Bulgarian workers/Keelings - read OP (threadbans listed)

Boxcar_Willie · 17-04-2020 09:49AM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Link?

Call the manager at Centra Termonfeckin .
He'll gladly confirm it .

blinding · 17-04-2020 09:49AM

Boxcar_Willie wrote: »

No yarn . In a small village outsiders stick out like are sore thumb . They are here and they're not isolating . FACT .

I well believe you.

As I said , We are being Spun many the Fine Yarn for the Worship of Cheap / Exploited Labour.:eek:

Jinglejangle69 · 17-04-2020 09:50AM

Boxcar_Willie wrote: »

Call the manager at Centra Termonfeckin .
He'll gladly confirm it .

Yeah OK.

Jesus christ.

FVP3 · 17-04-2020 09:50AM

LeBash wrote: »

I dont get the issue here.

200 people arrive, pick food, then leave.

They will 99% only mix with themselves, they cant go to a pub, cinema etc and without people picking food we would have a much bigger problem in a month.

This is probably much safer than having 200 Irish workers all working together and then going home each night.

The problem is there could easily be a cluster amongst themselves, which would be hard to contain.

paw patrol · 17-04-2020 09:51AM

everlast75 wrote: »

If

a) Keelings apply the appropriate HSE guidelines
b) the workers are not exploited
c) irish people have not sought the jobs and have been refused

please explain to me the issue here. I'm not being sarcastic btw - I'm genuinely asking.

no bother , it's nice to get some reasoned debate. -

I don't think its' possible to employ HSE guidelines effectively on site .
How are they going to be fed etc? They currently go to the local shops/supermarkets...are keelings going for them?

What about the staff on-site but not part of the newly arrived...are they now confined to the site?
or are they kept separate from the newly arrived? Which is impossible btw.

What about the bus that ferries them back and forth? are they keeping the staff separated on that.
How many (if any) of Keelings on site workers are housed in overflow accommodation off site (in the local community)

many practical questions...that "we will follow the HSE" doesn't answer and cant tbh.

It's all too easy to say "we follow the HSE" on the ground its quite different.
And , of course, this is the same HSE that boards.ie posters wanted to burn to the ground 6 months ago .

I live near there...these staff are daily on the road, parks and shops.
We are adding new bodies to the situation, complete opposite of the rules laid out by the state. That's my issue.

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

They tried to hire locally, but couldn't get the numbers. What do you want?

What has this got to do with Leo insisting on social distancing? you're exposing yourself as lead by emotion, instead of logic.

actually I'm exposed to these people on a personal level as I frequent the same shops and parks as them

17-04-2020 09:51AM

Boxcar_Willie wrote: »

Call the manager at Centra Termonfeckin .
He'll gladly confirm it .

That shop is packed at the best of times, and its not exactly a huge place. Quite worrying.

Graham · 17-04-2020 09:52AM

Boxcar_Willie wrote: »

No yarn . In a small village outsiders stick out like are sore thumb . They are here and they're not isolating . FACT .

And you can tell just by looking at them which ones have just arrived?

17-04-2020 09:52AM

seanboylan87 wrote: »

No, larger (than average) Slavic foreheads and high hairlines.

Ha ha that gave me a laugh. Just played so straight or something. Bravo.

Tacitus Kilgore · 17-04-2020 09:52AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Hmm.....anything that requires hundreds of labour units and cant be harvested mechanically can be listed non-essential

What diet requires strawberrys as a vital componant to be balanced??

Deleted User wrote: »

Any that can be mechanically picked?

Noone is saying we dont need it,but we need to prioritise....strawberrys arent worth risking peoples health for imo

Too ambiguous, not workable unfortunately.

There is plenty of produce that might be harvested mechanically, but what about quality selection, treatment, packaging & distribution? all require labour, what you are saying is fine, in theory only.

blinding · 17-04-2020 09:53AM

FVP3 wrote: »

The problem is there could easily be a cluster amongst themselves, which would be hard to contain.

Sure , Aren’t they only Romanians and Bulgarians = Perfectly Expendable on the Alter of Cheap / Exploited Labour. Perhaps they may Crucify One ! ! !:eek::eek:

PhilOssophy · 17-04-2020 09:53AM

Healio wrote: »

So no outrage at Ryanair then for flying them in?

Amazed at this myself.

17-04-2020 09:53AM

GarIT wrote: »

Or you know maybe I am actually willing to do whatever I have to do to help the country in these times. I'm just not going to do something that's not helping.

That’s fine. Doubt you’d pick fruit for hours on end for less than 350 a week though.

Boxcar_Willie · 17-04-2020 09:55AM

Graham wrote: »

And you can tell just by looking at them which ones have just arrived?

If they were on your doorstop in a small village you'd tell too !!
Anything out of the ordinary sticks out.

Noodles81 · 17-04-2020 09:55AM

Screenshot from Drogheda Leader newspaper on Facebook.

It's an absolute disgrace.

17-04-2020 09:56AM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Too ambiguous, not workable unfortunately.

There is plenty of produce that might be harvested mechanically, but what about quality selection, treatment, packaging & distribution? all require labour, what you are saying is fine, in theory only.

They are virtually all automated....ive worked in such places

Noone has bother with people working at food etc....just you get more people fed per person working at spuds etc than strawberries??

Its incomprehensible that people cant grasp this....its not bulgarians,a dislike of strawberries,its just too dangerous to be taking risks with what is going on at the min

17-04-2020 09:56AM

It’s been said on thread here that strawberries, and by proxy I assume other fruits, aren’t essential. Could the folks saying that give some examples of what they think are and are not essential foods. I’d have to think alcohol gets the chop anyway?

Graham · 17-04-2020 09:58AM

Noodles81 wrote: »

Screenshot from Drogheda Leader newspaper on Facebook.

It's an absolute disgrace.

I'm sure it will be good for likes & shares for the Drogheda Leader.

is_that_so · 17-04-2020 09:58AM

Noodles81 wrote: »

Screenshot from Drogheda Leader newspaper on Facebook.

It's an absolute disgrace.

Ah, that bastion of journalistic excellence!

blinding · 17-04-2020 09:58AM

We hear ; “ Tis Back breaking Work , Ya Know “

Sure , No Harm at all breaking the Backs of Romanians and Bulgarians :eek::eek:

Tis, No Wonder that Paddy was Often the Whip Master for the British :eek::eek:

Tacitus Kilgore · 17-04-2020 09:58AM

Deleted User wrote: »

They are virtually all automated....ive worked in such places

Noone has bother with people working at food etc....just you get more people fed per person working at spuds than strawberries??

Its incomprehensible that people cant grasp this....its not bulgarians,a dislike of strawberries,its just too dangerous to be taking risks with what is going on at the min

Virtually ain't all.

See what Im getting at..

If it's not crystal clear, it's ambiguous and useless.

paw patrol · 17-04-2020 09:58AM

seamus wrote: »

paw patrol, why are you not outraged that the Tesco worker is "allowed" to travel 10km to work every day?

they aren't the same thing and you know it too

That Tesco person isn't flying in from across the continent. on a plane with recycled air, through airport on a bus to live in a barracks with a few 100 others.

The Tesco worker was already here. These are new. They are adding to it.
The lockdown is a sham and this proves it.

Akabusi · 17-04-2020 10:00AM

I love the smell of fresh outrage in the morning. The Cheltenham crowd will be relieved.

17-04-2020 10:01AM

Scotty # wrote: »

You are welcome to apply, that will mean one less needed to import > https://keelings.ie/corporate/careers-at-keelings/

I notice they are also looking for an in-house recruiter. Previously they would have farmed:) all this out to third party contractors in Bulgaria or elsewhere to source labour. Do people believe its possible to start from scratch and hire 200 people overnight with no system in place?

Tacitus Kilgore · 17-04-2020 10:01AM

blinding wrote: »

We hear ; “ Tis Back breaking Work , Ya Know “

Sure , No Harm at all breaking the Backs of Romanians and Bulgarians :eek::eek:

Tis, No Wonder that Paddy was Often the Whip Master for the British :eek::eek:

You Know That The Reason Irish People Don't Do This Work Is Because Its So Low Paid (Mostly) Due To Competition With Imports. In Order To Make It Viable They Have To Import Workers From Poorer Regions Who Are Happy To Do The Work For A Pittance Or Else The Foodstuffs Just Wouldn't Be Produced Here At All.

Graham · 17-04-2020 10:02AM

paw patrol wrote: »

they aren't the same thing and you know it too

That Tesco person isn't flying in from across the continent. on a plane with recycled air, through airport on a bus to live in a barracks with a few 100 others.

The Tesco worker was already here.

The Tesco worker is helping feed hundreds of people a day including the front-line staff caring for those infected with Coronavirus.

Thank you to those people for helping keep the nation fed and cared for.

Tacitus Kilgore · 17-04-2020 10:02AM

paw patrol wrote: »

they aren't the same thing and you know it too

That Tesco person isn't flying in from across the continent. on a plane with recycled air, through airport on a bus to live in a barracks with a few 100 others.

The Tesco worker was already here. These are new. They are adding to it.
The lockdown is a sham and this proves it.

What lockdown?

17-04-2020 10:03AM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

What in the holy hell is this? :pac:

Telling us that under freedom of expression, people are free to spout sh1te

Pkiernan · 17-04-2020 10:04AM

This is a side effect of unlimited free dole for generations of professional Irish layabouts.

Cut the dole to 55euro a week after one year.

17-04-2020 10:04AM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

7 million population just over 18,000 tests

We have just under 5 million and had nearly 91,000 tests by April 13th.

only 40 deaths.

Tacitus Kilgore · 17-04-2020 10:04AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Telling us that under freedom of expression, people are free to spout sh1te

Under a UK law :pac::pac::pac:

Bulgarian workers/Keelings - read OP (threadbans listed)

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