological and anyone else, please tell me where I am wrong to highlight what is being said here and what in my post is wrong and shows what anti-UK rubbish I am spouting.

Jenny Harries dont forget is the same medical expert who was telling the government there was no problem going ahead with Cheltenham and other big outdoor sporting events as the virus didnt effectively transmit outdoors. I also recall seeing a clip in which she talks Rory Stewart down who was arguing for closing schools. Some brass neck, safe seat for her somewhere at next election time i predict.

Responding to criticism of the UK's lack of testing, Dr Jenny Harries says the focus is currently on managing the condition of people who are sick.
On comparisons with Germany - which has far greater testing and far fewer deaths - she says it is "very important that we learn from other countries" but stresses that the UK and Germany are "still at different phases".

Kind of comical considering the UK are actually chronologically behind Germany in this.

Harry Palmr wrote: »

from guardian

Of the 482 new deaths announced today:

- 118 occurred on 18 April

- 243 occurred on 17 April

- 62 occurred on 16 April

obviously weekend tally caveats apply.

Is there any sign that the UK are re-calculating deaths based on date of death rather than date of reporting like we've started to do? I know that A Dub has posted some Scottish stats showing ONS calculations over the last while. I just haven't seen a total UK or even, just a re-calculated NI figure.

RobMc59 wrote: »

Nothing wrong with highlighting things.Although you and a few other posters are only interested in posting negative comments ,any little bit of positive news is completely ignored-thats not a balanced view imo.

There isn't anything positive to post, do you watch the UK news or read their papers?
Even the ppe from Turkey hasn't arrived today.

RobMc59 wrote: »

I'm not playing the victim but there are thousands dying here in the UK and people like you seem to get some kind of perverse pleasure 'telling us how bad Johnson and co are'.
I don't think him or his kind will ever see your posts,your sneering comments amount to nothing more than trolling.

if we had 20 or 30 thousand irish dead from the coronavirus I dont think I'd be checking in to see what the English or Scottish were thinking of Ireland

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

The interesting thing about the Times writing stuff we all already knew is that this wasn't deemed notable news until The Times, owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp, decides it's news.

I've little doubt BBC News will discuss The Times' expose on the Clown Prince's handling of the COVID-19 crisis thus amplifying the corporate media's take following its lead rather than doing it themselves like a Public Service broadcaster should. What the BBC should be reporting is the utter information-distortion the corporate media engages in rather than become complicit in the ritual sacrificing of one of its proteges.

When politicians like Leo, Angela Merkel or the New York governor are interviewed you can see the worry and concern in their faces, but with others like Trump, Gove or Priti Patel it's different, I cant put my finger on it?

RobMc59 wrote: »

Nothing wrong with highlighting things.Although you and a few other posters are only interested in posting negative comments ,any little bit of positive news is completely ignored-thats not a balanced view imo.

So we should point out that deaths has gone down to 596 per day yesterday, before we point out the negatives? Is that what you would like? We should be like the BBC and countenance the experts views we find online highlighting the failures of the UK response so far,

Impossible for UK to meet Covid-19 testing targets, scientists say

The government’s target of carrying out 100,000 Covid-19 tests each day by the end of the month has come under criticism from senior scientists, who say it will be impossible to reach.

Experts told the Guardian that a “macho” focus on headline-grabbing figures had been pursued at the expense of rigorous science.

By stating, guys let's remember that only 596 people died in hospitals yesterday.

Getting back to the response of the UK and their actions, let's look at the advice of the government just before they stopped these events from taking place.

https://twitter.com/RobHarris/status/1251941286984196099?s=20

We are basically back to the science telling them it was okay to let these events happen. But why did Spain stop Atletico Madrid from playing in their stadium but the UK thought it was okay? Why the 2 different approaches? Are we saying Spain didn't follow scientific advice until the UK decided to do the same? There are still so many questions and so few answers.

declanflynn wrote: »

When politicians like Leo, Angela Merkel or the New York governor are interviewed you can see the worry and concern in their faces, but with others like Trump, Gove or Priti Patel it's different, I cant put my finger on it?

Called empathy.

Aegir wrote: »

They issued that several times, showing out of the numbers published, how many died on what dates.

I recall seeing something alright. But it was fairly untrustworthy. And it was without regularity for me to consider it further.

Hopefully they have been continuing this.

IIRC it resulted in people on here accusing them of cooking the books.

I know... imagine what might lead us to that interpretation?

Enzokk wrote: »

Anybody here can offer clarity on the UK death figures? Sky has it that 596 people have died according to the government. Their breakdown for the regions are as follows,

England - 482
Wales - 41
Scotland - 10


What the heck is happening with their figures? They aren't telling us that 63 people died in NI in one day, so why are the figures not collating to their breakdowns? Or have we just seen a massive spike in deaths in a country smaller than ours and only in hospital settings?

Yeah nothing to see here Aegir? Yeah?

Any sign of the care homes and at home deaths being included in the daily reports perhaps? All sounds a bit "cooked" to me.

RobMc59 wrote: »

I'm not playing the victim but there are thousands dying here in the UK and people like you seem to get some kind of perverse pleasure 'telling us how bad Johnson and co are'.
I don't think him or his kind will ever see your posts,your sneering comments amount to nothing more than trolling.

Jesus how many times does it take to get this into your skull, I have family and friends in the UK, like many many others in this thread and throughout the country, im concerned for their well being and everyone else in the UK for that matter, history aside they are our neighbors and to not be concerned about them would show anyone to be utterly contemptible at a human level imo.


Get off your high horse and stop being so rudely arrogant and making ignorant assumptions about other peoples motives or circumstances.