Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

Ace2007 · 16-04-2020 04:54PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

Yep. And the daughter told me they were having picnics at the foot of the Rock of Cashel last weekend.

Hope you told her to cop on?

16-04-2020 04:54PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

The next of Kin would/should be made aware of the situation in the nursing home at anyone time.

So, just FYI, no they definitely are not stating anything about the virus to next of kin- the next of kin is elderly too- but I believe there's no onus on the nursing home to tell people that the virus is within the building (but quite happy to be corrected if I'm wrong here)- at least none that i know of- obviously if the client does get covid-19, then yes, next of kin will be informed.

hotmail.com · 16-04-2020 04:55PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Allegedly! Where are the pics?

Go to your local park and see.

coastwatch · 16-04-2020 04:57PM

Iamabeliever wrote: »

No true, they know what the people want!

Yes, all of this to end.
So do we all.

podgeandrodge · 16-04-2020 04:57PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

...
There is a green in front of my house, some neighbors are having a chat right now...

Jesus H Christ. Whatever next :eek:

Fann Linn · 16-04-2020 04:58PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

Hope you told her to cop on?

She was on her way home from work and saw them there.

Ace2007 · 16-04-2020 04:59PM

Deleted User wrote: »

So, just FYI, no they definitely are not stating anything about the virus to next of kin- the next of kin is elderly too- but I believe there's no onus on the nursing home to tell people that the virus is within the building (but quite happy to be corrected if I'm wrong here)- at least none that i know of- obviously if the client does get covid-19, then yes, next of kin will be informed.

I would still think if next of kin asked the question, the nursing home would have to tell them if any resident had the virus - purely on the basis that no resident is a prisoner, and if they knew they may have the option of moving out.

I was basing my original comment on a private nursing homes communication and assumed it was standard practice as why would they bother telling people otherwise.

is_that_so · 16-04-2020 04:59PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Go to your local park and see.

No need to as it's beside the Garda station. Don't imagine what annoys you is widespread. To quote the CMO again, it's most people doing most things most of the time.

Martina1991 · 16-04-2020 05:02PM

owlbethere wrote: »

What's the story about contact tracing? Has it failed here in Ireland? I know someone who had to go to hospital 2 weeks ago. The person is now sick, waiting on a test. Not once was she called and notified and asked to isolate in case she was infected.

Contact tracing is performed on positive cases and contacts of known positive cases.
If they're still waiting on a test why would they be contacted when their status is unknown

Hobgoblin11 · 16-04-2020 05:02PM

I went out for a 5k cycle yesterday there were teenagers everywhere out breaking the curfew

is_that_so · 16-04-2020 05:03PM

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

I went out for a 5k cycle yesterday there were teenagers everywhere out breaking the curfew

What did you see again?

Red for Danger · 16-04-2020 05:03PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Well, restrictions are still in place and will be till 5th May. Numbers going into hospital and ICU are stable, a key factor, testing system aiming to get to 48 hour turnaround and go back to the looser case definition. Meanwhile planning underway to decide how to get out of this, hopefully from the 5th May. And it's another lovely day!

Yeah maybe we're doing the right thing or maybe not, maybe just exhausting ourselves and money before the race has begun.
Hard to say!don't think anyone knows.
In 8 weeks or 7 years time we'll look back and it might appear as if some countries were spot on in their approach or it might be obvious they were luckiest or everyone might end up in the exact same boat.
Who knows!

Ace2007 · 16-04-2020 05:04PM

is_that_so wrote: »

What did you see again?

you know it's 2km radius??

16-04-2020 05:04PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Go to your local park and see.

Everyone is pretty much 2 metres apart in mine. It might look busy, but when you look closer you see that social distancing is being observed

is_that_so · 16-04-2020 05:04PM

Red for Danger wrote: »

Yeah maybe we're doing the right thing or maybe not, maybe just exhausting ourselves and money before the race has begun.
Hard to say!don't think anyone knows.
In 8 weeks or 7 years time we'll look back and it might appear as if some countries were spot on in their approach or it might be obvious they were luckiest or everyone might end up in the exact same boat.
Who knows!

Stay positive!:)

podgeandrodge · 16-04-2020 05:05PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

There has been nothing close to a lockdown in Ireland and people are crying about loosing their minds.

That would be because of the memos you mentioned about the "community spread being huge"...

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Just heard there is new memos going around in the HSE today the community spread is huge and the restrictions aren't working.

They are calling vulnerable people who aren't over 70 encouraging them to cocoon.

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Unfortunately it appears to be true. I found the memo floating around myself. :eek:;)

hotmail.com · 16-04-2020 05:06PM

is_that_so wrote: »

No need to as it's beside the Garda station. Don't imagine what annoys you is widespread. To quote the CMO again, it's most people doing most things most of the time.

Oh did it come across as if I was annoyed?

I was replying to someone saying this is a lockdown. I pointed out that local parks are packed.

It's not a lockdown.

is_that_so · 16-04-2020 05:06PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

you know it's 2km radius??

Yeah, I am more amused at the distance cycled and how the outraged poster was also "breaking the curfew".

hotmail.com · 16-04-2020 05:06PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Everyone is pretty much 2 metres apart in mine. It might look busy, but when you look closer you see that social distancing is being observed

Why are people calling it a lockdown then?

is_that_so · 16-04-2020 05:06PM

Positive George out today in spots!:D

wakka12 · 16-04-2020 05:06PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Allegedly! Where are the pics?

I would be shocked if your local park is not very busy,honestly. Im not one to make a big fuss of this as I think most people generally keep distance and even at that a few extra infections isnt going to make much of a difference in the grand scheme of things but my two local parks which I passed through today were the absolute busiest I've ever seen them in my life

Agent Coulson · 16-04-2020 05:06PM

Simon Harris getting grayer by the day.

The stress on all front line workers dealing first hand with Covid-19 will haunt the world for a generation.

stephenjmcd · 16-04-2020 05:07PM

wadacrack wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MKWilliamsRome/status/1250820527503151105

No wonder more cases picked up. They had been testing 50k a day previously. 70k today. So 20k more for about 2k more cases

hotmail.com · 16-04-2020 05:07PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Simon Harris getting grayer by the day.

The stress on all front line workers dealing first hand with Covid-19 will haunt the world for a generation.

Yes he's completely out of his depth

Jim_Hodge · 16-04-2020 05:08PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Why are people calling it a lockdown then?

Because they're wrong. It isn't a lockdown and was never supposed to be.

Paddygreen · 16-04-2020 05:08PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Madness. Mark my words restrictions aren't going anywhere and will need to be properly enforced.

On the spot fines for first time offenders. Electronic tagging for repeat offenders. Tazer for anyone who diaobeys or doesn't comply immediately with law enforcement. The possibility of detention/internment camps for repeat offenders should also be explored. There are several possibilities that could be used for such a purpose, the marts are closed for example and could quickly be turned into secure detention facilities.

Agent Coulson · 16-04-2020 05:08PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Yes he's completely out of his depth

Everyone in to world is out of their depth.

Iamabeliever · 16-04-2020 05:09PM

Cycling - unnecessary evil?
Don't see the point in putting yourself at risk
Seems only logical to ban it

16-04-2020 05:10PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

I would still think if next of kin asked the question, the nursing home would have to tell them if any resident had the virus - purely on the basis that no resident is a prisoner, and if they knew they may have the option of moving out.

I was basing my original comment on a private nursing homes communication and assumed it was standard practice as why would they bother telling people otherwise.

You've raised a good point Ace2007.

In my particular case, I think the elderly next of kin (spouse) is probably better off not knowing this information- it would just be too stressful. I'm pretty certain they haven't asked the question or at least I'm pretty certain the nursing home (which is private) hasn't said anything to him on covid-19 being present there in the home. I imagine they wish to limit panic and anxiety to relatives.

I actually don't know what the best practice is here in this situation- tell all next of kin many patients have died due to covid and others are affected or only communicate with those relatives who have patients/clients affected by the illness? Wouldn't mind a definitive answer if anyone out there has this knowledge and works in the industry.

statto25 · 16-04-2020 05:10PM

quokula wrote: »

Other illnesses still exist. People still get the flu. Being sick doesn't automatically mean you must have this particular virus.

You don't say. My point is these tests took over 2 weeks for results to come back. One of these people visited hospital with the symptoms as they already have a serious medical condition and were very worried. A nurse and doctor told them they were sure they had it bit obviously couldn't confirm until the test came back.

Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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