Dr Hulsey WTC7 findings for people who not aware of this new study.

King Mob · 02-04-2020 5:43pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Watch the video and show me Where I misquoted them.

We're not saying you misquoted them. We're saying you don't understand their statement and you are misinterpreting what they said.

Do you know what the word "misinterpreting" means?

Cheerful Spring2 · 02-04-2020 5:44pm

King Mob wrote: »

See, I asked you to do one thing and you didn't and now you're running off on tangents to deflect.

Wrong.

So what is the correct percentage? Or did the building fall at 100% free fall?

Meaningless sentence.

Again, you are misinterpreting and ignoring things so you can keep repeating this point.

Wrong.

Fact you say this I know you have not watched the video and yet you still provide an opinion. You spend so much time on here 10 minutes of your time, watching it and listening will get you up to speed.

King Mob · 02-04-2020 5:47pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Fact you say this I know you have not watched the video and yet you still provide an opinion. You spend so much time on here 10 minutes of your time, watching it and listening will get you up to speed.

Lol, I have watched the video. It's not very good and it misinterprets the same things you do.

You are just deflecting and moving on to different points as predicted.

Dohnjoe · 02-04-2020 5:52pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Fact you say this I know you have not watched the video and yet you still provide an opinion. You spend so much time on here 10 minutes of your time, watching it and listening will get you up to speed.

Posters have been patient enough to explain this to you in plain English, but you refuse the explanation

Why should they keep having to re-explain the same thing to you?

That's not reasonable behavior

Timberrrrrrrr · 02-04-2020 8:54pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

I thought you said you were in the British army on another thread? Or is that a job you did later? It's one aspect of the work i did. It lot more complicated then you think. You have to cut steel into different shapes and angles and it's precision work and have a good steady hand for that. Most truthers have no clue how to read constructiion drawings, i have some knowledge about that.

You claiming welder not used when steel framed buildings are build?

I was, when I was 18. Welding steel for refrigerators and welding steel for high rise buildings are 2 totally different things and 2 totally different types of welding. A real welder would know this

Cheerful Spring2 · 11-04-2020 2:31pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

You are mainly referring to secret Nazi's correct, like actual descendants of German Nazi's who fled Germany after the war, who, according to you didn't kill 6 million Jews, those ones right?

It’s not thought in Westerns schools this info, the post-war Nazis backed the Islamic jihad against the west and jews for decades. I suspect there is Nazi sympathisers in the US government that wanted a holy war in the middle east with the Muslims and Jews slaughtering each other and therefore they allowed 9/11 to happen.

It is no conicidence the main group, the 9/11 pilots came to be known as the Hamburg Cell. Finance for this operation was traced to banks in the Middle East that were partily owned by neo Nazis and post war Nazis after the war.

Yes i believe there is a network of fascists who operate in the shadows and every now again they come out and expose themselves ( 9/11 and JFK are examples)

Dohnjoe · 11-04-2020 3:06pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

It’s not thought in Westerns schools this info, the post-war Nazis backed the Islamic jihad against the west and jews for decades. I suspect there is Nazi sympathisers in the US government that wanted a holy war in the middle east with the Muslims and Jews slaughtering each other and therefore they allowed 9/11 to happen.

It is no conicidence the main group, the 9/11 pilots came to be known as the Hamburg Cell. Finance for this operation was traced to banks in the Middle East that were partily owned by neo Nazis and post war Nazis after the war.

Yes i believe there is a network of fascists who operate in the shadows and every now again they come out and expose themselves ( 9/11 and JFK are examples)

Would you say these Nazi descendants want to use the pandemic to take power in the US?

Timberrrrrrrr · 11-04-2020 3:56pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

It’s not thought in Westerns schools this info, the post-war Nazis backed the Islamic jihad against the west and jews for decades. I suspect there is Nazi sympathisers in the US government that wanted a holy war in the middle east with the Muslims and Jews slaughtering each other and therefore they allowed 9/11 to happen.

It is no conicidence the main group, the 9/11 pilots came to be known as the Hamburg Cell. Finance for this operation was traced to banks in the Middle East that were partily owned by neo Nazis and post war Nazis after the war.

Yes i believe there is a network of fascists who operate in the shadows and every now again they come out and expose themselves ( 9/11 and JFK are examples)

Can you show what schools it is taught in?

Cheerful Spring2 · 11-04-2020 4:10pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Would you say these Nazi descendants want to use the pandemic to take power in the US?

Most of the characters associated and involved with the shadow government see the world differently. Overthrow of the current US government, it be replaced with a government that’s militaristic/corporate and be far right leaning. Are some of them descendents of Nazi war criminals? It’s difficult to identify after this long of a period of time after the war.

It is going to be difficult for the shadow government to takeover when the virus is not destroying the market yet. Plus, they are not getting their way with Trump in power. He's trying to get everyone to go back to work and use different viral medicines to fight the virus. The establishment telling you nothing can open till we get a Pharma vaccine! Trump right in a way you sink the global economy if you keep everything closed down. So in my mind there is a opposing deep state groups skirmishing behind the scenes.

Regards the Nazis after WW2
The post-war Nazis most of them are now deceased. Yet i have no doubt in my mind they created a criminal and economic international shadow network after the war and this continued on for decades. I believe this group was associated and helped with the 9/11 attacks. I personally believe 9/11 was an international operation financed by state actors (saudi Arabia and Pakistan) and neo nazis bankers. The rogue right-wing element inside the shadow/ US goverment just approved it and allowed it to happen.

Dohnjoe · 11-04-2020 4:14pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Most of the characters associated and involved with the shadow government see the world differently. Overthrow of the current US government, it be replaced with a government that’s militaristic/corporate and be far right leaning. Are some of them descendents of Nazi war criminals? It’s difficult to identify after this long of a period of time after the war.

It is going to be difficult for the shadow government to takeover when the virus is not destroying the market yet. Plus, they are not getting their way with Trump in power. He's trying to get everyone to go back to work and use different viral medicines to fight the virus. The establishment telling you nothing can open till we get a Pharma vaccine! Trump right in a way you sink the global economy if you keep everything closed down. So in my mind there is a opposing deep state groups skirmishing behind the scenes.

Regards the Nazis after WW2
The post-war Nazis most of them are now deceased. Yet i have no doubt in my mind they created a criminal and economic international shadow network after the war and this continued on for decades. I believe this group was associated and helped with the 9/11 attacks. I personally believe 9/11 was an international operation financed by state actors (saudi Arabia and Pakistan) and neo nazis bankers. The rogue right-wing element inside the shadow/ US goverment just approved it and allowed it to happen.

This shadow government, would you say any of them are Jews?

IAMAMORON · 11-04-2020 4:20pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Regards the Nazis after WW2
The post-war Nazis most of them are now deceased. Yet i have no doubt in my mind they created a criminal and economic international shadow network after the war and this continued on for decades. I believe this group was associated and helped with the 9/11 attacks. I personally believe 9/11 was an international operation financed by state actors (saudi Arabia and Pakistan) and neo nazis bankers. The rogue right-wing element inside the shadow/ US goverment just approved it and allowed it to happen.

Ah here?

From a beef ranch in Argentina?

Who would have thought? I can really see how they manged to meander the Suez crisis whilst keeping Mossad at bay. They have done remarkably well to get from a Belin bunker in 1945, across enemies lines to Hamburg to board a U-boat which sailed underwater to Montevideo and across River Plate to Buenes Aires.... I suppose once they had avoided Nuremburg they felt they may as well crack on?

Cheerful Spring2 · 11-04-2020 4:26pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

This shadow government, would you say any of them are Jews?

Depends on what their program to transform the world is. If their objective is to wipe out Muslims then Jews could be involved.

Personally I determine the 9/11 plane operation was to hit the west and start a war. Chiefly backed by Sectarian leaders/military leaders in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan and by neo- Nazis bankers and criminals.

The demolition of the buildings i have a harder time figuring out who performed that. I leave the door open some other rogue group hijacked that operation on 9/11 and used it for their own aims.

Cheerful Spring2 · 11-04-2020 4:33pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I thought it was right wing extremists looking to enlist African Americans into the army for slaughter in the Vietnamese Jungle? Seemingly they were increasingly disgruntled with the progress of the civil rights movement and were aware of the Kennedy's enamor for the African American community and other US minorities? Lyndon Johnson escalated US involvement in Vietnam within months of taking power, such was his quid pro quo?

Robert Kennedy, Jack Kennedy and Martin Luther King all taken down in the 60s. It clear as day this right wing shadow government heavily involved in all three of the murders.

IAMAMORON · 11-04-2020 4:38pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Personally I determine the 9/11 plane operation was to hit the west and start a war. Chiefly backed by Sectarian leaders/military leaders in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan and by neo- Nazis bankers and criminals.

1) Sectarian leaders - which ones and from where exactly?
2) military leaders in Saudi Arabia
3) Pakistan
4) Neo Nazi Bankers
5) Criminals

I am struggling with this particular spectrum of conspirators. You are being too broad, at least pick a side? That is some coalition listed above?

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

The demolition of the buildings i have a harder time figuring out who performed that. I leave the door open some other rogue group hijacked that operation on 9/11 and used it for their own aims.

Probably Mossad disguised as private electrical contractors. This is provable though via public records. Somebody somewhere procured a group of electricians to carry out fundamental developments of two sky scrapers in central New York in 2001. Just look up the accounts of the trade towers management company, that is tangible and traceable.

Coronavirus connection? ( sorry I don't want to sound like a bitch here )

Cheerful Spring2 · 11-04-2020 5:02pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

1) Sectarian leaders - which ones and from where exactly?
2) military leaders in Saudi Arabia
3) Pakistan
4) Neo Nazi Bankers
5) Criminals

I am struggling with this particular spectrum of conspirators. You are being too broad, at least pick a side? That is some coalition listed above?

Probably Mossad disguised as private electrical contractors. This is provable though via public records. Somebody somewhere procured a group of electricians to carry out fundamental developments of two sky scrapers in central New York in 2001. Just look up the accounts of the trade towers management company, that is tangible and traceable.

Coronavirus connection? ( sorry I don't want to sound like a bitch here )

I can’t because there needs to be an examination of the various conspirators and there a long complicated backstory. Just the tip of the iceberg.

Facts we know. The 9/11 families lawyers have got 11 names of people, many working for Saudi government. They helped and planned the operation with Al Qaeda. The most high profile one is Prince Bandar. During 9/11 he was the US/ Saudi ambassador. After 9/11 he came the head of Saudi Intelligence. We know money was being passed onto the 9/11 hijackers through a special account set up by his wife. There was bunch of Saudi spies then inside the US who then used this money to rent apartments, and pay for flying lessons for the hijackers before the attack. They had regular meetings.

We also know the second most powerful military ISI general in Pakistan wired Mohammed atta 100,000 dollars weeks before 9/11.

We also know money that got transferred was taking place in banks owned by neo- nazis who had long standing ties and connections to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. AL Qeada second in command Mohammed Ayman Zawahiri was a member of Muslim brotherhood in Egypt. The Nazis and radical muslim links are well known in the middle east.

All options are on the table for the demolitions on 9/11.

Right now the only connection is the right wing shadow government in place to remove the current government if the crisis got out of hand. I feel there is opposing deep state forces battling it to get economy open and others who want it to remain closed.

Dohnjoe · 11-04-2020 5:14pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

I can’t because there needs to be an examination of the various conspirators and there a long complicated backstory. Just the tip of the iceberg.

Facts we know. The 9/11 families lawyers have got 11 names of people, many working for Saudi government. They helped and planned the operation with Al Qaeda. The most high profile one is Prince Bandar. During 9/11 he was the US/ Saudi ambassador. After 9/11 he came the head of Saudi Intelligence. We know money was being passed onto the 9/11 hijackers through a special account set up by his wife. There was bunch of Saudi spies then inside the US who then used this money to rent apartments, and pay for flying lessons for the hijackers before the attack. They had regular meetings.

We also know the second most powerful military ISI general in Pakistan wired Mohammed atta 100,000 dollars weeks before 9/11.

We also know money that got transferred was taking place in banks owned by neo- nazis who had long standing ties and connections to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. AL Qeada second in command Mohammed Ayman Zawahiri was a member of Muslim brotherhood in Egypt. The Nazis and radical muslim links are well known in the middle east.

All options are on the table for the demolitions on 9/11.

Right now the only connection is the right wing shadow government in place to remove the current government if the crisis got out of hand. I feel there is opposing deep state forces battling it to get economy open and others who want it to remain closed.

Why do you keep bringing in your personal views of 911 in a thread on Coronavirus? We've been warned about that several times

We're on the shadow government made up of Nazi's using Coronavirus to take over the US here..

IAMAMORON · 11-04-2020 5:15pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

I can’t because there needs to be an examination of the various conspirators and there a long complicated backstory. Just the tip of the iceberg.

Facts we know. The 9/11 families lawyers have got 11 names of people, many working for Saudi government. They helped and planned the operation with Al Qaeda. The most high profile one is Prince Bandar. During 9/11 he was the US/ Saudi ambassador. After 9/11 he came the head of Saudi Intelligence. We know money was being passed onto the 9/11 hijackers through a special account set up by his wife. There was bunch of Saudi spies then inside the US who then used this money to rent apartments, and pay for flying lessons for the hijackers before the attack. They had regular meetings.

We also know the second most powerful military ISI general in Pakistan wired Mohammed atta 100,000 dollars weeks before 9/11.

We also know money that got transferred was taking place in banks owned by neo- nazis who had long standing ties and connections to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. AL Qeada second in command Mohammed Ayman Zawahiri was a member of Muslim brotherhood in Egypt. The Nazis and radical muslim links are well known in the middle east.

All options are on the table for the demolitions on 9/11.

Right now the only connection is the right wing shadow government in place to remove the current government if the crisis got out of hand. I feel there is opposing deep state forces battling it to get economy open and others who want it to remain closed.

You're throwing too many ducks in the air here, sorry. Conspiracies are organised and structured. They are obvious once you isolate one.

Your concept that a Royal Saudi Billionaire was in cahoots with a two bit Pakistani general whilst simultaneously funding Neo Nazi's liaising with liberal movements in northern Africa ( Egypt ) … is too far fetched and would not even get preliminary funding from a coked up Hollywood producer on a slow Saturday night in Malibu, sorry no sale.

You will be telling me that Prince Bandar is a humanoid reptile next? More believable in fairness, Corona virus connection also?

Cheerful Spring2 · 11-04-2020 5:28pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Why do you keep bringing in your personal views of 911 in a thread on Coronavirus? We've been warned about that several times

We're on the shadow government made up of Nazi's using Coronavirus to take over the US here..

They’re not personal views. Is is factual data that is confirmed, yet debunkers ignore and don’t care about it.
When major developments in history happen, and are not what they seem to be, i then question, is this new event a manufactured scare?

You missed the fact i brought up in this thread in the past, when one week after 9/11 America experienced an Anthrax biological attack. Of course the Muslims got blamed and letters were sent insisting the attack was done by jihadists. When actually, it turned out years later the weaponised anthrax came from Fort Detrick ( US army main bio security lab) it got leaked out.

What arose in Aug 2019? The CDC came in and closed down the Fort Dettrick facility. Just occurs after a mystery flu like illness reported by the media a month before?

Cheerful Spring2 · 11-04-2020 5:48pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

You're throwing too many ducks in the air here, sorry. Conspiracies are organised and structured. They are obvious once you isolate one.

Your concept that a Royal Saudi Billionaire was in cahoots with a two bit Pakistani general whilst simultaneously funding Neo Nazi's liaising with liberal movements in northern Africa ( Egypt ) … is too far fetched and would not even get preliminary funding from a coked up Hollywood producer on a slow Saturday night in Malibu, sorry no sale.

You will be telling me that Prince Bandar is a humanoid reptile next? More believable in fairness, Corona virus connection also?

Not really everything i say is factual verified info. Even Biden knows what happened and he felt uncomfortable having to tell the truth.

Listen to his response, shows how little they care about finding out what truly happened on 9/11. They are problem the politicians and this guy running for President now.

It is no coincidence Bin laden was living a few miles from the ISI miitary facility..

The Pakistan ISI was protecting him for a decade. While the US was claiming they had no clue where he was.

Dohnjoe · 11-04-2020 5:56pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

They’re not personal views. Is is factual data that is confirmed, yet debunkers ignore and don’t care about it.
When major developments in history happen, and are not what they seem to be, i then question, is this new event a manufactured scare?

You missed the fact i brought up in this thread in the past, when one week after 9/11 America experienced an Anthrax biological attack. Of course the Muslims got blamed and letters were sent insisting the attack was done by jihadists. When actually, it turned out years later the weaponised anthrax came from Fort Detrick ( US army main bio security lab) it got leaked out.

What arose in Aug 2019? The CDC came in and closed down the Fort Dettrick facility. Just occurs after a mystery flu like illness reported by the media a month before?

You believe secret Nazi's pulled off 911. And that they killed JFK. And now that they are part of a "shadow government" that is poised to take over the US using this Coronavirus pandemic..

Can you name any of them in this "shadow government"?

Conspiracy theorists seem to hate: Bill Gates, Soros, Biden, Clinton, most Democrats, any Rothschilds, any Rockefellers, prominent Jews, everyone in the CIA

Anyone in that list?

Cheerful Spring2 · 11-04-2020 6:06pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

You believe secret Nazi's pulled off 911. And that they killed JFK. And now that they are part of a "shadow government" that is poised to take over the US using this Coronavirus pandemic..

Can you name any of them in this "shadow government"?

Conspiracy theorists seem to hate: Bill Gates, Soros, Biden, Clinton, most Democrats, any Rothschilds, any Rockefellers, prominent Jews, everyone in the CIA

Anyone in that list?

Why now is the official media channels now writing articles about the continuity of government? Stuff of this nature only released when higher up wants it out and wants the public to see it.

If it doesn’t exist why would the media be asserting the navy general would take over the US government and be the new head? It not news from conspiracy sites, it's info from mainstream! You just prefer to believe there is no plans for a takeover and you are happy to live in that bubble.

Dohnjoe · 11-04-2020 6:11pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Why now is the official media channels now writing articles about the continuity of government? Stuff of this nature only released when higher up wants it out and wants the public to see it.

If it doesn’t exist why would the media be asserting the navy general would take over the US government and be the new head? It not news from conspiracy sites, it's info from mainstream! You just prefer to believe there is no plans for a takeover and you are happy to live in that bubble.

Can you name any of these secret Nazi's you are referring to? or members of this "shadow government"?

Cheerful Spring2 · 11-04-2020 6:13pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Can you name any of these secret Nazi's you are referring to? or members of this "shadow government"?

I posted the article from Newsweek.

Read it. A military takeover and replacing of the current government.

Air Force Gen. Terrence J. O'Shaughnessy would be new head of government, his already been given the position in the plans.

Cheerful Spring2 · 17-04-2020 10:45pm

SEVEN Official Teaser (2020) | A Documentary on WTC Building 7

Looks good.

Timberrrrrrrr · 18-04-2020 12:00am

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

SEVEN Official Teaser (2020) | A Documentary on WTC Building 7

Looks good.

Ad biggie said

Mo money Mo problems.

Cheerful Spring2 · 18-04-2020 12:34am

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Ad biggie said

Mo money Mo problems.

The criminal actions of the US government is the problem. Hiding the true facts from the world, the Official media silent.

Same bull**** occurred with the JFK files.
Months after President Donald Trump promised to open FBI files to help families of the 9/11 victims in a civil lawsuit against the Saudi government, the Justice Department has doubled down on its claim that the information is a state secret.

In a series of filings just before a midnight court deadline on Monday, the attorney general, William Barr; the acting director of national intelligence, Richard Grenell; and other senior officials insisted to a federal judge in the civil case that further disclosures about Saudi connections to the 9/11 plot would imperil national security.

But the administration insisted in court filings that even its justification for that secrecy needed to remain secret. Four statements to the court by FBI and Justice Department officials were filed under seal so they could not be seen by the public. An additional five, including one from the CIA, were shared only with the judge and cannot be read even by the plaintiffs’ lawyers.

https://www.propublica.org/article/attorney-general-barr-refuses-to-release-9-11-documents-to-families-of-the-victims

King Mob · 18-04-2020 4:48am

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

SEVEN Official Teaser (2020) | A Documentary on WTC Building 7

Looks good.

Why are they making a documentary about their fraudulent study?

Why do you think it looks good when you've rejected the central point of the documentary and believe that Hulsey's study is a fraud?

Cheerful Spring2 · 18-04-2020 1:09pm

King Mob wrote: »

Why are they making a documentary about their fraudulent study?

Why do you think it looks good when you've rejected the central point of the documentary and believe that Hulsey's study is a fraud?

The Seismic charts you can see there two distinct detonations occurred inside the building before the full building came down.
Lee R Hulsey position is the the Penthouse came down, when some floors underneath the roofline collapsed, and then the central middle core, removed, and full collapse ensues.

You twist my words for an agenda. I believe Hulsey correct about the building collapsing due to controlled demolition.

What i not sure of is what caused those upper floors to collapse underneath the Penthouse. Was there a delay in setting off some of the controlled demolitions and was there two parts to the set up. Was the eastside support columns below rigged with a different timer to go off? Or it just like Hulsey said a collapse occurred up top (explosion or natural collapse?)

King Mob · 18-04-2020 1:24pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

You twist my words for an agenda. I believe Hulsey correct about the building collapsing due to controlled demolition.

But you believe his models and simulations are wrong.
That's the same reason you reject the NIST report.

Also we have established that you have determined that his models are wrong despite having no experience or training or ability. Thus we have to conclude that his models are obviously wrong.
A trained architect like him would also see it's obviously wrong. But he published it anyway, so therefore he must have done so fraudulently.

Yet despite this, you still support his fraudulent claims even though you know and agree he's a fraud.
That's very strange.

Cheerful Spring2 · 18-04-2020 1:41pm

King Mob wrote: »

But you believe his models and simulations are wrong.
That's the same reason you reject the NIST report.

Also we have established that you have determined that his models are wrong despite having no experience or training or ability. Thus we have to conclude that his models are obviously wrong.
A trained architect like him would also see it's obviously wrong. But he published it anyway, so therefore he must have done so fraudulently.

Yet despite this, you still support his fraudulent claims even though you know and agree he's a fraud.
That's very strange.

Metabunk debunk of the Hulsey final paper is flawed. I’ll explain why.
Controlled demolition is not a natural collapse of different construction elements inside the building. There’s no buckling, twisting, variation, or crushing of columns caused by heat from fire.
When you believe here, the columns removed by controlled demolition, then there no need to show a “dynamic response” with the elements.

There’s a multitude of reasons to why that is., the main reason- the roadmap to elimination of the columns different! Mick West fails to understand that or
not coped on to yet!

For Mick West to claim ‘resistance” ignored by Hulsey again false. The controlled demolition removed that support resistance underneath!
Sap2000 FEA program can not run a sim showing the physics of a controlled demolition inside the building! What Hulsey can do is remove the columns one by one by university accepted method DSR (FEA) and see how the FEA computer building reacts to the removal of columns naturally!
Debunkers ( you being one Kingmob) still restrained by the thinking the collapse caused by fire.

Another thing Mick lies about.
Hulsey did not overlook the NIST explanation for the collapse, he reviewed it and found it can not have taken place. By the way, (debunkers ignore this flaw) Nordenson Investigation also concluded the girder (A2001) would be trapped by the sideplate at column 79. There strong evidence there the truthers have a point that NIST step-by-step collapse on the eastside at column 79 is not correct.

King Mob · 18-04-2020 1:49pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Metabunk debunk of the Hulsey final paper is flawed. I’ll explain why.

But I'm not talking about Metabunk or Mick West. Your obsession with him is very weird. Especially since you've never even talked to the guy.

You have said that Hulsey's models aren't accurate and have mistakes.
Therefore his paper is a fraud.

Cheerful Spring2 · 18-04-2020 1:52pm

King Mob wrote: »

But I'm not talking about Metabunk or Mick West. Your obsession with him is very weird. Especially since you've never even talked to the guy.

You have said that Hulsey's models aren't accurate and have mistakes.
Therefore his paper is a fraud.

It not a weird obsession. You and others posted materials from that site to debunk the Hulsey study.

Laughable you support that clown.

King Mob · 18-04-2020 1:57pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

It not a weird obsession. You and others posted materials from that site to debunk the Hulsey study.

Laughable you support that clown.

You're dodging the point.

I also think that the reason You dislike Mick West so much is that you can't actually address his points. That's why you keep going on about him here and not addressing him directly. I think that's a bit cowardly.

Regardless, the fact remains that you believe Husley's report is a fraud. Why do you keep supporting it?

Cheerful Spring2 · 18-04-2020 2:32pm

King Mob wrote: »

You're dodging the point.

I also think that the reason You dislike Mick West so much is that you can't actually address his points. That's why you keep going on about him here and not addressing him directly. I think that's a bit cowardly.

Regardless, the fact remains that you believe Husley's report is a fraud. Why do you keep supporting it?

Ask NIST for the full connection data? Nobody in their right mind can accept the NIST study legit, when they’re keeping the engineering FEA data to themselves and they're not releasing it..

Mick West belittles 9/11 research all the time online. Unlike you, I watch his videos. I have spoken to Mick West privately, his a salesperson and con man. Majority of debunkers are.

Strange how they're not one engineer who came out yet and supported Mick position? Mick knows he ****ed up but will block comments that show that.

Mick did not know what "DSR" sudden column removal was when Hulsey released his draft paper. He even said on video Hulsey, a structural engineering professor teaching students, the subject at high profile university in Alaska, did not know what he was doing here. Arrogance is off the scale! He debunked the Hulsey paper in one day lol.

Cheerful Spring2 · 18-04-2020 2:41pm

King Mob watch this video it exposes him. Arrogance try to put yourself against an engineer having never even used FEA in his life is way beyond pathetic.

King Mob · 18-04-2020 4:10pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Mick West

Mick

Mick

Again, I'm not talking about Mick West or his points or your odd obsession with him. If you have issues with his claim, bring them up with him.

I'm talking about your position.
You believe Hulsey's report is wrong. You believe he published a fraudulent report.
Yet you keep supporting it.
Why do you support a fraudulent report?

Dohnjoe · 18-04-2020 4:19pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Arrogance

You believe you know more than the original engineers and investigators. More than established historical fact.

You struggle to understand secondary school maths and physics. You "see" things in photos that aren't there. You plagiarise conspiracy ideas from a blog, state them as fact, then drop them a few days later. It's sheer ignorance and some of the most delusion arrogance I've ever seen on these forums.

And you think "secret Nazis" pull off these things. All you need to do is keep replying, because your inane views are the best argument against this 911 conspiracy stuff.

Cheerful Spring2 · 18-04-2020 4:27pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

You believe you know more than the original engineers and investigators. More than established historical fact.

You struggle to understand secondary school maths and physics. You "see" things in photos that aren't there. You plagiarise conspiracy ideas from a blog, state them as fact, then drop them a few days later. It's sheer ignorance and some of the most delusion arrogance I've ever seen on these forums.

And you think "secret Nazis" pull off these things. All you need to do is keep replying, because your inane views are the best argument against this 911 conspiracy stuff.

No info post again, just opinion. I believe the AE911 truth opinion correct
You believe you know more than the original engineers and investigators. More than established historical fact.

Your bias Opinion.
And you think "secret Nazis" pull off these things. All you need to do is keep replying, because your inane views are the best argument against this 911 conspiracy stuf

Just a rant and same nonsense Kingmob posts.
You struggle to understand secondary school maths and physics. You "see" things in photos that aren't there. You plagiarise conspiracy ideas from a blog, state them as fact, then drop them a few days later. It's sheer ignorance and some of the most delusion arrogance I've ever seen on these forums.

Cheerful Spring2 · 18-04-2020 4:32pm

King Mob wrote: »

Again, I'm not talking about Mick West or his points or your odd obsession with him. If you have issues with his claim, bring them up with him.

I'm talking about your position.
You believe Hulsey's report is wrong. You believe he published a fraudulent report.
Yet you keep supporting it.
Why do you support a fraudulent report?

You got fooled by Mick West. I posted why he was wrong. Information ignored of course!

King Mob · 18-04-2020 4:34pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

You got fooled by Mick West. I posted why he was wrong. Information ignored of course!

Yes it's ignored because I'm not talking about Mick West and never brought him up.
I don't really care about your weird personal vendetta against the man.

You claimed Hulsey was wrong. You believe his report is a fraud.
Yet you keep supporting it.
Why?

Cheerful Spring2 · 18-04-2020 4:36pm

King Mob wrote: »

Yes it's ignored because I'm not talking about Mick West and never brought him up.
I don't really care about your weird personal vendetta against the man.

You claimed Hulsey was wrong. You believe his report is a fraud.
Yet you keep supporting it.
Why?

lies, you posted stuff to this forum off Metabunk when the draft came out and commented on it. Claimed, a fraud

King Mob · 18-04-2020 4:38pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

lies, you posted stuff to this forum off Metabunk when the draft came out and commented on it. Claimed, a fraud

Yes, in a previous thread months ago.

Now I'm discussing the fact you believe Hulsey is wrong and his report is a fraud.

Why do you still support it when you believe it's a fraud?

Cheerful Spring2 · 18-04-2020 4:39pm

King Mob wrote: »

Yes, in a previous thread months ago.

Now I'm discussing the fact you believe Hulsey is wrong and his report is a fraud.

Why do you still support it when you believe it's a fraud?

I not let you off. Why did you believe Mick West?

King Mob · 18-04-2020 5:01pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

I not let you off. Why did you believe Mick West?

Lol. you're dodging questions while demanding others answer your odd ones.

For one, I believe Mick over you cause he seems to be able to do high school math.

Why do you continue to support Hulsey's study when you've admited it's a fraud? If you dodge the question again, I will go forward assuming my theory that it's because you don't care whether it's true or not, only that it supports your almost religious belief about 9/11.

Timberrrrrrrr · 18-04-2020 5:09pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

lies, you posted stuff to this forum off Metabunk when the draft came out and commented on it. Claimed, a fraud

You keep spouting waffle yet refuse to engage with this part of his post, in fact you have ignored this many times. Instead of posting more nonsense why not answer his question please

You claimed Hulsey was wrong. You believe his report is a fraud.
Yet you keep supporting it.
Why?

Cheerful Spring2 · 18-04-2020 5:13pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

You keep spouting waffle yet refuse to engage with this part of his post, in fact you have ignored this many times. Instead of posting more nonsense why not answer his question please

Read post 1631.
You guys did not even notice the issues with Mick opinion.
Saying i post nonsense

King Mob · 18-04-2020 5:16pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Read post 1631.
You guys did not even notice the issues with Mick opinion.
Saying i post nonsense

That post does not address my question. You just go off on a random tangent about someone I did not bring up in my post. In my post I was not referring to anything Mick West said or believed.
Your post is very much nonsense.

Timberrrrrrrr · 18-04-2020 5:16pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Read post 1631.
You guys did not even notice the issues with Mick opinion.
Saying i post nonsense

You're such a fraud yourself no wonder you worship other fraudsters.

Care to be honest for once and directly answer a question that you have been asked?

You claimed Hulsey was wrong. You believe his report is a fraud.
Yet you keep supporting it.
Why?

Cheerful Spring2 · 18-04-2020 5:19pm

King Mob wrote: »

That post does not address my question. You just go off on a random tangent about someone I did not bring up in my post. In my post I was not referring to anything Mick West said or believed.
It's very much nonsense.

Mick West has no clue about structural engineering or finite element analysis. He can't comprehend the study, never mind try to debunk it.

You guys used his info to call the Hulsey study a fraud. You don't see now that's funny!

King Mob · 18-04-2020 5:22pm

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

Mick West has no clue about structural engineering or finite element analysis. He can't comprehend the study, never mind try to debunk it.

If you say so. I don't really believe you and you certainly don't understand any of those things.

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

You guys used his info to call the Hulsey study a fraud. You don't see now that's funny!

Well, no. In this case, I'm referring to the fact you said Hulsey's study was a fraud. I'm using the fact you've rejected the study.
You believe it's wrong and a fraud. So why do you keep supporting it?

Dr Hulsey WTC7 findings for people who not aware of this new study.

Comments