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Covid19 Part XV - 15,251 in ROI (610 deaths) 2,645 in NI (194 deaths) (19/04) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 464 ✭✭Iamabeliever


    statto25 wrote: »
    I totally agree which leads me to ask why were they tested then? Are we purposely keeping the numbers low so as to maintain calm with the restrictions in place? If the numbers were way higher which I believe they are, would the adherence to the rules be so successful?

    Ignorance is blind


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Lockdown in the UK extended until at least May 7th


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Another jump in Italy :( 3,786 new cases and 525 new deaths

    Might be the Easter holiday lag. Numbers had been a lot lower recently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,865 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Reminder we'll be seeing the new and updated modelling from Prof. Phillip Nolan at the 6:30 briefing. Worth tuning in.


  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Contained for now at least - that number could rise again if the easing of lockdowns in stages happens too quickly.

    My view - 2 weeks of R0 below 1 and two further weeks to confirm it is being maintained - in which case they should plan for light easing from the 11th of May


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    I don't think we are failing to isolate cases properly at all. The vast majority of people feeling ill are taking overt measures to isolate themselves in line with HSE guidance, there is a widespread attitude of presumptive positive. If we weren't, we wouldn't be seeing the R-0 stats of <1 we are seeing today.

    Also, the severe surge does not seem to have materialised, they are not having to use the Garda College, UL, Citywest etc it would seem.

    I'd say we have arrived in a far better place thus far, overall, than was feared.
    I think I saw a figure of 70 or so currently for Citywest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    Deaths in Welsh care homes more than double compared with the same month last year:

    https://nation.cymru/news/senedd-roundup-deaths-in-care-homes-in-wales-more-than-double-this-time-last-year/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    Another jump in Italy :( 3,786 new cases and 525 new deaths


    Italy one of the worst-hit countries during the coronavirus pandemic, have re-opened thousands of businesses this week, with millions of workers heading back to their job.
    Dont understand it myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    My view - 2 weeks of R0 below 1 and two further weeks to confirm it is being maintained - in which case they should plan for light easing from the 11th of May
    I think they'll go with the original May 5th once the testing system is up and running. Not much information to be had from one extra week.


  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Another jump in Italy :( 3,786 new cases and 525 new deaths

    look at the Italian data - they tend to get 3 low days followed by 4 high days, but the lower than the previous high days


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    road_high wrote: »
    Is there any evidence of it going away over summer months?
    Unknown but not something anyone is banking on, except Trump.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    I see the guards no longer have checkpoint set up in the city, why did it stop?

    https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webcam/ireland/leinster/dublin/dublin-o-connell-street.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    road_high wrote: »
    Is there any evidence of it going away over summer months?

    Theres no evidence but that doesnt mean its not possible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭1641


    silverharp wrote: »
    I see Belgium has the highest rate of deaths in the world 419 per million, do they have a nursing home problem?

    Belgium include care homes, etc. in their numbers , unlike many others (including neighbours Holland).


  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    is_that_so wrote: »
    I think they'll go with the original May 5th once the testing system is up and running. Not much information to be had from one extra week.

    Don't know what they will go with, but 4 weeks after dropping below 1 is two full incubation cycles, which to me makes sense


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    SCOOP 64 wrote: »
    Italy one of the worst-hit countries during the coronavirus pandemic, have re-opened thousands of businesses this week, with millions of workers heading back to their job.
    Dont understand it myself.


    3K cases for a 60 million people country is less in % than the daily increases we get here


  • Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    I see the guards no longer have checkpoint set up in the city, why did it stop?

    https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webcam/ireland/leinster/dublin/dublin-o-connell-street.html

    If checkpiont is always in the same place its kind of pointless


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,582 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Do not forget that testing is about 14 days behind infection, and death perhaps another 10 to twenty days behind infection.

    So, we are not quite into seeing the lockdown affecting infection, and a few weeks before the deaths start showing the effect of the lockdown.

    Let us hope that they begin to show soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Amusing seeing the "we must get the economy going but protect the vunerable" posts - do people realise how many vunerable people live with younger, healthier people? Let's be honest, it's just window dressing. Once our own house is in order, we don't give a stuff about the community at large - we want our "freedom" and right here right now wasteful economy back.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,349 ✭✭✭Wombatman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Don't know what they will go with, but 4 weeks after dropping below 1 is two full incubation cycles, which to me makes sense
    It's not just R0, the testing system is a big element of getting out of this. The problem of an extra week is the much greater risk of people just flouting it as a week just looks like a random number.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    That deal on the private hospital beds looking like a farce.

    https://twitter.com/paulmurphy_TD/status/1250816347115851778?s=20


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    https://www.jpost.com/health-science/israeli-scientists-in-three-weeks-we-will-have-coronavirus-vaccine-619101
    Israeli scientists: 'In a few weeks, we will have coronavirus vaccine'
    Once the vaccine is developed, it will take at least 90 days to complete the regulatory process and potentially more to enter the marketplace.
    “Let’s call it pure luck,” he said. “We decided to choose coronavirus as a model for our system just as a proof of concept for our technology.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,783 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8225759/Protesters-swarm-Michigan-North-Carolina-Ohio-Utah-Wyoming-demonstrate-lockdown-orders.html

    Could gather traction. This is what Trump is speaking of when he claims people want to open up, they want to go back to normal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭Red for Danger


    Does anyone really know what the **** is going on or what to do...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Wombatman wrote: »
    Maybe we are seeing the "“behavioural fatigue” the British predicted?
    I don't think we are too far off it. We can probably do the 18 more days but beyond that we need to see something happen.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    Does anyone really know what the **** is going on or what to do...

    I think we're all what the f-k'g right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Six funerals per hour at some churches and cemeteries in Madrid
    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-between-30-and-50-funerals-a-day-being-held-at-spanish-church-11974190
    "It is worse than a war" - that's how families burying their dead in Spain's worst hit region are describing the impact of the coronavirus.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    There is no reason for a couple or a family of 3 to go shopping together. Nobody enjoys the lockdown, we are following specific rules for our own safety not for fun

    Yes there is. Primary carers without anyone to step in and mind their loved one is a good reason why they both might have to go.

    It's no liner this thing. The rules need to be flexible to allow people to continue to function while at home. Again your another one who comes on here spouting nonsense about people not isolating etc but give no solutions to issues I have highlighted above.


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