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Farming Chitchat 10/10- Now VIRUS-FREE!

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  • #5432
    carrollsno1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    kollegeknight wrote: »
    How long after castrating bullocks can they mix with heifers?

    We never seperated them when they were strong after using a Burdizzo but we moved to the ring in the last few years i would highly reccomend that for youre own safety and just the handiness of it.

    Better living everyone



  • #5433
    kollegeknight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,387 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    carrollsno1 wrote: »
    We never seperated them when they were strong after using a Burdizzo but we moved to the ring in the last few years i would highly reccomend that for youre own safety and just the handiness of it.

    Thanks very much,

    Well while tb testing, I got the vet to do them- he used the burdizzo this time. He normally cut them. I usually have them sold before needing to castrate but they can graze for a while more.


  • #5434
    carrollsno1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    kollegeknight wrote: »
    Thanks very much,

    Well while tb testing, I got the vet to do them- he used the burdizzo this time. He normally cut them. I usually have them sold before needing to castrate but they can graze for a while more.

    If there fairly strong keep a watch for pmeumonia on them as the stress can bring it on in them.

    Better living everyone



  • #5435
    orm0nd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,316 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    kollegeknight wrote: »
    How long after castrating bullocks can they mix with heifers?

    a vet told me he has known in very rare cases of they getting heifers incalf at up to 3 weeks after squeezing


  • #5436
    farawaygrass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,052 ✭✭✭farawaygrass


    A basic question-would ye run suckler cows and their calves with yearling bullocks and heifers? Cows won’t be going to the bull and it would be handier to only have the one grazing group? Or would cows bulking drive the yearlings mad causing loss of thrive?


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  • #5437
    ZETOR_IS_BETTER
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 574 ✭✭✭ZETOR_IS_BETTER


    farawaygrass wrote: »
    A basic question-would ye run suckler cows and their calves with yearling bullocks and heifers? Cows won’t be going to the bull and it would be handier to only have the one grazing group? Or would cows bulking drive the yearlings mad causing loss of thrive?
    I do this every year with no issues.


  • #5438
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,839 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    I have some to castrate. Will have to get it done surgically as organic. The american cowboys call them prairie oysters, not to be confused with the drink cocktail.
    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=prairie%20oyster

    My vet and I agree that banding is actually is the least discomforting on the animal, but the rules.


  • #5439
    Base price
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,654 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Water John wrote: »
    I have some to castrate. Will have to get it done surgically as organic. The american cowboys call them prairie oysters, not to be confused with the drink cocktail.
    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=prairie%20oyster

    My vet and I agree that banding is actually is the least discomforting on the animal, but the rules.
    Actually banding is considered to have the most prolonged period of pain. We considered it here but we decided against it on those grounds.

    https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/the-pros-and-cons-of-the-different-castration-methods-for-bulls/


  • #5440
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,839 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Did it two years and quite happy with it.


  • #5441
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,707 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    I was in tesco tonight. Massive queue to get in. Noticeably alot of keelings products left on the shelves


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  • #5442
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,839 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Who the feck do they think, picks their satsumas in Spain? Keelings and the Dept that issued permits didn't get it quite right but I don't see a rush of applications.


  • #5443
    _Brian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,978 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    whelan2 wrote: »
    I was in tesco tonight. Massive queue to get in. Noticeably alot of keelings products left on the shelves

    That’s just terrible.

    The general public really have no clue. They’d rather the fruit rot and a company go bankrupt. Amd then give out about lazy farmers producing nothing and everything needing to be imported.

    If we paid the wager Irish people wanted to do fruit picking work a punnet of strawberries would be about €15 !


  • #5444
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,839 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Not really, probably a few cent per punnet.


  • #5445
    Base price
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    _Brian wrote: »
    That’s just terrible.

    The general public really have no clue. They’d rather the fruit rot and a company go bankrupt. Amd then give out about lazy farmers producing nothing and everything needing to be imported.

    If we paid the wager Irish people wanted to do fruit picking work a punnet of strawberries would be about €15 !
    Keelings are my neighbours (at home) and over the years they have found it nearly impossible to get local people to work for them picking fruit. There was a time when people living in Swords and the surrounding areas would work during the Summer months picking soft fruit, veg and apples for them and other producers. That day is long gone.

    I heard on the radio yesterday that Latvian and Polish people used to come to work for the Summer in Ireland but now that their economies have flourished they now get Bulgarian and Romanian workers in to pick their soft fruit and veg.


  • #5446
    carrollsno1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    Just pricing a fencing job for at home at the minute i came back at €0.73/m before labour and post driver hire with rough figures just wondering does it sound anyway right to ye guys?
    Thanks in advance, workings shown in the photo.

    Edit: price per post could be wrong as i couldnt find out how much stakes per pallet but from a rough count of the picture on the glanbia website it looks to be 225 stakes/pallet
    510172.jpg

    Better living everyone



  • #5447
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Never had much success with gripples, I prefer straining with a ratchet type, that way if a wire is loose a vice grip or even a Leatherman can be used to re-tighten it in future.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #5448
    Mortelaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Most of the Sunday newspapers have it that FF and FG have now agreed to hold a referendum ASAP to take away your property rights capping the value of your land at 25% above current market value


  • #5449
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,707 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Last day of the kids Easter holidays.


  • #5450
    longgonesilver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭longgonesilver


    Are they looking forward to going back?


  • #5451
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,707 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    longgonesilver wrote: »
    Are they looking forward to going back?

    Tbh youngest lad just wants to get back to his friends, back to some sort of normality.


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  • #5452
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,299 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Tbh youngest lad just wants to get back to his friends, back to some sort of normality.

    Is there talk of school reopening 1 day a week


  • #5453
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,707 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    Is there talk of school reopening 1 day a week
    Ye I dont know how that will work.


  • #5454
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    Most of the Sunday newspapers have it that FF and FG have now agreed to hold a referendum ASAP to take away your property rights capping the value of your land at 25% above current market value

    Current market value?

    And if land prices rise it the future, is there going to be a change in market value?

    And who decides what the market value is if the market isn't allowed to decide the market value?

    Lawyers are going to have a few pension plans paid for out of this, I reckon:(


  • #5455
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,839 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    I presume they are referring to, farming market value. That land wouldn't multiply in value by being rezoned.


  • #5456
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Water John wrote: »
    I presume they are referring to, farming market value. That land wouldn't multiply in value by being rezoned.

    You know yourself, John, market values of farmland rises and falls depending on demand and projected prices of produce. If meat, crops and milk were to rise or fall in value in the future, the value of the land they are produced on will rise and fall to reflect that.

    If that land is bordering a growing urban area and the farmer wants to sell and buy elsewhere, are his choices going to be limited by the cap they have placed on current values?

    If the Government decides to build a new motorway or a new town, this going to limit their exposure to proper compensation to affected farmers for forced purchases, isn't it?


  • #5457
    Mortelaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »
    Current market value?

    And if land prices rise it the future, is there going to be a change in market value?

    And who decides what the market value is if the market isn't allowed to decide the market value?

    Lawyers are going to have a few pension plans paid for out of this, I reckon:(

    Tied to the agricultural value of the area at the time of the sale
    I mean is it a toss of a coin then if 2 or 3 farmers bid to the cap?
    The referendum would be to make that carry on constitutional
    But surely EU competition laws also come into play
    A lawyer's bonanza


  • #5458
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,357 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    This is what the Greens meant by negotiations haven't finished yet but we're nearly there.

    Mortelaro got there with the question I was going to ask about what happens when a few farmers or business people bid to the cap.
    Will the farmer or business person be prioritised or will it be adjoining land owners prioritised.
    Ha! ..we've become France..


  • #5459
    Dinzee Conlee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    What is the reason for the 25% - is it only in the event of a compulsory purchase?

    If so, what’s the idea behind it?

    Is there a lot of farmland bought by CPO at present?
    I thought the greens were against any new motorways, and were all about public transport, so not sure where CPOs come into play there?


  • #5460
    Mortelaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Greens would be delighted as no farmer would sell a site for 5 or 10k
    Apart from sons or daughters it will end ribbon development


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  • #5461
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,839 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Indeed, may be chasing the wrong issue. It seems there's plenty land zoned and controlled by the LA and private developers to solve the housing issue.
    We know a semi D or terrace house can be built for €210K, excl site and services.

    IWT there would also have to be a differentiation between CPO for infrastructure and housing. One is a forced sale. But maybe their considering CPO for housing?
    A better Minister for Housing might be a simpler option. Murphy's poor.


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