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Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Whatever about not doing enough for nursing homes. To come out and say the restrictions that were put in place "to protect residents" should be lifted. That was insanity.

    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1237447726331281408?s=20


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Danzy wrote: »
    Wuhan alone is believed to have had 45k dead.

    So less than half of a percent of the entire population?

    Wuhan has a population of 11.5 million.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭Tordelback


    I'd go as far as to say that there should be international sanctions imposed on them at this rate.

    Sanctions on the country that's manufacturing and distributing almost all the world's PPE, on the cusp of the greatest global economic catastrophe in modern history. Righty-oh then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Have they really admitted that? I missed it. Who announced it?
    The Chinese did themselves.
    They under-reported the deaths in Wuhan city by 50%.
    Nice round number they came up with, right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Kivaro wrote: »
    The Chinese did themselves.
    They under-reported the deaths in Wuhan city by 50%.
    Nice round number they came up with, right?

    My question was about the UK not China.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Whatever about not doing enough for nursing homes. To come out and say the restrictions that were put in place "to protect residents" should be lifted. That was insanity.

    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1237447726331281408?s=20

    Almost criminal negligence tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    Ireland has contained and effectively suppressed coronavirus in the population at large, a tribute to early and successful action by authorities and the public.

    The bad news is the pandemic continues to wreak havoc in care homes which account for more than 300 of the 486 recorded deaths. “The data clearly shows that there are two very different experiences of Covid-19 in Ireland today,” the chief medical officer, Tony Holohan, told a media briefing.

    The daily number of deaths nationwide reached a new high of 43 on Thursday but the number of new cases of Covid-19 has plateaued and should soon fall, according to the National Public Health Emergency Team.

    Since 3 April the growth rate in new cases has been close to zero and the number in intensive care units has stabilised. The reproduction number of the disease is now estimated at 0.7 to 1, a steep fall from the outset of the pandemic when an infected person infected around 4.5 other people.

    However almost one-third of nursing homes have the Covid-19 virus, according to the Health Information and Quality Authority. Some experts are calling it a catastrophe.

    Separately, there is concern that earlier this week almost 200 fruit pickers flew from Bulgaria to Dublin on a Ryanair flight that allegedly lacked social distancing measures on board.

    Irish media cited a letter from purporting to be from a Ryanair employee which said the chartered flight put cabin crew at risk. Some politicians complained, saying it made no sense to import seasonal workers in the teeth of a pandemic when people in Ireland could not travel more than 2km from home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    My question was about the UK not China.

    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-dont-underestimate-how-unpleasant-this-will-be-body-recovery-teams-warned-11969425

    'The Pandemic Multi-Agency Response Teams (Pmart), began work in the capital last week amid projections that around one third of suspected coronavirus deaths could happen outside hospitals.'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Tordelback wrote: »
    Sanctions on the country that's manufacturing and distributing almost all the world's PPE, on the cusp of the greatest global economic catastrophe in modern history. Righty-oh then.

    The country that is supplying batches of faulty PPE not fit for purpose?

    I don't trust them. Or their manufacturing standards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Almost criminal negligence tbh.

    I couldn't get my head around it. I got a warning for suggesting that the nursing home is trying to protect their clients because they pay the bills etc. vs the government who has to pay their pension.

    Could not fathom it at all. Very sad. I can only explain as being a triage decision. i.e we are not going to be able to treat everyone. Anyone in a nursing home is on their own. That's what has transpired up until a few days ago when the backlash prompted support.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    FFS.

    Ok. I have been on this thread for months saying that the Chinese should be trusted and had posters arguing with me over that. I think that's been put to bed.

    They really need to come clean and be honest about this virus for the purposes of finding a vaccine. They now a lot more than they are saying about where it originated from and by all accounts wet markets and the eating of meat not fit for human consumption is still rife.

    I'd go as far as to say that there should be international sanctions imposed on them at this rate.

    China will be made a pariah by the international community when all this is said and done. They have fcuked the world with their dishonesty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    wakka12 wrote: »

    Unless I misread, that says nothing at all about the UK government admitting that Coronavirus deaths are greatly under reported. Perhaps you could quote where the article does?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Hooked wrote: »
    Just not good enough... We're all playing our part. They've had what, 5 weeks to get the testing sorted. Lucky we all stayed home and helped them out - or testing would be the least of their worries!

    The longer this goes on - the less confident I am in the "powers that be".
    How long do you imagine it takes to get a system in place? Consider the three phases, physical testing, analysis, reporting and contact tracing. To that mix add having required supplies including chemicals guaranteed so that the system can provide support for the 15000 daily target they have set themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Russia breaks its highest daily total record for the 6th day in a row with 4000 new cases this morning


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Unless I misread, that says nothing at all about the UK government admitting that Coronavirus deaths are greatly under reported. Perhaps you could quote where the article does?


    'The Pandemic Multi-Agency Response Teams (Pmart), began work in the capital last week amid projections that around one third of suspected coronavirus deaths could happen outside hospitals.'

    It's projected by this government body that up to a third of deaths occurred outside the home, which would mean they're unreported. So they are now going about accurately reporting the large number of unreported dead by collecting all the bodies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Almost criminal negligence tbh.
    All they are saying is that it is not their recommendation, they want everyone on the same page. There was also a comment last night about what NHs are telling families of residents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    wakka12 wrote: »
    'The Pandemic Multi-Agency Response Teams (Pmart), began work in the capital last week amid projections that around one third of suspected coronavirus deaths could happen outside hospitals.'

    It's projected by this government body that up to a third of deaths occurred outside the home, which would mean they're unreported, and are now being collected . So they are now going about accurately reporting the large number of unreported dead

    About time. I look forward to Johnson standing up and admitting that they hid the real figures all along.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,202 ✭✭✭✭hmmm




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,202 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    is_that_so wrote: »
    All they are saying is that it is not their recommendation, they want everyone on the same page. There was also a comment last night about what NHs are telling families of residents.
    Yep they wanted consistent implementation of recommendations from NPHET. Otherwise every nursing home, industry, sporting association, retailer etc etc would be off on solo runs. All of us moving through stages at the same time was important.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    5 weeks ago..

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112770129&postcount=2670

    2 days ago UK having to ask India for paracetamol.
    The Indian government has approved the export of 2,800,000 packets of paracetamol to the UK.

    The medicine will be distributed to leading UK supermarkets and retailers, the Department for International Trade announced on Tuesday (14).

    The drug is prescribed to deal with fever, which is one of the key symptoms of coronavirus. The UK has 93,873 cases of people who tested positive, besides 12,107 deaths, according to Reuters tally on Wednesday (15).


    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-to-receive-nearly-3-million-packets-of-paracetamol

    https://www.pharmacy.biz/india-to-ship-nearly-three-million-packets-of-paracetamol-to-uk/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    hmmm wrote: »
    Isn't there some kind of announcement or report imminent from HIQA/NEPHT on this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭babybuilder


    Whatever about not doing enough for nursing homes. To come out and say the restrictions that were put in place "to protect residents" should be lifted. That was insanity.

    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1237447726331281408?s=20
    This is far more serious than spitting in a guards face. Yet no sanction or no investigation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    hmmm wrote: »
    Great to see the Captain Hindsights in full flow. We'll be listening to them for the next 10 years.

    I don't remember anyone on this thread mentioning nursing homes 2 months ago, now it's all "well it was obvious that the biggest risk was...."

    There was news at the end of February about a nursing home in Washington or New York with residents falling ill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,202 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Isn't there some kind of announcement or report imminent from HIQA/NEPHT on this?
    Last I heard they were waiting to see whether the tests were proving accurate before considering whether to proceed. The UK spent millions on a batch of dodgy testing kits I seem to remember.

    We also have to decide what to do with the data. Is it "interesting", or is it useful in some way e.g. immunity passports. I imagine they don't want distractions at the moment as they try to scale up testing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    This is far more serious than spitting in a guards face. Yet no sanction or no investigation.
    Yep, let's lock up all of NEPHT for restating their position.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    hmmm wrote: »
    Last I heard they were waiting to see whether the tests were proving accurate before considering whether to proceed. The UK spent millions on a batch of dodgy testing kits I seem to remember.

    We also have to decide what to do with the data. Is it "interesting", or is it useful in some way e.g. immunity passports. I imagine they don't want distractions at the moment as they try to scale up testing.
    Harris did mention that they would be producing a report, an evaluation of the possible options.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    wakka12 wrote: »
    So china literally admits the death toll until now in its epicentre was underrepresented by half . Unbelievable that WHO bare face lied to the world saying there's no reason to believe china lied about its figures and that they seemed legitimate

    And all the posters saying it was impossible for China to cover up tjodands of deaths in this day and age..if it smells like bull**** it's because it usually is!

    China are probably still lying about their figures, even with this change of their death toll. Doubtful we'll ever hear the true figures from them.

    WHO have lost credibilty because of their attitude towards China and the statements they've come out with since the initial outbreak was being reported in China.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    gilead drug trial looks like we found the cure!!!
    Ok, not quite, but very promising early data! Remdesivir was a big hope all along.
    https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/16/early-peek-at-data-on-gilead-coronavirus-drug-suggests-patients-are-responding-to-treatment/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    gilead drug trial looks like we found the cure!!!

    Well, some initial results are extremely encouraging...


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