Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

fritzelly · 18-04-2020 12:20AM

MipMap wrote: »

Quick Question.

When did it start that every time anyone asks a question of someone on the telly they always start the answer with the word "SO"

So how do you expect them to answer?

Checks last 4 pages and only person started their answer so

Minnie Snuggles · 18-04-2020 12:22AM

TimeToShine wrote: »

I would bet my house that Trump will win the election and it'll be a landslide. A lot of people here don't understand Americans, they take patriotism to a new level and the vast majority see this as an evil Chinese virus and only Trump has the balls to stick it to them. They see China as coming for their world superpower title and they are having none of it.

Bookies are offering 10/11 at the moment.

Take those odds, people who were avid Trump supporters are far more concerned about what is happening in their own neighbourhoods. I am now hearing "I have respect for the office of the President", they are no longer Trump supporters.

Blueshoe · 18-04-2020 12:23AM

fritzelly wrote: »

So how do you expect them to answer?

Checks last 4 pages and only person started their answer so

You aren't on the telly though. It's right up there with someone who starts a written sentence with "Right lads". It's like they are about to give a team talk before a county final

fritzelly · 18-04-2020 12:25AM

Blueshoe wrote: »

You aren't on the telly though. It's right up there with someone who starts a written sentence with "Right lads". It's like they are about to give a team talk before a county final

No worse than
"Going back to the numbers..." - George Lee

MipMap · 18-04-2020 12:25AM

fritzelly wrote: »

So how do you expect them to answer?
Checks last 4 pages and only person started their answer so

SO...I said on "the telly". 90% of the time Tony Holohan starts his sentences with the word "SO" followed by brief pause.

Rob A. Bank · 18-04-2020 12:25AM

Blueshoe wrote: »

This is part of why they love him

We aren't American. Different people different mindset.

Different people

fritzelly · 18-04-2020 12:26AM

MipMap wrote: »

SO...I said on "the telly". 90% of the time Tony Holohan starts his sentences with the word "SO" followed by brief pause.

It's a delay tactic while you think about what to say instead of dead air

Blueshoe · 18-04-2020 12:28AM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Yeah I've seen it. Picked out a few right goons. If you believe that these are the only type of people who vote for Donald and the republican party in general you are uninformed.
Pure dopes in the video though

We still never found out why Obama wasn't in the white house during 9/11

MipMap · 18-04-2020 12:29AM

fritzelly wrote: »

It's a delay tactic while you think about what to say instead of dead air

Excellent answer. I knew that. Wondered if anyone else did.

Like they used to say,

All that comes before the word "but" is BS

18-04-2020 12:31AM

MipMap wrote: »

Excellent answer. I knew that. Wondered if anyone else did.

Like they used to say,

All that comes before the word "but" is BS

I thought that was just for apologies.

fritzelly · 18-04-2020 12:31AM

MipMap wrote: »

Excellent answer. I knew that. Wondered if anyone else did.

Like they used to say,

All that comes before the word "but" is BS

Unless you're Trump in which case god knows how his brain works but he is never short of a word - he didn't kiss the blarney stone, he bought it

briancoolcat · 18-04-2020 12:31AM

Blueshoe wrote: »

China are definitely coming for that position. Trumps trade war was only the beginning of worsening relations between the two.

I have said it here before, we are such a tiny country we do not matter a jot in the global battle against covid or any major world event. If things go tits up between the US and China which is quite possibly with Trump at the helm we can only look on in despair. Despite some of the petty arguments that go on here I think we are doing a good job. Yeah we could have done better in certain areas but hindsight is great. This is a once in a lifetime event and we as Irish people will get through with kindness, stoicism, and good old Irish humour. Keep the faith and the fingers crossed that the Don doesn't do something really stupid.

JP Liz V1 · 18-04-2020 12:32AM

I feel for anyone with family and friends in nursing homes or residential care centres, it must so stressful not seeing them or even knowing if they are ok and then hearing of the horrific clusters of cases and deaths in the news, it is so sad

Blueshoe · 18-04-2020 12:33AM

briancoolcat wrote: »

I have said it here before, we are such a tiny country we do not matter a jot in the global battle against covid or any major world event. If things go tits up between the US and China which is quite possibly with Trump at the helm we can only look on in despair. Despite some of the petty arguments that go on here I think we are doing a good job. Yeah we could have done better in certain areas but hindsight is great. This is a once in a lifetime event and we as Irish people will get through with kindness, stoicism, and good old Irish humour. Keep the faith and the fingers crossed that the Don doesn't do something really stupid.

I wouldn't worry. I'm looking forward to when this is over and we can get back to not having a government and Brexit

JP Liz V1 · 18-04-2020 12:37AM

Blueshoe wrote: »

But who will replace him. Biden is a pretty crappy alternative

If only NY Cuomo was in the running

fritzelly · 18-04-2020 12:40AM

Blueshoe wrote: »

I wouldn't worry. I'm looking forward to when this is over and we can get back to not having a government and Brexit

Has Brexit been suspended or delayed or anything on the back of this?

Blueshoe · 18-04-2020 12:42AM

fritzelly wrote: »

Has Brexit been suspended or delayed or anything on the back of this?

I'm not sure . I don't think so . Did I read somewhere that there are 3 weeks of talks coming up

Blueshoe · 18-04-2020 12:43AM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

If only NY Cuomo was in the running

Did he run at all?

spookwoman · 18-04-2020 12:44AM

Blueshoe wrote: »

Did he run at all?

He said he wouldn't run

patnor1011 · 18-04-2020 01:10AM

Here is what the Executive Director at the WHO Health Emergencies Program, Dr. Michael Ryan, said during an interview:

“In most parts of the world, due to lockdown, most of the transmission that’s actually happening in many countries now is happening in the household, at family level. In some senses, transmission has been taken off the streets and pushed back into family units. Now we need to go and look in families and find those people who may be sick and remove them, and isolate them, in a safe and dignified manner.”

Well that escalated quickly. Now we are talking about raiding homes and seizing family members who are sick.
Where is the limit on government powers during an emergency?

MipMap · 18-04-2020 01:13AM

patnor1011 wrote: »

Here is what the Executive Director at the WHO Health Emergencies Program, Dr. Michael Ryan, said during an interview:

“In most parts of the world, due to lockdown, most of the transmission that’s actually happening in many countries now is happening in the household, at family level. In some senses, transmission has been taken off the streets and pushed back into family units. Now we need to go and look in families and find those people who may be sick and remove them, and isolate them, in a safe and dignified manner.”

Well that escalated quickly. Now we are talking about raiding homes and seizing family members who are sick.
Where is the limit on government powers during an emergency?

Kinda like painting a cross on their door.
Like they did in the middle ages.

jimmycrackcorm · 18-04-2020 01:17AM

patnor1011 wrote: »

Here is what the Executive Director at the WHO Health Emergencies Program, Dr. Michael Ryan, said during an interview:

“In most parts of the world, due to lockdown, most of the transmission that’s actually happening in many countries now is happening in the household, at family level. In some senses, transmission has been taken off the streets and pushed back into family units. Now we need to go and look in families and find those people who may be sick and remove them, and isolate them, in a safe and dignified manner.”

Well that escalated quickly. Now we are talking about raiding homes and seizing family members who are sick.
Where is the limit on government powers during an emergency?

There have ben incredible numbers of deaths in Italian homes where it is normal for multi-generational family members to live together. Maybe you're ok if your grandparents living in your home are going to die because you might bring back the disease but it doesn't need to be a government rule for it to make sense to protect people in the home from that.

fritzelly · 18-04-2020 01:19AM

patnor1011 wrote: »

Here is what the Executive Director at the WHO Health Emergencies Program, Dr. Michael Ryan, said during an interview:

“In most parts of the world, due to lockdown, most of the transmission that’s actually happening in many countries now is happening in the household, at family level. In some senses, transmission has been taken off the streets and pushed back into family units. Now we need to go and look in families and find those people who may be sick and remove them, and isolate them, in a safe and dignified manner.”

Well that escalated quickly. Now we are talking about raiding homes and seizing family members who are sick.
Where is the limit on government powers during an emergency?

No it wasn't Dr Ryan saying that

And you omitted the earlier part of it

. Ideally that quarantine should occur in a place other
than the home and for this reason, one, because if that person gets sick they may already have infected their family.
But that's not always possible so at least quarantining contacts at home with good health advice about not transmitting disease if they become sick and with regular monitoring of that individual is an option for countries
It is difficult to deal with that, so home quarantine of contacts is acceptable with appropriate
information, education and more importantly a very rapid system of getting those people out
of their homes if they become sick

MipMap · 18-04-2020 01:30AM

SO...

We all know that we live in a society wher the majority of people follow the rules and behave in a responsible manner.
However, we also have members of our society who engage in certain practices such as:

Igniting Wheelie Bins
Demolising Lidl Stores
Hacking ATMs from Banks
Spitting at Gardai

When these people get infected do we honestly think we can trust them to self isolate, Contact trace etc.,?

wakka12 · 18-04-2020 01:52AM

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/mumbais-public-hospitals-run-icu-beds-coronavirus-spreads/

ICU beds in Mumbai have ran out, they have just 200 for a population of 22 million

wakka12 · 18-04-2020 01:55AM

WHO says coronavirus can be contained in Africa

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/africa/coronavirus-africa-can-still-contain-covid-19-outbreak-says-who

BUt despite that, 300,000 Africans are expected to die in the next 6 months from coronavirus
A scenario where interventions to stop the virus are not put in place, 3.3 million africans are thought to die before the end of 2020

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/africa/at-least-300000-africans-expected-to-die-in-coronavirus-pandemic-un-agency

fritzelly · 18-04-2020 01:58AM

wakka12 wrote: »

WHO says coronavirus can be contained in Africa

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/africa/coronavirus-africa-can-still-contain-covid-19-outbreak-says-who

BUt despite that, 300,000 Africans are expected to die in the next 6 months from coronavirus
A scenario where interventions to stop the virus are not put in place, 3.3 million africans are thought to die before the end of 2020

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/africa/at-least-300000-africans-expected-to-die-in-coronavirus-pandemic-un-agency

WHO to believe?

Didn't jump in to help Italy or Spain or anywhere else for that fact - even their "coronavirus update" briefings were all precursored with what an amazing job we are doing in Africa stopping ebola
I'm half of the mind that ebola patient they rescued was nothing more than a photo op

18-04-2020 02:04AM

300,000 is 0.025% of Africans. Italy is currently at 0.038% for deaths.

Not sure why anyone would band all of Africa together except to make scary numbers.

ShineOn7 · 18-04-2020 02:09AM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Virus was in Europe, and in the States even before they detected it in Wuhan. There was most likely a 3 week window of free movement into Europe and States before people started to get sick in Wuhan.
And there were reports in countries of an increase in respiratory illness, but they never knew it was something new.

fritzelly · 18-04-2020 02:20AM

Deleted User wrote: »

300,000 is 0.025% of Africans. Italy is currently at 0.038% for deaths.

Not sure why anyone would band all of Africa together except to make scary numbers.

Where are you getting 0.038% for Italy - even flu has a worse CFR than that yet doesn't fill the hospitals

Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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