Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

Deleted User wrote: »

It would help yourself an awful lot if you attempted to read and understand the obviously vast amount of covid 19 information you are accessing before pronouncing that the sky is falling

jackboy wrote: »

If infection and recovery does not give a significant level of immunity does this imply that an effective vaccine in not possible?

Gynoid wrote: »

A looong time ago I lived in a hippie squat in Europe and our motto was "What is normal?" Silly, you might say. Youthful freaks talking shyte. But, you know, what IS normal? Maybe one so called normal is finished? Maybe we ain't going back to "normality"?
Maybe we have to live now with a virus that shortens life spans and is a threat to those many in less than perfect health? Maybe that is the new normal? Are we in denial?

How normal is it anyway, the way a modern human lives? On some hamster wheel working all the long hours between traffic jams so the corporations can make bazillions and exploit the developed world with bullsh1t jobs and enslave the developing world, so that during the time off the hamster wheel we can try to squeeze in a human life and be drip fed the intoxication of consuming endlessly and for many endless porn and cheap sensorial distractions.
Shrugs. What is this "normal" to which we simply gotta return?

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

If any of those Keelings workers test positive for covid, there should be more serious protests outside that factory!

Nonoperational wrote: »

Checked out of here for a while, refreshing not to be reading constant negativity and people getting visibly excited posting 'bad' news.

Regarding the WHO comments, they have been widely misreported by the Irish and UK media.

What they said is that there is no evidence that serological antibody tests will tell us if people have immunity. They also never said that we won't have immunity. At this stage nobody is in a position to say this one way or the other.

The serological tests are based on the detection of antibodies in the blood. 2 antibodies are used, IgM and IgG. IgM is produced first then IgG which stays in the body for a varying amount of time. There antibodies neutralise the virus when we come into contact with it. What the WHO said is that we don't know for sure that 1) everyone will produce IgG, and 2) that those with IgG seropositivity will be 'immune'.

This goes back to what immunity actually is. It is very possible, and in my opinion very likely, that those that produce IgG will not get a significant COVID-19 infection. They could however get a mild illness and pass it on. This will also very much likely depend on viral load exposed to. If one gets a low viral load exposure and has IgG produced its unlikely they'll get unwell. If one has tiny levels of IgG and they get a large prolonged viral load they may develop severe infection.

This is just my opinion, as was the WHO statement. But if you look at the history of humanity, we simply do not usually continue to get acute infections with the same agents over and over.

Please take all these reports with a pinch of salt, for every report saying you may not get immunity there are reports saying you most likely will.