Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

Be right back wrote: »

Don't think they quite understand.. Orange county protest.

A lot of candidates qualifying for the 'Darwin Awards' this year !

hotmail.com wrote: »

Any sign of Woodies reopening?

Woodies can reopen but have chosen not to. They can legally but Leo says no

hotmail.com wrote: »

It seems that they don't really care in America about the huge loss of life. So I've no idea why Irish people should start caring about them.

In that case the US needs to be closed from the world like North Korea, right now US is the epicentre, what they do effects us all.

spookwoman wrote: »

Ref the around since October, even maybe before - Epidemiologist Larry Brilliant, yes that is his name, who helped eradicate smallpox believes the virus has been around for awhile. They went into an area tested 1000 people for antibodies and knowing the antibody tests are not 100% they got too high a reading from the population for something that only appeared in December. A variant of the virus could have been around and somehow mutated into the monster we are seeing now.

I was just reading the comments on the Newsweek article re this that was posted earlier and someone mentioned the mystery vaping illness that hospitalised thousands of people and killed 60 last year in the US. Was the cause of that ever found for sure? Looking it up there is speculation it has to do with vitamin E in the vaping fluid. I'm sure it's nothing to do with Covid 19 but at the same time, a mystery lung illness in the months right before the outbreak of a pandemic of a respiratory illness should probably be checked on and ruled out.

owlbethere wrote: »

I was up late last night. I went to bed when the birds started to sing this morning. The euronews was on in the background and I noticed a clip from some country. I don't know from where. It was of a line of people wearing protective clothing, powerwashing or steaming the roads.

Like,

WTF is that about?

You would swear there are crowds of infected people forming on the roads coughing and spluttering all over the place. Or maybe the virus is turning body fluids into a poisonous gas or something.

ek motor wrote: »

Nobody knows how long the immunity lasts for because more research is required and this is a new virus.

If infection and recovery does not give a significant level of immunity does this imply that an effective vaccine in not possible?

threeball wrote: »

Once was a nice gesture. Now it just something to do cos they're bored.

First week was fine, when they clapped for NHS and Boris it was time to bail out!

Checked out of here for a while, refreshing not to be reading constant negativity and people getting visibly excited posting 'bad' news.

Regarding the WHO comments, they have been widely misreported by the Irish and UK media.

What they said is that there is no evidence that serological antibody tests will tell us if people have immunity. They also never said that we won't have immunity. At this stage nobody is in a position to say this one way or the other.

The serological tests are based on the detection of antibodies in the blood. 2 antibodies are used, IgM and IgG. IgM is produced first then IgG which stays in the body for a varying amount of time. There antibodies neutralise the virus when we come into contact with it. What the WHO said is that we don't know for sure that 1) everyone will produce IgG, and 2) that those with IgG seropositivity will be 'immune'.

This goes back to what immunity actually is. It is very possible, and in my opinion very likely, that those that produce IgG will not get a significant COVID-19 infection. They could however get a mild illness and pass it on. This will also very much likely depend on viral load exposed to. If one gets a low viral load exposure and has IgG produced its unlikely they'll get unwell. If one has tiny levels of IgG and they get a large prolonged viral load they may develop severe infection.

This is just my opinion, as was the WHO statement. But if you look at the history of humanity, we simply do not usually continue to get acute infections with the same agents over and over.

Please take all these reports with a pinch of salt, for every report saying you may not get immunity there are reports saying you most likely will.