Relaxation of restrictions

Ministers are braced for the economy to slump by more than 14 percent in the next three months sparking concerns that tens of thousands of Britons may die prematurely from the worst recession in history.

There are growing fears in Whitehall that the impact of rapidly rising unemployment and deteriorating mental health from the lockdown may ultimately prove more lethal to the health of the country than the coronavirus.

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emulsifier wrote: »

Just a thought here,

Is it possible for schools to move learning to online platforms and have teachers support kids with questions that they have? One day a week might be slow and also comes increased risk of exposure. Schools are vital to the economy yes, but there seems to be a way around it that can keep it going without increasing the risk of exposure which is technology

However, the more difficult issues are those aspects of the economy that need human to human connection but are not so essential.

What good is online to parents of young children who need to go to work. They need childcare ie creches and primary schools to reopen.

Ellsbells1 wrote: »

My kids teachers both have kids themselves so who will mind their kids for them and both their partners are essential workers?

It becomes the same issue today as two essential workers and how they manage their childcare arrangements. A solution will need to be found that is workable.

Maybe the school can facilitate once of the SNA rooms for children of teachers whose partner is also an essential worker ? I imagine the numbers are not that high across the entire country

khalessi wrote: »

Thank you for saying that, especially when there are other commenting that we dont want to come back. It makes me sad that people feel it is ok to bully teachers. I want to teach, I have nearly died twice in last few years and if safe for all I will teach. I was a nurse for 20 years and am well aware for prevention of cross infection and am really hoping there is a plan.

No one is “bullying” teachers. I have nothing but respect for them and their profession. All people are doing here is teasing out scenarios whereby some form of normality could return.
We can’t afford to pay people to do nothing (I fully appreciate some teachers are working well on Zoom and other communication platforms) for massive lengths of time and have to tease out solutions. If other European nations are doing limited reopening then we must look at following suit

I have 4 children aged 6 and under.
We take 6 buses a day to get the cildren of age, to and from school. It is not safe for me to take my children to school right now. And I will not be. I work hard at home with my children, the 6 year old teacher knows and tells me she knows how much we do at home with him. My children will not be the guiney pigs in this experiment. What use is their education when they are dead. Or in 10 years time will they be glad I brought the to school and ended up dying and leaving them without a parent. My children are not going to school until it is safe for them to do so. I am hopeful it will be September, it's not easy having them home. But I walked into my house with them after I collected them from school when it closed, and I nor they have or will leave this house until it is safe(r) to do so. There will always be risks I am not stupid, but I know the life that is living without a Mother. I know how it feels and I will not take an unecessary risk and have my children, my sons and Daughter, live the life I have had to. My children will not be in them statistics, they are not guiney pigs

pjohnson wrote: »

They just want someone else to raise their child. You are a free babysitting service to them and as usual they dont give a rats ass about you or anyone else.

With all due respect, if you think someone educating a child for 5 hours 40 minutes a day for 183 days a year constitutes raising a child, I think you are in a different world.

To save you the math, a child spends 11.8% of a year in a school environment.

Also, a school opening 1 day a week as proposed is hardly a free baby sitting service.

road_high wrote: »

No one is “bullying” teachers. I have nothing but respect for them and their profession. All people are doing here is teasing out scenarios whereby some form of normality could return.
We can’t afford to pay people to do nothing (I fully appreciate some teachers are working well on Zoom and other communication platforms) for massive lengths of time and have to tease out solutions. If other European nations are doing limited reopening then we must look at following suit

Sorry, but there have been numerous threads on boards, one recently 50 plus pages slagging off teachers, and here the Hearty80 states teachers dont want to go back to work, and then quotes me and says oh surprise a teacher who doesnt want to work, despite me mentioning in said quote I will work with PPE as I have some.

Lets look at other nations. Denmark coopted other buildings for education use, has split clsses to about 6 kids, hand washing 2 hourly etc. DO you see it being done here. All I am saying is I hope so, a safe environment for everyone

Hearty80 wrote: »

Absolutely location by location sounds like a great idea, hopefully they will make the right decision and have some common sense.

It is but they won't do it, can't have some of the country going back to normal and people from epicenters being discriminated against. Dublin is the big problem and we should treat it differently, it's the last place restrictions should be removed from.

I don't know how your going to get kids back, my 5yr old is here refusing to go for a walk up the mountain because the virus is outside in the air. All air is bad now according to him.

wrestlemaniac wrote: »

So you view primary school as fundamentally childcare? What is your idea of how you propose schools opening to work?

Schools are a place of learning but it cannot be denied that many parents work while the children are in school .This is the world over and always has been .I worked night shifts all my working life and worked it around when the kids were in school to get some sleep . The school time table is vital for many working parents and always wil be

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Schools are a place of learning but it cannot be denied that many parents work while the children are in school .This is the world over and always has been .I worked night shifts all my working life and worked it around when the kids were in school to get some sleep . The school time table is vital for many working parents and always wil be

Someone has to work to raise the taxes to pay teachers salaries. Everything has a symbiotic relationship and schools are part of the economy. It’s very hard to isolate elements of it

khalessi wrote: »

How will that help? Most children of teachers dont go to the school their parents teach in and if they do they are already accommodated in school numbers

I would have to disagree on the most children dont go to the schools their parents teach in. In our school, all the teachers children go to the school as its impossible for school drop offs otherwise. Same with my sisters kids (she is a teacher) and all of her friends.

Mic 1972 wrote: »

You are absolutely right, some people are selfish here but in reality restrictions can't be lifted in the middle of the pandemic unless safety measures are put in place

All I am asking is for a safe environment for the children for me, my colleagues and my children in their school. I was asked about safety for bus drivers and cashiers, they are entitled to safety like everyone in a pandemic and got spit screens. Everyone should be entitled to safety in a pandemic.

There are people here going on about crowded buses on way to work and no one slagging them off for their concerns, my concerns are that the government will come up with a half assed plan to satify public, rather then something safe for everyone.

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Schools are a place of learning but it cannot be denied that many parents work while the children are in school .This is the world over and always has been .I worked night shifts all my working life and worked it around when the kids were in school to get some sleep . The school time table is vital for many working parents and always wil be

Someone has to work to raise the taxes to pay teachers salaries. Everything has a symbiotic relationship and schools are part of the economy. It’s very hard to isolate elements of it

Stateofyou wrote: »

I am also surprised by the lack of engagement from my kids teacher. I am trying to be understanding, and some are parents themselves and so are dealing with a lot on their plate too. But I did expect some level of communication from the teacher, maybe a maths lesson video/tutorial, a "hello" message, an email setup with the parents perhaps, an offer to help any who want some additional support if they're struggling... etc. There's been radio silence ever since school let out. Only hear from the principle, who even sent the voluntary homework plan out, it wasn't the teacher.

All I wanted was the "hello" session !! And say keep up the good work

Yes, some teachers are parents too, but some parents also work full time and have to juggle responsibilities. It comes with being paid while this goes on - there is a level of expectation that if you are getting paid (while so many are not), there is a reasonable effort put it.

Despite what teachers think, most parents are not unreasonable. The problem tends to be the ones they deal with most are the ones who are.