Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

quokula · 16-04-2020 09:13PM

leavingirl wrote: »

Here you go Mr Moderator. From the horse's mouth. Btw I have no affiliation with this person. 189 Bulgarians arrived on a full flight. And I cannot go more than 2km from my house and I couldn't attend my relatives funeral.

If you get a job that involves supplying food for the country then you can freely travel more than 2km to do it.

woohoo!!! · 16-04-2020 09:13PM

Mr.S wrote: »

Back to the Facebook groups I think

You may want to revise that, it is accurate. I don't agree with the poster labelling the politicians as traitors. She is expressing understandable frustration at a family relative passing away.

Kermit.de.frog · 16-04-2020 09:14PM

LRNM wrote: »

Any other healthcare workers on here?

Depends.

We are all, in the main, professors of medicine and epidemiology on here.

jackboy · 16-04-2020 09:17PM

quokula wrote: »

If you get a job that involves supplying food for the country then you can freely travel more than 2km to do it.

In fairness flying those workers in with the current restrictions is absolutely ridiculous, especially with our current high unemployment rate. Allowing this to happen is taking the piss out of Irish people obeying the restrictions.

PokeHerKing · 16-04-2020 09:18PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Depends.

We are all, in the main, professors of medicine and epidemiology on here.

This is a house of learned doctors!!

Frank Bullitt · 16-04-2020 09:20PM

leavingirl wrote: »

There are plane loads of people arriving into Ireland every day and I was not allowd to attend an elderly relatives funeral.

Leo Varadkar - traitor
Simon Harris - traitor
Simon Coveny - traitor
And now Micheal Martin - traitor

I predict a mass protest on the streets soon.

You use the term "soon" loosely, I assume.

normanoffside · 16-04-2020 09:21PM

Anyone watching Prime time there?

The conclusion was that reported infections are vastly under reported.
80% of cases are Asymptomatic and most of the others are unreported.
The actual mortality rate is somewhere between 0.1%(best case scenario) and 0,5%(worst case scenario)

whisky_galore · 16-04-2020 09:22PM

jackboy wrote: »

In fairness flying those workers in with the current restrictions is absolutely ridiculous, especially with our current high unemployment rate. Allowing this to happen is taking the piss out of Irish people obeying the restrictions.

Would you pick fruit?

Quantum Erasure · 16-04-2020 09:23PM

plenty of people piling on that facebook post (2.3k comments, 6.5k shares) saying it's a disgrace, they'll never buy from that company again...

wonder would they pick the fruit?

quokula · 16-04-2020 09:24PM

jackboy wrote: »

In fairness flying those workers in with the current restrictions is absolutely ridiculous, especially with our current high unemployment rate. Allowing this to happen is taking the piss out of Irish people obeying the restrictions.

It’s really not, if the food supply collapses that would be utterly catastrophic. Just because there are unemployed people doesn’t mean they can all do this work effectively without any training from experienced workers. Nobody from Bulgaria is materially more likely to be carrying the virus than someone from Ireland, and they will be following all the same rules as everyone else.

peasant · 16-04-2020 09:24PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Depends.

We are all, in the main, professors of medicine and epidemiology on here.

Except for you Kermit ...your real name is Smilla, you're only responsible for snow on here

whisky_galore · 16-04-2020 09:24PM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

plenty of people piling on that facebook post (2.3k comments, 6.5k shares) saying it's a disgrace, they'll never buy from that company again...

wonder would they pick the fruit?

They would like fook.

Woodsie1 · 16-04-2020 09:24PM

Maybe Keelings should pay a proper wage for fruit picking then more people would be likely to do it.

jackboy · 16-04-2020 09:25PM

whisky_galore wrote: »

Would you pick fruit?

Ridiculous deflection.

whisky_galore · 16-04-2020 09:26PM

jackboy wrote: »

Ridiculous deflection.

Answer the question, would you?
You would in your bollox

RobertKK · 16-04-2020 09:27PM

They could have been in quarantine for 2 weeks before they flew.

tobefrank321 · 16-04-2020 09:27PM

Wombatman wrote: »

Anyone have a general idea what formula and parameter values get us an R value < 1?

Its measured roughly over a 2 week period, considered to be the infectious period. They likely take a day of the week or perhaps even an entire week to be more accurate, then look at two weeks forward of that. Total number of cases for week 3 divided by total number of cases for week 1 gives you the R0.

Thats a very rough description of what is more likely a more refined formula!

Cody montana · 16-04-2020 09:27PM

leavingirl wrote: »

Here you go Mr Moderator. From the horse's mouth. Btw I have no affiliation with this person. 189 Bulgarians arrived on a full flight. And I cannot go more than 2km from my house and I couldn't attend my relatives funeral.

I work in the food industry.
It’s deemed an essential industry and got a letter from work saying we can travel to and from work.
No restrictions on distance.

You don’t know what you’re on about.

LiquidZeb · 16-04-2020 09:27PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Depends.

We are all, in the main, professors of medicine and epidemiology on here.

Who also moonlight in global finance, air transport and sociology. Truly a talented bunch.

Maestro85 · 16-04-2020 09:28PM

Any predictions of what the easing of restrictions will mean for tourism and various sites like Blarney, Foto Wildlife etc...? Or put another way... how screwed is tourism in Ireland?

jackboy · 16-04-2020 09:29PM

quokula wrote: »

Nobody from Bulgaria is materially more likely to be carrying the virus than someone from Ireland, and they will be following all the same rules as everyone else.

In that case airports should be fully opened again as closing them makes no difference to the spread of the virus in Ireland.

If they arrived together in a plane they have already flaunted our rules. If one person in the plane had the virus now several may have it.

woohoo!!! · 16-04-2020 09:30PM

Mr.S wrote: »

Look at “her” post history, a definite troll.

As before - there are not planes full of people arriving into Dublin every day.

We knew that farms / growers would need to fly in workers, this was all over the press. I agree it’s a bit mad that we need to do that, but I suppose someone has to?

To say that this is happening every day, with full planes (plural) is not true.

I'm not aware of said posters history. I believe my previous post touched on the why for seasonal workers.

And the likes of gemma would not last a day on such a fruit farm.

People just need to step back, that's all I'm really saying

whisky_galore · 16-04-2020 09:30PM

Woodsie1 wrote: »

Maybe Keelings should pay a proper wage for fruit picking then more people would be likely to do it.

Would you pay a fair price for them in the shop?

briany · 16-04-2020 09:30PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Anyone watching Prime time there?

The conclusion was that reported infections are vastly under reported.
80% of cases are Asymptomatic and most of the others are unreported.
The actual mortality rate is somewhere between 0.1%(best case scenario) and 0,5%(worst case scenario)

80 percent of cases are asymptomatic? Actually, not really.

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/covid-19-what-proportion-are-asymptomatic/

In one sample, 80 percent were asymptomatic, but in another sample it was only 5 percent. Percentages are all over the place depending on your sample. I think it's fairer to say that in a virus as new as this, we can say with absolutely no confidence just how many people will display no symptoms.

jackboy · 16-04-2020 09:32PM

whisky_galore wrote: »

Answer the question, would you?
You would in your bollox

Wow, making a personal judgement about a stranger on the internet.

yerwanthere123 · 16-04-2020 09:32PM

leavingirl wrote: »

There are plane loads of people arriving into Ireland every day and I was not allowd to attend an elderly relatives funeral.

Leo Varadkar - traitor
Simon Harris - traitor
Simon Coveny - traitor
And now Micheal Martin - traitor

I predict a mass protest on the streets soon.

Hey Gemma.

owlbethere · 16-04-2020 09:33PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Anyone watching Prime time there?

The conclusion was that reported infections are vastly under reported.
80% of cases are Asymptomatic and most of the others are unreported.
The actual mortality rate is somewhere between 0.1%(best case scenario) and 0,5%(worst case scenario)

I watched it and I don't know what to make of it. Basically the lad on the video call, who is he? He was saying we should release the lockdown and let the virus run through the population. He was talking the economy.

I understand the importance of the economy, I really do. Without a good economy, we're fcuked. Let the virus run through the population and we will probably still be fcuked. What the lad on the video call, failed to mention was how companies will continue to operate when a large portion of the population is out sick. Not only will people be dealing with sickness, there will be deaths of family too.

woohoo!!! · 16-04-2020 09:33PM

To be clear, a lot of the stuff you buy in the supermarket or purchase from the likes of Amazon, are from the toils of migrants.

quokula · 16-04-2020 09:33PM

jackboy wrote: »

In that case airports should be fully opened again as closing them makes no difference to the spread of the virus in Ireland.

If they arrived together in a plane they have already flaunted our rules. If one person in the plane had the virus now several may have it.

I’ll say it again. Lockdown rules don’t apply to people working in food supply. This applies to buses as much as planes. There is nothing wrong with essential workers arriving in the airport just like there’s nothing wrong with staff turning up at SuperValu every morning. That doesn’t mean everybody else should be out and about just like the straw man you brought up.

whisky_galore · 16-04-2020 09:33PM

jackboy wrote: »

Wow, making a personal judgement about a stranger on the internet.

Wow, not answering the question. Yes or fcuking no?

Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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