Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

Mic 1972 · 16-04-2020 06:33PM

fullstop wrote: »

Your figures are incorrect.

I amended it, it''s 43 not 53
but it's still an increase

polesheep · 16-04-2020 06:33PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

There was only 8 today? so who were the others?

As I pointed out earlier, many people from nursing homes are taken into hospital.
Whatever are you going to do when this is all over? You'll be distraught.

Itssoeasy · 16-04-2020 06:34PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Did George just insinuate that the HSE are trying to kill elderly people?

I much as I don't like him even I wouldn't say he'd say that.

caveat emptor · 16-04-2020 06:34PM

Not just lungs.

https://twitter.com/drericding/status/1250438307047038979?s=21

stephenjmcd · 16-04-2020 06:35PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

You are correct it's 43, my bad
but it's still an increase. In fact this is now our new peak

Mon = 14
Tue = 41
Wed = 38
Today = 43

They've even said in the press conference death rates take longer to change. You can't work off the death rate. Look at Italy, it takes much longer for the death rate to change. These are people who have been quite sick for a long period of time

16-04-2020 06:35PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

Given the nature of nursing homes, how would they successfully beat it?

Whatever about beating it,i know several local people (and few in other counties),who have taken parent,grand parents and elderly relatives out of nursing/care homes

Given people dying in droves in nursing homes,who can argue with em

fritzelly · 16-04-2020 06:35PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Deaths in the last few days

Mon = 14
Tue = 41
Wed = 38
Today = 43

I'm seeing an increase here

Monday was not 14 either - just delete you post and start again

tayto lover · 16-04-2020 06:35PM

God Bless all the HSE, Care Home and Nursing Home staff as many of them now have the virus. Prayers and thoughts are with them.

walshb · 16-04-2020 06:35PM

So what were the riveting and insightful journalist questions today?

stephenjmcd · 16-04-2020 06:36PM

Geroge lee asking some stupid questions here.

is_that_so · 16-04-2020 06:36PM

walshb wrote: »

So what were the riveting and insightful journalist questions today?

Are you killing people in nursing homes?

Kermit.de.frog · 16-04-2020 06:36PM

polesheep wrote: »

Strip out the nursing home deaths and there is no reason why 5th of May is not still feasible.

What happens in your scenario when the virus is out of control again within weeks as has been pointed out at the press conference?

Everything gets shut down again in short order.

'Normality' is not returning on May 5th. Pubs are not going to open, people won't be on holidays abroad.

They could try opening construction and other niches, see how it works, but when cases spike restrictions are reimposed.

Seems to me this is our new reality unfortunately until a vaccine.

is_that_so · 16-04-2020 06:38PM

Ah, 24 hour turnaround guidance from WHO.

Mic 1972 · 16-04-2020 06:38PM

After today's update Ireland is now one spot behind Italy for total number of cases per million

Italy = 2,794
Ireland = 2,688

Alf Veedersane · 16-04-2020 06:39PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

You are correct it's 43, my bad
but it's still an increase. In fact this is now our new peak

Mon = 14
Tue = 41
Wed = 38
Today = 43

Presented like that it looks a larger increase than it was. The average for the 5 days before that was 29.
There were 36 the 7th of April. It may be increasing but not as quickly as it looks if you start with an outlier at the low end

Ace2007 · 16-04-2020 06:39PM

polesheep wrote: »

Staff come and go in the hospitals and they manage to contain spread. The staff in the nursing homes are the real heroes in this pandemic. They're like soldiers sent into war without ammunition or even basic training. They need urgent support from the highly trained hospital staff.

They manage to contain the spread to the hospitals, isn't there like 150 new cases a day just from healthcare workers?

Containing it and eradicating are two very different things. With nursing homes you want to get the virus out all together.

Sober Crappy Chemis · 16-04-2020 06:39PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

After today's update Ireland is now one spot behind Italy for total number of cases per million

Italy = 2,794
Ireland = 2,688

Go out for a walk man.

ihdxwz4a3pem9j · 16-04-2020 06:39PM

walshb wrote: »

So what were the riveting and insightful journalist questions today?

On Pat Kenny, there was a professor from TCD taking about public health matters. He has zero clinical credentials (in the sense that he has no training to be a clinician or in public health). All his research is lab-based research. I find that everybody is now an expert on the subject.

16-04-2020 06:40PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The residential care aspect of this is going to be the "big fail" of this.

you better believe it. I posted earlier in this thread- distant relative in a nursing home in the east of the country- 7 deaths (at least) recorded on rip.ie within a 10 day period in that specific home.

to put that in perspective, there was an average of 34% death rate in nursing homes over the course of a year in a study from 2009.

So over the course of 1 year, 34 people die out of every 100.

Mic 1972 · 16-04-2020 06:40PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Monday was not 14 either - just delete you post and start again

source = worldometer

owlbethere · 16-04-2020 06:41PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

I'd add in the loss of shopping and the general consumerist society we've become isn't a bad thing either.

For sure. The past few weeks has thought me, we're living in a world where we are hardly allowed to be sick. We're living in a world where we're hardly allowed to be sick. Look at all the posts saying get the people back to work now. Open the economy. Get them back working for the economy and the economy is important for sure but how are businesses supposed to survive with large parts of the workforce out sick?

Arghus · 16-04-2020 06:41PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

After today's update Ireland is now one spot behind Italy for total number of cases per million

Italy = 2,794
Ireland = 2,688

It's a bit redundant to compare cases like that, every country tests at different rates. Some only test those that come into hospital, others test suspected cases as well.

Jim_Hodge · 16-04-2020 06:42PM

walshb wrote: »

So what were the riveting and insightful journalist questions today?

Did you not watch it?

expectationlost · 16-04-2020 06:42PM

71 in citywest according the george lee

bekker · 16-04-2020 06:43PM

While these figures include all deaths notified by HSE they don't comprise all deaths from COVID-19.

DaveCliftonAP · 16-04-2020 06:43PM

Arghus wrote: »

It's a bit redundant to compare cases like that, every country tests at different rates. Some only test those that come into hospital, others test suspected cases as well.

I imagine he already knows this but it doesn't suit his narrative.

polesheep · 16-04-2020 06:44PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

What happens in your scenario when the virus is out of control again within weeks as has been pointed out at the press conference?

Everything gets shut down again in short order.

'Normality' is not returning on May 5th. Pubs are not going to open, people won't be on holidays abroad.

They could try opening construction and other niches, see how it works, but when cases spike restrictions are reimposed.

Seems to me this is our new reality unfortunately until a vaccine.

I never mentioned normality. The Taoiseach is planning for an easement of restrictions on My 5th (all going well).

fritzelly · 16-04-2020 06:44PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

source = worldometer

That was Sunday

jobeenfitz · 16-04-2020 06:45PM

Its sad when people we love die.
I know there are lots of people in nursing homes who are reasonably healthy and have a decent quality of life.

Some people in nursing homes are incontinent and/or have some type of dimentia.

I, like millions of others have often pondered what I would like to happen to me if I was in a home, basically just a shell of myself.

If this was the case I think this virus would be a godsend for me. I know my adult children and my grandkids would be sad but they know how I feel and may be able to feel some comfort for me also.

So a certain percent of deaths in nursing homes could be seen as a kind act of fate, or God if your a believer?

Im not saying the virus is good or old people dying is good. I'm saying this is how I would want it if it was me and I'm sure some of the people who died would have felt this way too.

Im almost afraid to post this because I'm sure there is many posters scanning for posts like this just to declare their outrage.

16-04-2020 06:46PM

Jesus, there are so many people on here who seem to be loving this. Looking for everything that they can spin as a disaster, and shouting it as loud as they can

They’re welcome to this space. I’m out. Don’t want to be sharing the same board as people who’s objective seeks to be to drag everyone down into the misery that they seem to relish inhabiting

Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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